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Dominion => Dominion Online Championship 2022 => 2017 Championship (archived) => Topic started by: jeebus on 14 September 2017, 05:29:57 PM

Title: Explain brackets to me please
Post by: jeebus on 14 September 2017, 05:29:57 PM
I don't known nothin' about this kind of tournament structure. I understand the elimination part: If you lose a match, you're out of the tournament. It's the seeding I don't understand I guess.

"All players will be seeded based on the 2 Player Shuffle iT leaderboard."

Does this mean that my first match will be against somebody on my level? So high-level players will never play against low-level players?

"If the first round does not have a full bracket (e.g. exactly 256 or 512 players) the highest seeded players will receive byes in the first round 1, with a full bracket beginning in the second round."

What are "highest seeded players"? A bye in this case is an automatic win?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Explain brackets to me please
Post by: amoffett11 on 14 September 2017, 06:12:27 PM
Does this mean that my first match will be against somebody on my level? So high-level players will never play against low-level players?

It's actually the opposite of that, to start with the highest player will play the lowest ranked player, the 2nd highest the 2nd lowest, and so on.  The bracket is structured in such a way that this trend will continue after every round (but only assuming the higher ranked player wins every time).  Here's what a bracket with 8 players looks like:

1
8
           1
4         5
5                     1
                       3           1
2
7         3
           7
3
6

In this example, even though #7 upset #2 and was the lowest seed, the #1 seed still plays the winner of 4/5. 

So imagine a bracket like this but on a much larger scale, with 256 players the #1 seed will face the #256 seed in the first round, and so on.  In the next round #1 will face the winner of 128/129 (if #1 wins, otherwise #256 will face the winner of 128/129).


For brackets to work you need to have a Power of 2 (2,4,8 and so on); when you don't have that you have byes. X highest ranked players will have byes, the other players will have a match to decide who ends up in the bracket of 256.  Once there's 256 players the bracket will continue as normal. 

How many players get a bye?

Right now there's 367 players.  This needs to narrow down to 256 players.  So we need to "cut" 111 players.  So the lowest 222 players will play each other, and so the remaining 145 players will get a bye.  For that first round, #146 will play #367, #147 will play #366, and so on.  As more players sign up less players will get byes, until we get to 512 and then no one gets a bye again.
Title: Re: Explain brackets to me please
Post by: Diedre on 14 September 2017, 07:51:48 PM
Nice explanation amoffett!
I was also wondering how those brackets will work. Thanks!
Title: Re: Explain brackets to me please
Post by: Cave-O-Sapien on 14 September 2017, 10:48:03 PM
Is there re-seeding between rounds?
Title: Re: Explain brackets to me please
Post by: drsteelhammer on 14 September 2017, 11:02:25 PM
Quote from: Cave-O-Sapien on 14 September 2017, 10:48:03 PM
Is there re-seeding between rounds?

no
Title: Re: Explain brackets to me please
Post by: Emeric on 15 September 2017, 07:17:39 AM
it's like a "grans slam" tennis tournament ;)
Title: Re: Explain brackets to me please
Post by: jeebus on 15 September 2017, 04:17:43 PM
Thanks for the explanation!
Title: Re: Explain brackets to me please
Post by: nholden212 on 16 September 2017, 04:42:52 PM
When will the brackets be posted?