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Title: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Stef on 09 January 2018, 10:33:57 AM
(link to Japanese (http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2758.0))
(here (http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2759.0) is a list of extended subscriptions, which I will update every couple of days)

One day people bought Dominion from MF thinking they'd have it forever.
This turned out not to be true, and although I didn't think this was my fault in any way, unhappy Dominion players still made me feel bad.

Our idea was to compensate these users by giving them a choice between a year of online or the promised offline version. However, we failed to deliver an offline version until now, so this idea didn't fully work out.

I still really want an offline version, and when we get there the old MF owners will still get it for free. But this product does not make sense if we don't add campaigns first, and they don't make sense if we don't add a proper AI first. All in all it is much more work then I originally had hoped, and I now expect this to arrive in the fall of 2018.

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I've come to the following decision: If you are one of the people for whom "free 2017" just ended, I am willing to extend it with another half a year in exchange for one hour of your time. The short version is "provide feedback and don't forget to include your username". Longer version below. The offer stands for anyone replying in this thread in the next 10 days and is only about expansions you once bought from MF. If you already bought a subscription for (a part of) 2018, I will extend it with half a year for the appropriate expansions.

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Here are some guidelines on the kind of feedback I'm looking for:
 1. Try to keep it short & concise
 2. Try to describe your own personal wishes, not what you think is best for others.
 3. Please make actual points in these posts (instead of refering to earlier posts making points)

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Ingix on 09 January 2018, 11:19:32 AM
Wer lieber in Deutsch antworten möchte, soll das bitte tun. Ich werde dann die entsprechenden Postings um die englische Übersetzung ergänzen.

(German users can respond in German, I'll translate their feedback)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: RTT on 09 January 2018, 12:30:19 PM
Hi Stef,

I really enjoy Dominion Online lately and I think it has improved a lot already in the last year. New features I would like the most are:
- Android App or improved playability on mobile.
- The X card banlist (but i think thats in the works already)
- having a featured game to spectate (e.g. two high rank players, a game played in tournament mode)
- I dont know if im alone with that but the blue color on the automatch screen (15 searching) on the dark background is hurting my eyes and really hard to see.


OK so here are my personal thoughts on your list first:


1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots /
   
I dont really need an offline client because when im on a PC im online anyway most of the time. More usefull
would be a App for phones for me personaly. And yeah as you say offline play only is fun with a at least decent
AI. Campaigns or andy PVE content really is a nice way to get new players into the game i feel. My wife would probably love that.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

If thet means i can set the bot to only play Big Money or only Engines i dont think this is really needed. Though different difficulty settings are nice.

3. A strong bot.

The Bot doesnt have to be really strong as I can just play humans instead but it should be decent and not completly fail on certain cards (counterfeit, bandit fort, ...)

4. Options for timed games

Would be very nice to have possibly with its own ladder or for mini tournaments. Not really needed though.

5. Options for undo settings

I dont need those but i guess it would be nice to filter out no info undo deniers

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

That would be a fun addition. swiss style would be cool because from Single elimination some players only get one game. I imagine when your game is dont and the other players arent you are able to spectate those games. For Player count I think it will mostly be used from 4-8 Players but if its not too much effort it could be expanded to more even.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes I would use that for tournament matches or games with my wife. More important is a tournament mode (no spec chat, alternating starting players, tracking the score)

8. More translations (to what language?)

Not needed for me
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

This is especially interesting for playing with casual friends but the game already runs slow on my wifes netbook and im afraid more animations are even making the performance worse.

I honestly think sound effects other then the bing would be cool.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

    Yes that is needed in my opinion.

10. Option to hide the log

    I will never hide the log.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

    Yes i would defenitly use my Phone if its decent to play on.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

    I dont have an Iphone, so no

13. Downloadable game logs

    Very important! if that means the comunity can finally extract stats like councilroom again.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

For me its fine as it is but i think the lower ranks could benefit from that.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Yes that is a must in my opinion. Pretty hard to show the game to friends without beeing in direct contact and explaining it at the moment.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I dont really get the difference to 15. but If the usability of the Site is good (no log clicking, etc..) then that is not really needed.

My username i RTT if you couldnt guess :)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Seprix on 09 January 2018, 01:54:38 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I don't care about this in the slightest. Others do, but I do not.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles


If this is the only way to make the most competitive Dominion Bot, then yes.

3. A strong bot.

There was talk about giving users the API so they could write their own bots. Is this still on the table?

4. Options for timed games

Blitz mode would be fantastic.

 5. Options for undo settings


Convenient, not super high on my priorities.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.


Hey, this is a neat idea. Yeah, put it closer towards the top.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table


As long as it isn't obnoxious and pops up on the corner rather than up front where someone might click on it by accident.

 8. More translations (to what language?)


Don't have the knowledge to answer this one with any authority.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

The biggest priority besides maybe AI. If the game looks great, more people will come.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Right below AI as very important and probably a lot easier to do than AI, so heck I'd do this before the AI anyways. Also very important.

10. Option to hide the log

Only when the game can be played entirely without the log. There should be an icon when chat goes off of course, and I will be using the log anyways because I like the log.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)


Don't really care.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Care mildly.

13. Downloadable game logs

Let's throw in a better game replay interface with this too. I would love to be able to visually scroll through the game with a bar with the animations flying around as fast as I scroll it, with each beginning of Turn marked with a colored bar signifying who was which player. I could stop somewhere at any point, play from there with a bot (maybe another user is an option but this isn't as important) or maybe with myself. This is very important to me. I would love to have this option to analyze matches while streaming/recording, or for personal viewing. I would love to try out alternate strategies at a certain point instead of straight up from the beginning.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)


I never run into these problems, and it seems to be almost entirely on the lower levels.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Important for new players, I think.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Mainly going through the stuff that isn't instantly obvious, like how autoplay works and the chat commands.

A couple things I would add: Making sure the system can never be gamed. People have been playing fixed boards with certain cards on a table with the rating on, and have gotten into the Top 10 in this fashion. Could you make it possible to never be able to have rating on if there is more than a single card as a required card? The single card isn't an offender, it would be more than a single card. I would say never make rated matches possible at all on a created table but that leads to annoying complications.

Avatars: Yeah it's one more thing to moderate, but I would love to have an avatar I could upload. Maybe this is a safety thing with parents and kids, so maybe you can turn this feature off with parental mode.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Nidoking on 09 January 2018, 02:57:24 PM
I didn't buy any of the old expansions, but I was advised to provide feedback anyway. For no reward, here are my thoughts:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would definitely check this out, depending on the cost. I'm not currently lacking real people to play against, but it would be neat to have a mode with goals and rewards.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot.


I'm not personally concerned about bots, but a range of difficulty settings for the offline client would be a plus.

4. Options for timed games

Not likely something I'd use. I tend to play more casually and let the games take as long as they take. I assume this is timed chess-style, where each move is on a timer, as opposed to setting a time limit for the whole game, which selects against some long-term strategies.

5. Options for undo settings

This would be wonderful, particularly an option to choose a step in the log and undo to that decision.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I might use this if it's implemented, but I wouldn't miss it if it's not.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

More friend functionality in general would be nice, and this seems to fit into that category. I generally organize games on Discord and then set up the table, so this is not something I would require, but it could make things a bit easier. (My friends wouldn't have to find my table before a random squatter pops in, so less kicking.)

8. More translations (to what language?)

I don't have a specific need for translations.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I'm not too fussed about the aesthetics, but certain things happen very quickly and it's not always as convenient to consult the log to see what's happened. Animations that take the time to show what cards are moving where would be a big plus.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

This would be amazing.

10. Option to hide the log

I always keep the log up because it's necessary to follow what's happening, and it's where the activation triggers for Reserve cards are. With animations that make it clearer what's happening and a different method for activating start-of-turn effects, this would be nice, but still not something I'd need.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I would download this, depending on the cost.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I don't have an iPhone.

13. Downloadable game logs

Yes please. I don't save game numbers because the ability to do anything with them is so limited.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I don't play with many people I don't already know, so I don't have a personal need for moderation. I think it's an essential element of any online community, though, so I support any kind of improvement to moderation.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I have my own method for teaching people to play, so I don't need a tutorial.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

A specific tutorial for DO features would be a good thing, but I think I've got a grasp of them now, and there is a FAQ.

As for specific features I'd request, I'd like the ability to specify the Boons for Druid and the point pile for Obelisk when manually setting up a kingdom with those cards. The pre-selected kingdoms in the manuals sometimes specify those, so it would help to be able to set that up myself. The ability to specify cards not to include in randomly-generated kingdoms (without having to exclude a complete set) would also be really nice, and please fix the issue where setting 0 Events/Landmarks as the maximum still adds one Event or Landmark most of the time.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Bbl on 09 January 2018, 03:05:27 PM
Thank you for the open communication. I would not need the extra half year of subscription to respond, but I appreciate the gesture. My username is TeDeO. I also want to point out that (despite some well-intended criticism below) I think you have done a great job over the last year. The client is in a good state right now, most major flaws have been addressed, Nocturne went over perfectly and communication has improved vastly since launch.

Regarding your list of suggestions:
Suggestion 1, 2, 3 have always been my core requests for a while now, so I would be extremely happy too see these features come to life. I am not sure if I would be able to beat a 'strong' bot at your skill level, so different types of bots would be a good starting point.

I assume suggestion 11 and 12 are what most people have in mind when they talk about an offline version. I personally do not need an offline version for my PC, but i need an app that I can play on my cellphone when being on long train rides or in areas with bad connectivity. In the meantime, better compatibility (display of menus mainly and the victory screen in particular) would definitely help.

I also want to stress out that I would be satisfied with offline matches against Bots without a fully-fledged campaign. A real campaign mode would be great too, but to me this can wait some while - classic Dominion with all expansions has enough exciting replayability. Maybe there could be some kind of smaller solo mode, where you play full-random dominion against one Bot type and if you have beaten him often enough, you unlock the next stronger bot.

Suggestion 10a, 10b and 13 are functional fixes to me, so these are no-brainers that should happen at some point soon.

Suggestion 15 and 16 are tricky, because noone that answers this post, will need tutorials for themselves. But like RTT, I hesitate to show the current Dominion Online to friends, because it is so clunky and nerdy. Dominion itself is complex enough to explain, it does not help if the interface gets in the way. The MF implementation was far easier to show to someone without any Dominion experience and their ingame tutorial did a good job teaching it, in my opinion. So yes, I would appreciate a clear and easy Tutorial within the actual game, so no Youtube video or text doc. (Not to mention that your business would benefit the most, if more new players would stick with your game).

Suggestion 10 has come a great way since the start of the new client, so I would not mind, if the animations remained at their current level. Suggestion 6 would be nice, but to me it is not really important.

I personally do not care about suggestion 4, 5, 7, 8, 14.

Not on this list, but something that I would love to see are Achievements. Maybe you would not even need the special solo mode, if there would be Achievements like 'Beat Banker Bot 50 times". You could start with these easier ones and then add more interesting puzzle style achievements, like 'Play a card in the same turn you gain it". While the solution might be easy for experienced players, it is a fun way to teach some of the more advanced tricks to newer players.

And could you please gain someone that pretties up your Main Menus? I know, they are functionally working (if you know what to do), but they still look like they came from an early Windows 95 games or from one of these game maker tools.
 
So my personal priority list in order of how I hope to see the features getting implemented:

1. Improved mobile compatibility (Reorder + Menus, mainly Victory screen)
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles (Suggestion 3)
3. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... (suggestion 10a)
4. Option to hide the log (Suggestion 10b)
5. An offline client [without campaigns] (Suggestion 1)
6. Achievements (not suggested)
7. Android (offline) app (Suggestion 11)
8. A strong bot (Suggestion 3)
9. Prettier interface (not suggested)
10. Tutorial on how to play Dominion (Suggestion 15+16)
11. Campaigns with Puzzles (Suggestion 1)
12. Option to invite specific players to your table (Suggestion 7)
13. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. (Suggestion 6)

Not important to me: Suggestion 4, 5, 7, 8, 14
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Awaclus on 09 January 2018, 03:32:34 PM
I have a couple of requests:

 - Sometimes when my opponent's name starts with a lower case a, I can't Ctrl+F the log so it would be nice if enough characters were shown from both player's names until they are unique, even to a non-case sensitive Ctrl+F.
 - An option to split the "buys and gains a Moat" lines in the log into "buys a Moat" and "gains a Moat"
 - Make an "invite" button for friends who are logged in but not in a game, similar to the current "join" button in the Matching tab so that you can start a game with your friend without having to kick a million randoms from your table while you're waiting for the friend to join it
 - I'm not sure if this has already been fixed, but sometimes, an opponent with a long name can cause the VP counter to become invisible. So, if that hasn't been fixed, it would be nice to get it fixed.

Here are my thoughts on the list:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
If it's going to be like the Goko/Making Fun campaigns in terms of quality, then I have no interest in it. If it's more like the Hearthstone solo adventures (i.e. actually fun and interesting even to an experienced player), then I could potentially like it, but it's a low priority thing for me.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I don't care about this.

3. A strong bot.
I would appreciate this. I don't play against the rat very often because of how incompetent it is.

4. Options for timed games
This sounds like it could be potentially super fun for tournaments and stuff, if it's like the blitz mode from the old Making Fun mod. If it's more like just an automatch setting to make sure your opponent isn't playing much slower than you are, then that would be useful for laddering too.

5. Options for undo settings
Regarding undo, I want to have all no-info undos granted automatically. Beyond that, I don't care what's in the settings.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
If there's a system for this which is similar to the current tables, i.e. you can easily join tournaments by randoms and randoms can join your tournament, that would be a feature I think I'd actually use sometimes. Also if it makes the tournament organizing easier than what tournament organizers are currently doing with e.g. Discord tournaments, then I'd probably benefit from the existence of the feature even when I'm not using it myself.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Oh, it was already on the list. Well, this is important.

8. More translations (to what language?)
I know people who would be a lot easier to talk into playing Dominion Online if it was available in Finnish. I might be able to help out with the translation myself, actually.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I think the current animations are sufficient and they are already slower than I would like at times. It would be best to allow users to customize this.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Not important to me.

10. Option to hide the log
Not important to me.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would download it, but probably wouldn't use very much.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not important to me.

13. Downloadable game logs
I assume this means someone could make something like Council Room again, in which case this is important.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I have been completely happy with the current level of moderation.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
If there was a tutorial that teaches strategy as well as rules, that would help with getting some of my IRL friends into Dominion.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I don't think this is necessary.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: tufftaeh on 09 January 2018, 03:33:04 PM
Most important for me would be a nice game replay functionality, allowing the user to browse forward and backward through a completed game.

A second requested festure not mentioned yet would be some kind of personal messaging to a player. It is especially important for an adressee who is not on a table, and it would be nice for a spectator as well (to avoid having to spam the chat on their table). In some cases, messaging a player currently playing would be useful as well, but I'm not sure if that should rather be disabled for tournament games.

Priority of the listed suggestions (top to bottom):

Really useful:
13. Downloadable game logs
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
 3. A strong bot.

Secondary:
 5. Options for undo settings
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 4. Options for timed games
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Completely irrelevant for me (but not for others who might be potential opponents):
 8. More translations (to what language?)
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: limetime on 09 January 2018, 04:12:33 PM
As I have not purchased for MF, I am ineligible for additional compensation. I also appreciate what you have done to dominion in the past year and am responding because I like what you have done and I want my opinion to be heard.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I might use it if it were free but it is not something I am super excited about.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would be interesting especially if there is an easy way to program play rules.

 3. A strong bot.
This is really important to me as right now playing the bot is basically playing solo.

 4. Options for timed games
I would enjoy this, I would also enjoy a blitz mode.

 5. Options for undo settings
Not super important to me(although something to prevent spamming the undo button is important)

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be nice but not super essential to me

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This again is a nice feature

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not important to me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not important to me(would not use)

10.A Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
This would be nice but I really don't care that much.

10. BOption to hide the log
Would not use

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Would not use

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Would use if it worked for Ipad

13. Downloadable game logs
Really Really Important as I believe it would lead to really cool statistics

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I haven't had a huge problem with other players and I think the current moderation is sufficient(at least for now)

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not important to me personally but it would be nice for introducing dominion to others.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think this can be incorporated into #15

My ranking of the features I care about (in order of most important to least important)

13.
3.
2.
6.
4.
7.
14.
12.
5.
15/16.
Don't really care about the rest.



Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: amoffett11 on 09 January 2018, 04:19:39 PM
Thanks for the offer of the 6 months free, but I don't need it.  Here's my feedback:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I enjoyed the old campaigns, so I would use this feature.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

This would be nice, but isn't as important as a stronger bot.  If a stronger bot is the only bot, that would be fine for me. 

3. A strong bot.

A stronger bot would be great.  The biggest issue with the current bot is that it traps itself on too-high a percentage of boards (the bot trashes itself down too far and falls into a loop).  It's hard to get an idea of how you're doing when the bot isn't able to play at least some kind of strategy. 

4. Options for timed games

This would be one of my top requests.  We like to call it "Blitz Mode" (basically a mode where you don't have long amounts of time to think, you just have to do), but any kind of setting that we can play around with on tables to alter the amount of time available would be great. 

5. Options for undo settings

This is not important to me, the current undo functionality is good enough for me. 

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I don't know how this would/could work, but it sounds great and would definitely be something I would use (the Dominion discord would probably love it)

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

This would be useful, but the current tables and friends/followers setup seems to work well enough too, so its not a high priority for me. 

8. More translations (to what language?)

This would be great I guess but it's not something that I need. 

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I've gotten used to playing without them, but it would be a nice addition.  Especially some of the autoplay decisions, if I'm not looking for it I can miss what happens.  Trashing with doctor (did I just reveal 3 coppers, or did I trash 3 estates?), Swindler with only 1 target to replace with, I would like some visual clue as to what happened. 

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Of these three, Archive/Crypt are the most important to me.  It's hard to plan for my next turn if I can't remember exactly what is in each Archive/Crypt.  Split piles and Prince I'm ok with. 

10. Option to hide the log

I like the log so I don't need to hide it. 

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

This is not something I would use. 

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

This is something I might use, but isn't important to me. 

13. Downloadable game logs

This would be great.  I think Scavenger was part of the way there, but I like to either see the log after the game, or at least be able to download it from somewhere.  Currently you can always reload an old game and take a look at the active log, but that tends to be too much of a hassle.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

This is not a problem I run into, and it seems like the current system is working ok.  Blacklisting is a nice feature, and it seems like the mods get around to banning the repeat offenders. 

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not something I need, and not something I think needs to be connected to the client.  There's lots of these out there already which users can find. 

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

This would be more useful than a Dominion tutorial, not something I need, but a short 10ish minute video walking through some of the basics (how to start a game, how to find a friend, how to make a table and get a friend there) and some of the features (setting up kingdoms, some more advanced settings, dealing with abusive players) would be a great step towards pointing people I know to the client.  Now I don't have to walk them through this stuff. 


If I was putting these in order:

Top - Strong Bot, Timed Games, Downloadable game logs, online tournaments

Middle - Offline mode (campaigns), Visualization for Archive/Crypt, different bot settings, better animations

Bottom - Dominion tutorial, iphone and android, hide the log, undo settings, invite players to your table, translations, improved moderation


It wasn't listed here, but I liked RTT's idea of a featured game; maybe not two high-ranked players (this might get old for them after awhile), but an option to toggle a table as a "tournament game", for the Dominion League or for other tournaments, would be great. 

Thanks for everything you do with this client, it's come a long way in Year One and I look forward to Year Two. 

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: allanfieldhouse on 09 January 2018, 04:48:47 PM
My feedback is grouped into 3 main areas.


Thank you for the free months and the update on your progress. I really appreciate any time you communicate out your status, plans, difficulties, etc. (even if it is "hidden" on a forum).
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: markus on 09 January 2018, 05:36:30 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
it would only be useful to me if it was available on Android for mobile use without internet connection.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I want the best possible bot, so a simple version of this is not important to me. The complex version would be something like "teaching" the bot: e.g. telling him how to open on a board and then he takes it from there in the best way.

3. A strong bot.
That would be nice, but only useful to me, if you get the bot to at least mu=1.5. If at some point computational effort becomes the limitation, I'd be willing to pay extra for games against a very good bot.

4. Options for timed games
Yes, I'd like to have quick games as an option.

5. Options for undo settings
I don't remember a situation, in which I didn't grant a reasonable undo and vice versa, so it's low on my priorities. You could have it as an advanced search option with yes/no/don't care and people who really don't like undos will have to wait longer to find a suitable match (similarly also adding the same for VP counter).
There are some cases now that require an undo even though nothing happened from an opponent's point of view. (e.g. selecting discard option with Hamlet before discarding). It would be nice to be able to simply undo those decisions.
I'm more skeptical about a general undo without new info as I don't want to see a back and forth in my opponent's turn / buy phase. If that becomes possible, I would only like to see the opponent's decisions that have been "locked in".

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not a high priority for me as the main problem in organizing a tournament is arranging opponents to be available at the same time. An option would be a quick tournament for people that state to be available for the next 2 hours or so, but I doubt that the player base is large enough for that.

Something that should be easy to implement is having a separate ladder for a group of friends: you specify the friends and a time horizon and a ranking is calculated using only rated games between those friends.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
nice to have but not a high priority

8. More translations (to what language?)
not needed

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yes, in particular for cards that reveal and discard cards (e.g. Hunting Party). There should be a speed option - for me it would be enough to briefly flash what was revealed.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
That's the most important point for me, in particular Archive and Crypt contents.

10. Option to hide the log
I don't care

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes, in particular with offline availability

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
no

13. Downloadable game logs
It would be really nice to be able to (automatically) analyze logs again.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I don't experience problems with my opponents.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
not necessary for me, but important for new players

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
not necessary for me, but important for new players
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: twasa on 09 January 2018, 05:51:08 PM
I also think the online client has improved much over the year.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I don't really care about offline play. I realize others may have good use for it though.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

If the bot had some API and a way to specify buy rules, this may be interesting.

3. A strong bot.

I think a bot which doesn't get trapped by some cards is fine.

4. Options for timed games

I would probably not use it often, but I can see the usefulness of such a variant.

5. Options for undo settings

I think undo in its current form is fine. I don't deny any undo as it is.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

This sounds like a good idea.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Especially if there is a way to message the player that the table has been created.

8. More translations (to what language?)

English is fine for me, even if not my first language.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...


I like that there are not that many animations, but sometimes one needs to look at the log to figure out what happened.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...


Archive perhaps especially, and maybe crypt. Prince is fine as it is.

10. Option to hide the log


If the log could be hidden, I won't.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)


Although I use an android phone, I would never use it to play Dominion.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)


I don't use iPhone.

13. Downloadable game logs


This or some way to "replay" a previous game as if it were a recording would be great.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)


I rarely have games with such problems, although they have happened. I think blacklisting is fine for the few times I felt the need not to play a player again.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion


Obviously meant for new players, but I'm not sure that it is needed on the online client.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.


I think this would be useful: auto buy, familiar cards, subscription etc are only relevant online.

In addition to the list:

(a) A featured game that has been suggested, could also be a featured game log. Especially if it could be replayed as the game was played.

(b) I like the idea of having an avatar, but maybe players could also have a profile with limited personal information that they may optionally provide. Perhaps things like country, time zone (in case one would like to play again in future) and language(s). Although this may just be things I'd be interested in.
 
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Zhuria on 09 January 2018, 06:28:16 PM
So I'm someone who bought expansions thinking they'd last forever, and didn't play the game for a long time. By the time I started playing, it had switched over to a subscription and my free year was gone (I literally started playing a week after it ended, so I got NO use out of that entire year. It went completely to waste.)

Considering that, I would definitely love an extra 6 months. My username is Zhuria

I'm also a casual and just learning to play better, so my main wishes are:

A) Save my bot table settings or let me change them BEFORE starting a bot game. Right now I have to start a bot game, resign, then I can lower the bot difficulty (I'm real bad)
B) Improved bot AI (they seem way too obsessed with chapels, for one!)

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would definitely use this as I'm only playing versus bots and the browser can get laggy. Furthermore, one with all the expansions, for a player like me, would be wonderful. I tend to only play things for short periods at a time before taking long breaks so subscriptions are very annoying for me.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Absolutely!

 3. A strong bot.
A strong bot would wipe the floor with me right now so I'm indifferent.

 4. Options for timed games
Not interested, I like to take my time. Already the games move quicker than I'd like, but that's the nature of the game itself.

 5. Options for undo settings
I'm not entirely sure what this would be but I can't see myself needing it.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I wouldn't use this in my current state of ability, but it does sound fun

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
That sounds extremely useful and like something I would use if/when I play versus players or with friends.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I'm find with just english.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I don't like that I almost always have to look at the log to figure out what just happened. I think there could be a short delay when opponents do things (i.e. when they buy something or play an action that affects me but requires no input from me, leave it on the screen for a moment longer so I have a chance to see it) - you could make up this time by having them play all their treasures at once instead of one at a time.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Not applicable as I haven't encountered these mechanics yet

10. Option to hide the log
Could be useful but I'm find without it since I rely quite a bit on the log to figure out what just happened..

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would use this.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I wouldn't use this.

13. Downloadable game logs
I wouldn't use this.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Not applicable as I have only played versus bots.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Would be very useful for newcomers but not for me as I had friends teach me. I do remember using it in the previous version of the online game, though. (I tried it briefly before putting it down for literally years)

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Would be useful. Had to press a few different buttons before I figured out how to magnify cards, for example. And it sounds like there are some more complex mechanics that I haven't tried yet that could be confusing.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: AdamH on 09 January 2018, 06:48:47 PM
I'm Adam Horton on the client.



1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would like this. I wouldn't really be into the campaigns but just the ability to play a specified kingdom against a bot would be very useful for me to do offline.
Particularly, I want to do playtesting for kingdoms I design for my IRL tournaments and it would be nice if I knew there was no online record of those games being played.
 
Personally, I don't think a campaign would be all that useful -- just the ability to play a recommended set by just selecting from a menu would be way better.


2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

The only setting for a specific play style that I would want is a bot that can play big money with one kingdom card, and is optimized for that. So I could tell the Fun Police Bot to find the best single-card big money enabler on a given board and play an optimized strat for that.

Aside from that, easy/medium/hard might be useful but I would say only if it's very easy to code.


3. A strong bot.

I would like for a strong bot to exist, but I don't think it's a reasonable thing to ask. I think this is difficult enough that it will take so long to do; and there's enough other stuff on the client that needs work that this should be the lowest priority.


4. Options for timed games

I wouldn't use this.


5. Options for undo settings

I would like a setting (similar to the game-specific autoplay setting) where I could grant all undo requests for the rest of the game without having it ask me. I'd also like a setting (similar to the regular autoplay settings) where it will grant every undo request that doesn't reveal additional information without asking me.


6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I wouldn't use this.


7. Option to invite specific players to your table

I would use this pretty much every time I played Dominion.


8. More translations (to what language?)

I wouldn't use this.


9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

An option to have this enabled (and have it enabled by default) is the one single thing that would improve the software the most, in my opinion. Whenever a card is gained on an opponent's turn, that card should dance in front of me. Perhaps a similar animation for if they trash a card. I really don't care about other animations (in fact I'd turn them off) but having this animation would improve the player's experience more than anything else.


10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Archive/Crypt/Haven, etc. contents, yes there needs to be a way to see that.

Split piles, eh, I don't care as much. The King's Courtier plugin does that well enough for me.


10. Option to hide the log

I'd never do it, but I think that option should be there for sure. I would use an option to hide the log and pop out another window that contained an auto-updating log.


11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I wouldn't use these.


13. Downloadable game logs

These would be great.


14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I'd like a way to squelch the chat. I'd also like a button for "report abuse", mostly because I'm tired of trying to defend the software from people who are frustrated because everyone is a jerk and they don't know how to report abuse. A lightning bolt icon with no explanation isn't enough.


15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

You can just link mine!


16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

The second most important thing for me -- In fact, if the animations were better and this existed, I'd start recommending the software to a lot of people. I'd even make it for you at no charge, provided someone pings me when there are changes to the interface that would affect the tutorial, just so I could keep it up-to-date.

I should make the distinction that I would use this heavily for myself, in addition to showing it to other people.


Edited to make it more readable
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: SamE on 09 January 2018, 07:17:57 PM
Thanks so much for this excellent Dominion Online experience. I had backed away from the previous online implementations, but this one was effective enough to lure me back. (As such, I don't get the bonus extension but would be happy to provide feedback anyways.)

Features (approximately) on your wishlist I would personally appreciate:
3. A strong bot: I hardly play against bots because they play so poorly that it's an experience that doesn't translate all that great to playing against humans.
5. Undo settings: One that I would use would be a toggle that lets you automatically grant no-information-reveal undo's. Even simpler might be "automatically grant all undo's" like the bots do for if you're playing a friendly game.
6. Options for mini-tournaments: The simplest such feature would let two players play a series of games and display the number of games each player had won so far prominently. This would have been useful for spectators in the Shuffle IT tournament and in the Dominion League. More involved brackets / scheduled matches would be cool, too, but not that necessary.
10a. Better visualization of Archive/Crypt/Haven contents: I frequently have to scroll back up in the log to see what I put in my Archives and Crypts. Havens are a bit more recent but it would still be helpful to have them in the same place.
12. A dedicated iPad app (phones would probably be too small). I frequently play on my iPad in Chrome (or sometimes Safari), and it generally works fine. The main problem I have is that it's hard to type in the chat box -- the on screen keyboard covers it up.
13. Downloadable game logs: Bring back the Council Room stats! But perhaps more importantly, the logs should also be complete, i.e. include things like however many coin tokens were spent.

Other features that would be nice:
Replay mode (mentioned by several others above): The ability to scroll forward and backwards through the moves of a completed game to see how it went, ideally with both players' hands visible. I would use this all the time for dissecting my games.
Reset random seed: When choosing to load an old game, add a checkbox for whether the random seed would be reset. The most common use case would be randomizing starting hands on a preset board without manually typing in the cards.
Allow specification of Obelisk / Bane / Druid boons in loading a game. As others have mentioned, this would let you load some of the recommended kingdoms in the rulebook.

Among all of these features, the most important to me would be replay mode, followed by better visualization of Crypt/Archive/Haven contents. I expect the easiest to implement would be series mode (displaying the score over multiple games, which I mentioned above under 6).
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: squirezucco on 09 January 2018, 08:44:20 PM
squirezucco

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, I would really like this (for plane rides and the like). Second highest priority after #9.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Nice to have, but not critical

3. A strong bot.
Would be really good. Keep in mind that bots in campaigns can be more easily optimized to a particular kingdom than they can be designed for general use.

 4. Options for timed games
Don't care

 5. Options for undo settings
Don't care

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Don't care

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Don't care

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Don't care

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
This would be helpful. I don't want to have to use the log to see what the giant trashed.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, please do this.

10. Option to hide the log
Doesn't have to better than it is now.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Nice to have, but do #1 first.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Don't care

13. Downloadable game logs
Nice to have

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
No. it's fine as is.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
The ones others have created are pretty good.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
The ones others have created are pretty good.

I hope these answers are sufficient. This took far less than an hour. I bought the expansions on Jan 1 as a result of how well you have built this on line experience.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Psyduck on 09 January 2018, 08:45:41 PM
I also don't want any compensation. But as I like Dominion Online very much and appreciate all the work being done to make it an enjoyable experience, I'd like to take the opportunity to share my thoughts nonetheless.

Personally, I don't care very much about most points on the wishlist. The exceptions I'd like to see here are the following:

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Having tournaments integrated into the client would be awesome. Besides private mini-tournaments, I'd also imagine big championships, regular events, maybe a qualification system or even some kind of league system. Organising events solely using online forums would be obsolete.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes. Not a huge deal, but yes.

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes, as this would make post-game analyses much easier. Plus, this would enable Councilroom-like statistics, which were always fun.

Additional point: Achievements
Already proposed by Bbl, but they have also been on my mind for quite some time. Back at Councilroom, they provided incentives to try new strategies, play weird engines or thrive for records. I'd really like to see them here at some point.

Additional point: Challenges
I'd like to see hand-crafted challenges to achieve a certain goal in a certain kingdom, like beating a bot, gaining the most VP in n turns, gaining the most cards etc. The challenges should be limited in time (e.g. weekly) and, well, challenging.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Polk5440 on 09 January 2018, 09:37:08 PM
Thank you for soliciting feedback. I had made the decision to not purchase any more months after my current subscription ran out primarily (but not exclusively) because of the UI quality, lack of polish, and pace of UI improvements. This would be solved by complete implementations of 9, 10a, and 10b; to a much lesser extent 15 and 16. 

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
   
An offline client is very important to me as an iPhone app. I would pay separately for it. Much less important if the client remains desktop only. For me, personally, unless campaigns were very compelling, I would not play or pay for them.

More compelling to me (and probably easier to implement) would be achievements.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I like different "personalities" for chess bots; I don't know about Dominion. More important is bot strength. I might appreciate a mostly money bot that always goes for well-defined big money + X strategies.

3. A strong bot.

I would like the bot to be stronger, or at least not get trapped with certain cards and take into account Landmarks. It doesn't need to be the most amazing AI ever, it just needs to not completely throw games when certain cards are available.

4. Options for timed games

Yes! I would very much appreciate timed games. I have written suggestions for how I would implement a clock on this forum. 

5. Options for undo settings

I like the undo as-is for unrated games, but I view its necessity as an admission that the UI regularly fails the user. Better implementation of the UI and visualization of the unfolding game would reduce the need for many types of undos.

The one thing I would add is a visual way to undo multiple steps. The /undo chat command is tacky and very few people know about it, though it does work. (Improved documentation in Online Dominion would help.)

My personal preference is to make rated games more restrictive in the types of undos allowed.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Not important to me with one exception: if there are going to be sponsored tournaments, these tournaments and features relevant to running the tournament (starting player order, contacting opponents, multi-game series) need to be done in the application itself rather than dictated from the forum.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Absolutely. Not a big deal when number of tables created is low... but that's not what you want long term, right?! It's horrible be waiting for a friend to join and having to ask other people to leave your table.

8. More translations (to what language?)

Not important for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Absolutely! The slow pace at implementing good solutions for this is one reason why I did not continue my subscription.

10A. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Absolutely! The slow pace at implementing good solutions for this is one reason why I did not continue my subscription.

10B. Option to hide the log

Absolutely, but the game has to be playable without the log, first! The slow pace at implementing good solutions for this is one reason why I did not continue my subscription.

I would add hide and/or mute chat, as well. This does not have to wait until the game is playable without the log to implement.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Not important to me (I have an iPhone).

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Very important to me. I would pay for the current version as a compatible downloadable offline app even without campaigns or better bots.

13. Downloadable game logs

Very important to me, but I understand why this isn't a top feature request outside of, say, committed f.ds members. I can't see it being a feature that actually drives sales.

There is a load log/replay game feature already built, but it's kind of useless if you can't easily search for old games. I had high hopes for this type of feature, but it hasn't delivered for me, yet.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

You are doing a good job with moderation. Hide/mute chat would be nice. An ability to report the user from in-game would be nice.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not important for me to use. However, it is critical for a tutorial -- or at least a link to the official instruction books -- to exist for me to ever want to recommend Online Dominion to friends.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Yes! Or at least documentation. This is a critical feature to exist for me to ever want to recommend Online Dominion to friends.

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: theblankman on 09 January 2018, 10:16:39 PM
Thanks for soliciting feedback, here goes...

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Don't care about this at all.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
I doubt I will ever want to play against any bot.

 4. Options for timed games
Meh.

 5. Options for undo settings
This would be really nice. Specific suggestions: Always allow undo when no new info was gained; always reject undo when new info was gained.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Might be cool but I wouldn't prioritize it. Tourneys can be done manually by a group of friends, or folks on f.ds, etc.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This would make the friend list a lot more useful. Along these lines, chat with friends that persists past a game would also be handy.


 8. More translations (to what language?)
I have no languages to request, but this is a good thing in general.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
The animations are okay as is, better ones wouldn't improve my experience.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes please.

10. Option to hide the log
Nice to have but not necessary.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I mostly play from desktop browser so it's not important to me.

13. Downloadable game logs
Depends what's meant by downloadable. Hit a button to save the log at the end of a game would be merely okay. What's really wanted is something like councilroom or gokosalvager.com, where there's a searchable and linkable history.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I haven't found any of these to be an issue.

Other:
The thing I most want is for you to get the ban list feature done.
Second most is game log history like we used to have with salvager/councilroom
It would also be nice if we could add friends or blocks at times other than right after a game with that person.

Edit: Saving/editing kingdoms for later was mentioned below, I would like that too.

PS in-game username is also theblankman
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Cave-O-Sapien on 09 January 2018, 10:54:25 PM
Here's my feedback:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Little interest. I would probably play it if it existed, but it's not stopping me from subscribing or playing more than I should.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Moderate interest

 3. A strong bot.
Moderate interest

 4. Options for timed games
Zero interest

 5. Options for undo settings
I don't ever want to see automatic denials of Undo requests. I don't mind the current system, but I would like to see some information in the request about what is potentially being Undone.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Moderate interest. As others have stated, the option to play a "Match" of a few games against someone could be a nice complementary feature to this.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes. Presumably these would be private tables?

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not important to me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not important to me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
This would be nice. Additionally: displaying States resulting from Hexes would be nice (e.g. Envious and Deluded). The Hex card is displayed, but that doesn't tell you what the state does. You can click on it in the log, but during your opponent's turn that is literally a moving target.

10. Option to hide the log
I'm not sure I would ever do this if given the option, but I would like to play without having to click in the log.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not important to me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Used to be important to me, now I doubt its feasibility due to screen size. 

13. Downloadable game logs
Very, very interested in this, mostly because people in the community will do Cool Stuff with the data.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Hasn't been an issue for me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not important to me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not important to me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Rabid on 09 January 2018, 10:57:06 PM
It would also be nice if we could add friends or blocks at times other than right after a game with that person.
This is already possible in the friend list tab.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Rabid on 09 January 2018, 11:08:45 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
No
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes
 3. A strong bot.
Yes
 4. Options for timed games
Yes
 5. Options for undo settings
Yes
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes
 8. More translations (to what language?)
No
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes
10. Option to hide the log
No
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
No
13. Downloadable game logs
Yes
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
A mute chat option please.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not for me, but yes it is needed.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not for me, but yes it is needed.

Player designed "bot battle" would be fun, but low priority unless it helps with the default bot.
I would like to be able to choose "wait for sets" even when I have sets in match making.
Cosmetic upgrades, hats, titles etc.
Targets or achievements of some kind would be nice.
Be able to access the options menu during a game.
Ideally with /action chat control as well.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: eulele on 09 January 2018, 11:51:42 PM

Hi Stef,

first of all: a very big thank you for your dedication to the game and to showing true interest in our (the players‘) needs and concerns!

General comment on how I play: So far, I have been interested only in playing against bots and I would probably continue doing so. So for me, it is not so much a question of online or offline, but rather a question of the payment model: I do not want to go for a subscription model with an annual fee. I want to pay a one-time fee and then be able to play against bots, no matter whether online or offline.

Regards,
  eulele (also my username)

Now coming to your questionnaire:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, I would like to have an offline client to be able to play  regular games against bots. Playing campaigns would be a nice additional feature.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Not quite clear what different play styles are. If you mean different strengths of the bot, then yes!

 3. A strong bot.
Yes, I would like that very much.

 4. Options for timed games
not required for me

 5. Options for undo settings
yes.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not required

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
not required

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I only need German  :)

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/…
I would love to see an option to adjust the animation speed

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
sorry, I don‘t know those

10. Option to hide the log
I don‘t need that option

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don‘t need that

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don‘t need that

13. Downloadable game logs
not required

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, …)
not required. Again: I play against bots only.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
not required for me

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not required for me
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ConMan on 09 January 2018, 11:53:44 PM
Hey Stef, thanks for the generous offer. Here are my own thoughts on the matter:

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This is a nice-to-have for me, not a must-have. I would probably play the offline client a lot more than I do the online one given my current circumstances, but if it never happened I don't think I'd wind up being that upset.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.

I would like to see bots that are a bit better at handling the boards. Even if you just had fixed boards (e.g. the Recommended Kingdoms) and bots that were designed to play those boards well, I'd be quite happy to lock horns with them.

4. Options for timed games
Not for me.

5. Options for undo settings
I'm ok with the current undo method, although it could use a little cleaning up (e.g. make it easier to undo to a certain point in the game, maybe try to indicate whether the requested undo is a "no info" undo or not).

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)

None of these are relevant to me, but I'd be happy for other people to have them in the game.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I think the current ones are ok.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes. And better ways to interrogate those things (e.g. to see what both cards in a split pile do, to scroll through cards in the discard when I've played Scavenger, etc.)

10. Option to hide the log
I don't really care. And this is the second #10 in the list.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yeah, I'd be quite happy to play on my phone if I could. Possibly with a lighter interface, a la Androminion or isotropic (or at least more in that direction to reduce the screen clutter).

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Nice, but less important for me (I guess it would let me play on my wife's iPad).

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes please. I would like to be able to see logs more effectively, and I would like to have external sites that could make use of game logs for analysis even if I wouldn't create those sites myself.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
While I haven't encountered much in the way of problem players, I think this will become more of an issue as the player base grows, so I want a good amount of attention paid to the issue. Also, I think you need tools to deal with serial offenders (especially those who create multiple accounts), and possibly also efforts to improve the social aspect of the game more generally.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
 16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I know Dominion well enough to not personally need a tutorial, but a guide to DO would have really helped me at points (I didn't realise the sliders for coin tokens, etc were sliders for an annoyingly long time). And a good tutorial would help bring more players in to the game, which is good for the community.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: tracer on 10 January 2018, 01:24:11 AM
Listed in order of importance to me:

13. Downloadable game logs
Ability to reference games by something other than a reload number which may or may not work across versions would be nice for discussion purposes.
 3. A strong bot
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I think the latter falls somewhat quickly out of the former, but being able to be consistently punished for sloppy play in bot games would be nice - at least to the point where severe misplays from the bot could actually be considered bugs.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Set aside cards by durations is just generally necessary for gameplay - somehow incorporating it into the current duration display is fine
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I don't care much about iPhone, but I think it should come around the same time Android if Apple cooperates. I think for an offline version having it on mobile should be higher priority than for desktop since offline is the only way I would use a mobile app and as a mobile app is the only way I would use online.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I would probably both use this and like it.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online
I think a tutorial for one ends up being a tutorial for the other as well. This would be really nice for getting people into the game - maybe make it accessible without an account.
 4. Options for timed games
Would probably use.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
I'll just stick this above the stuff I really don't care much about even though I wouldn't use it. It is more dependent on people willing to do translations than anything else, and as many languages as possible seems good.
 5. Options for undo settings
Current system + blacklist is fine, one or two step no information being automatic would be fine, but further than that I don't want to watch people make attempts and undo - if there were some way to hide what they were doing until information is revealed I would be fine with all no information undos.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Current system is fine.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Current system is mostly fine - maybe have a report abuse popup when blacklisting someone and count these for bans instead of blacklists.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I very much hope that if this happens it can be turned off.
10. Option to hide the log
Near impossible to play Dominion without the log if not in 3 dimensions.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: markusin on 10 January 2018, 01:29:52 AM
My username is markusin on Dominion Online.

I'll start off by saying that I am pretty happy with the gameplay offered by the client. At no point does the UI discourage me from playing more. In particular, the recently added undo and autoplay features are really great, especially when playing against bots as often as I do. I'd like to deeply thank you for providing this experience and for maintaining it the way you have up until this point.

As for specific gripes, I don't like certain aspects of the current log. In particular, I don't care for how it condenses treasures played and cards bought and gained during the buy phase into a single line. Right now you see stuff like "m plays 2 Gold and 2 Silver" and then "m buys and gain 2 Settlers, 3 Merchants, 3 Pearl Divers ...". It becomes a pain to parse visually when lists get long and discourages me from using the log what with having to jump around text in a weird way to let's say check if the opponent bought a Pawn. I think mixing the collapsing of same copy gains/plays with lines breaks would be great. So, something like:

m plays 2 Gold,
2 Silver, and
2 Copper.
m buys and gains 2 Settlers,
3 Merchants,
4 Pearl Divers, and
2 Pawns
...


Also, It's annoying how there is no searchable game history anywhere that gives the game ID# of your past games. The reload old game feature is a workaround for logs right now (when the game load feature doesn't fail to load the game) but there is no good tracking of game ID#s. Scavenger only goes so far back and only works for rated games, at least as far as I know. One has to record the game ID# of every single game played manually on a notepad or something if they don't want to risk not being able to find the game sometime in the future. Something like Goko Salvager would really be great.

As for the feature list provided, the short version is I prioritize gameplay smoothness and a more consistent bot AI.

The long version:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would play it, but it doesn't seem too necessary. I think it would be good if the offline version could do a bulk import of boards to save using a text input. This can let you import a "campaign" set or a "boards of the week" kind of thing.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Doesn't seem too worth the effort. I'd like to see a better all around AI first.

3. A strong bot.

What matters to me is not that the bot is particularly strong, but that it is consistently permissible and doesn't just drop the ball when it comes to certain setups. Right now certain cards make you really just want to reroll the board against the bot because of how badly it plays certain cards. Examples include Torturer against which the bot voluntarily locks itself out the game by discarding every time (even when curses are out), Pooka whose Cursed Gold the bot spends with every opportunity, and Counterfeit. This prevents a player from gaining any sort of proper gauge on strategies with the bot's help when it comes to certain cards.

4. Options for timed games

This doesn't interest me.

5. Options for undo settings

I'm not picky about undo settings, but it's odd how the play-all-treasures feature can be undone with a single undo step, but the other player can't easily figure out if the play-all-treasures feature was used because the opponent's treasures are always played one at a time. Goko/MF had that nice instant spread of treasures when an opponent used play all. This could matter if they are requested to have a play-all-treasures undone. Having it be clearer what would be undone if you accept an undo request would already solve the play-all-treasure issue I just mentioned.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I wouldn't personally use this feature.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

I'd like to see this happen.

8. More translations (to what language?)

I have no request for an additional language.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I'd like to see gained cards by opponents being made more visible. If having the cards dance and expand to the front of the screen is too intrusive, then maybe just flash the borders around the supply pile from which a card was just gained by the opponent. I'd also like to see an option to have cards revealed one at a time when playing stuff like Hunting Party and Scrying Pool, which is currently seen when your opponent plays those cards.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes, I'd like to see cards set aside with Archive, Crypt, Prince and the like. I've noticed their absence and found it disappointing.

10. Option to hide the log

I mentioned my issues with the log earlier, which are an annoyance to the point where I'd consider using an option to hide the log unless I need it.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I wouldn't play on an Android app, but I might like to be able to spectate on an app. In my ideal world, an Android app would exist that has a dedicated user interface specifically optimized for spectating games.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I don't own any Apple products that have install-able apps and so this doesn't concern me.

13. Downloadable game logs

I'd like to see this happen. At the very least, a way to get the game ID#s of past games, both rated and unrated, as I mentioned above.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I don't currently deal with this much, so I can't comment on how well moderation has been up until now.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I don't personally need it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Yes, I'd like this. I still find certain aspects of the online client confusing, and I can't tell you how to undo back to a specific decision point in a game. There are probably other features that exist that I am not even aware of.

Thank you for giving us this nice opportunity to give feedback.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Melawe on 10 January 2018, 02:51:20 AM
One day people bought Dominion from MF thinking they'd have it forever.
This turned out not to be true, and although I didn't think this was my fault in any way, unhappy Dominion players still made me feel bad.

Our idea was to compensate these users by giving them a choice between a year of online or the promised offline version. However, we failed to deliver an offline version until now, so this idea didn't fully work out.

I still really want an offline version, and when we get there the old MF owners will still get it for free. But this product does not make sense if we don't add campaigns first, and they don't make sense if we don't add a proper AI first. All in all it is much more work then I originally had hoped, and I now expect this to arrive in the fall of 2018.

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I've come to the following decision: If you are one of the people for whom "free 2017" just ended, I am willing to extend it with another half a year in exchange for one hour of your time. The short version is "provide feedback and don't forget to include your username". Longer version below. The offer stands for anyone replying in this thread in the next 10 days and is only about expansions you once bought from MF. If you already bought a subscription for (a part of) 2018, I will extend it with half a year for the appropriate expansions.

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Thanks Stef. I am glad this project hasn't fallen to the wayside and appreciate the work you've put into rebuilding this from scratch. No small feat! Now, onto your questions! - Melawe (also is my username in game)

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would love this, especially if I can build my own kingdoms. I'm not super compatible with playing with people since I have small windows of time to play in. Bots take shorter turns than people, in my experience. Bots don't care if I go AFK for a minute, or 5 hours, but people care a great deal.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
If this refers to a previous iteration where there were bots like "Banker Bot" that tended toward having lots of money cards, while this was neat, I don't think it's a necessity.

3. A strong bot.
This would be nice, but I'd settle for bots that don't do obviously stupid things (like trash their entire decks). A few odd bugs aside, I think the AI we currently have is passable. If the offline version can have periodic updates if AI improvements happen, that's all a person can really ask for, I think.

4. Options for timed games
Not necessary for me since I tend to play by myself.

5. Options for undo settings
Not necessary for me.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not necessary for me.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not necessary for me as I don't usually get in online games of this with friends (they just come over to our house and we play with the physical version), but when we did the online tables a lot while living in different towns, this would have been nice. We did try a game recently online and I felt really bad I had to kick the same stranger over and over so my husband could join the table, but the stranger was pretty persistent.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Not necessary for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not necessary for me. I think they're pretty good how they are.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I don't actually have experience with these since I didn't have them as part of my sub, so I have nothing relevant to say about it. Well, I had sauna/avanto, so split piles I thought were fine. Archive/Crypt I don't know.

10. Option to hide the log
Not necessary for me unless I start to play on my iPad, where screen space is at more of a premium.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not necessary for me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not necessary for me, though iPad would be nice, especially if it opens the door to buying expansions with iTunes cards.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not necessary for me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Not necessary for me since I play by myself instead of with people.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
You already have this as a link to a good forum post. I don't think anything else is necessary.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
You already have this as a link to a good forum post. I don't think anything else is necessary.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on 10 January 2018, 03:22:26 AM
Username: LibraryAdventurer
Thank you for making ShuffleIt. I love it.

Your feature list:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Only because I'm kinda poor, I would only pay for one or the other, and I prefer playing against people. So I probably wouldn't use an offline client.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
Yes. These would be much appreciated. While I prefer playing against people, I often want to play Dominion online while doing something else at the same time which means it'd be better to play against bots so I can leave the game and come back after a little while without being rude.
Multiple skill levels would be ideal because I'm not that great a player. (I would often lose to Lord Bottington, but beat most of the others on MF about 70% of the time.)

4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I don't really care about any of these (The current undo we already have is good IMO).

7. Option to invite specific players to your table.
I would sometimes use this when I want to play with friends, but it isn't high priority for me.

8. More translations (to what language?)
I only speak English.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes. These things would be great to have. I like having the log always on the screen, but I don't like having to look at the log in order to tell what just happened.

10. Option to hide the log
I wouldn't use this.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
not sure. I might use it (I do have an Android phone).

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
no. I don't do Apple products.

13. Downloadable game logs.
Yes. This would make games reports easier on fds, but not a high priority for me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
As far as I'm concerned, it's been fine the way it is now.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion.
Doesn't seem necessary to me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I wouldn't personally use it, but I do want to recommend Dominion Online to other friends of mine who are more casual Dominion players, and this would really help for them to be able to adjust to playing online.

another priority feature for me: Ability to ban a few cards.

Thank You!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: hockeysemlan on 10 January 2018, 12:30:47 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Would be fun to have, but not anything I would need prioritized.
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Better, or at least reasonable, bots is one of the features from MF I miss the most. Yes please.
3. A strong bot.
If possible, but a variation of them would be more suitable for my preferences.
4. Options for timed games
Nah. Not anything I would use very often.
5. Options for undo settings
Dito. I like it the way it is now.
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Oh. Yes please!! This would be utterly amazing!
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Why not? Sounds nice, but not as a necessity.
8. More translations (to what language?)
Nope. Not anything I need.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No thanks. Never forget Iso text version. (It's really nice the wait is now, the best part of the new client imo)
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
No thanks, see above. Completely pleased the way it is.
10. Option to hide the log
Yes please. More importantly: to be able to mute the chat.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Why not? But not anything I would use atm.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
See above.
13. Downloadable game logs
Yes. Yes. Yes.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Blacklisting works fine.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not anything I need, but the offline campaign should be able to take care of this right? I think that is a nice idea.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not anything I need.

Something else: I would like to have the option to play without VP-tracker. I also would like a way to custom and save kingdoms as you could in MF. Is this possible to arrange?

If you could fix 6, 2, 13 and my own suggestions, DO would be perfected as I see it.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: pregnantbird on 11 January 2018, 04:55:16 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
3/5 Would be a nice bonus but not absolutely necessary. As you wrote should come after having a good bot.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
4/5 Should be considered while developing 3 (strong bot).

3. A strong bot.
4/5 Would be nice to test strategies! Should include an option to choose strength especially for new players.

4. Options for timed games
2/5 Nice bonus but not necessary.

5. Options for undo settings
1/5 The present way is convenient for me.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
3/5 Nice Idea! I would use it. Might be nice with included counter with wins/ losses and automatic alternating start player.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
1/5 The present way is convenient for me. If this is implemented it should be developed together with 6 (online mini-tournaments)

8. More translations (to what language?)
0/5

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
2/5 Could help to see what the opponent is doing, medium priority for me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
1/5 Might help

10. Option to hide the log
0/5

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

5/5 Absolute number one priority!! I bought an android tablet to play dominion and it's just medium fun with it. I was very happy to see that the reordering might work in the next release. I'm fine with improved compatibility like online-go.com (http://online-go.com) where making a shortcut to the website on your home screen brings the perfect version without showing the browser. It confused me in the beginning a bit but is now very convenient as it does not to be maintained and it has no updates. An additional benefit of this would be that Iphones and androids would not need separate apps. If there is an app, an offline mode against a friend or against lord rat is a must!

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) &
13. Downloadable game logs &
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
0/5

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion &
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
0/5 Not necessary for me. Consider that new players who would need it will not answer in this thread.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Linda B on 11 January 2018, 03:33:45 PM
I've come to the following decision: If you are one of the people for whom "free 2017" just ended, I am willing to extend it with another half a year in exchange for one hour of your time. The short version is "provide feedback and don't forget to include your username". Longer version below. The offer stands for anyone replying in this thread in the next 10 days and is only about expansions you once bought from MF. If you already bought a subscription for (a part of) 2018, I will extend it with half a year for the appropriate expansions.
Shortest I can make it: Yes to all except 4, 6, 8, 9, and 12-16.

I do want an offline version because mostly I play alone. I'm trying to keep practicing till I can give my son a run for his investment in time. I like bots that I can occasionally beat, and that I can learn from. I don't want to be constantly stomped (I lose heart), so I'd actually rather win all the time than lose all the time because that way I at least can get familiar with the cards, and develop strategies. Whistles and bells and pretty are not a big deal to me.

I may want an online version as well when my son moves away for college or work. It is in anticipation of the day when he moves away that I invested in the MF games in the first place.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: afielbaum on 11 January 2018, 04:54:35 PM
Hi, I am the user AFIELBAUM in dominion.games
These are my answers

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Not too important.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I dont think there is a "style" that fits each set of piles. Not important.

 3. A strong bot.
Very important. Without it, the offline version is useless.

 4. Options for timed games.
I would only use it to increase the rapidness of the game.

 5. Options for undo settings
The only option i would add is to agree, prior to start the game, to always accept undo'es that are obviously an error (when you have no new information)

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
It would be fun, not too relevant.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This would be nice

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I would like a translation to spanish but it is not really relevant

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I dont care

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
This would be helpful

10. Option to hide the log
Nice

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
It is really slow to play on android, and it is easy to select an erroneous card. An app would be ideal, otherwise, strong improvements are needed.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I dont care.

13. Downloadable game logs
I dont think I would use this.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I have never used the moderation.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I dont need it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I dont need it.


Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: MVP on 11 January 2018, 05:02:11 PM
Username: MVP
Played on original Isotropic server and every option since

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
   This is of no value to me.  Perhaps if I were really board on an airplane I would use it, but all of the value is in live games to me.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   There are always lots of games available, I wouldnt use a bot at all.
 3. A strong bot.
   Same as above.
 4. Options for timed games
   Love this idea, I greatl enjoy playing an engaged opponent that is quick with the cards.
 5. Options for undo settings
   I guess this is a nice to have, but from a priority standpoint it is fairly low
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
   It would be great to have online tournaments.  However I wouldnt envision it as just setting it up as one for you and your friends.  There should be some structure for finding a tournament with similar skilled players.  This was done really well on internet chess club back in the day.  Adhoc tournaments and then a tournament leaderboard of some sort.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
   I enjoy playing with random people, not certain I would use this.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
   I wouldnt use this.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
   Personally i would go the other way with this.  I always enjoyed the text based implementation on isotropic.  I would be very interested in a simplier lay out with less graphics.  The present UI looks fantastic, but for those of us that play all the time the animations and graphics are window dressing.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
   Yes this would be great.  Recent changes to be aware you are under an attack duration are great.  There are still some big ones missing (having debt while on black market comes to mind as something that looks like a bug)
   
   One thing I would really like to see added is a better in game scoring UI.  The end of game scoring update is great.  In game it would be so valuable to toggle over to that view as well.  Specifically I am thinking of when you need 3 of a card for points or to know which two cards are your highest count for the other event card.  Sure you should be able to card count it most of the time.  One of the other implementations allowed this view in game (or at least a count of how many of each card you have presently).
10. Option to hide the log
   Low priority, I find it quite helpful
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
   Good idea, but I use an iphone, see below
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
   Would love this.  I play on the ipad sometimes, but it isnt great.  Most of the time I have to spin up an AWS workspaces app and play using their UI as if I were on a desktop.
13. Downloadable game logs
   I wouldnt use this for much, perhaps it would enable some of the more advanced metrics on other sites.  I remember seeing strength of your play with specific cards, that was interesting and I dont think it is presently being done.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
   Sure this would be nice to have.

   I'll add another suggestion here, I would like the option to ban someone temporarily.  There are times when I get annoyed with someone and dont wnat to play them again in 24 or 72 hours, but i don't want to add them to my permanent ban list becuase I will never remember to take them off.  Would be nice to have a timer on the ban (or permanent for the real ass hats)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
   Not important for me
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
   Not important for me

I am just going to add a suggestion at the bottom.  I haven't read anyone elses comments (as was requested) so I am not certain if this has been suggested already.

I would really like to see real time rating updates.  Only getting these once a day is a real drag, it would be great to see how your rating changes on a more regular basis.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: dsjdom on 11 January 2018, 05:05:08 PM
Here's my feedback -


Thanks and good luck with future development. My username is dsjdom.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jsh on 11 January 2018, 05:10:00 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I want this, if only to reduce the number of complaint threads. Sounds nice anyway

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Don't need it

3. A strong bot.
Matthewmatosis has a term called "Artificial stupidity." I think it's important for casual players to have a bot that knows what it's doing but doesn't play optimally. Me personally, all I really think is needed is a Big Money X bot.

4. Options for timed games
Please

5. Options for undo settings
No information always, and a setting to disallow all other requests.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Might be fun, but low priority

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Needed

8. More translations (to what language?)
Some are on the way, as I know. I think this should mostly be worked on just as it comes up, but I would prioritize Brazilian Portuguese and Spanish. There are also several Indian players on DO who might benefit from Hindi, Tamil, Punjabi, etc. Maybe ask Indian players?

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
A bit controversial, but I really don't care about this at all. I think the client looks fine.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I'd like this

10. Option to hide the log
Seems completely unnecessary, especially if you do 10)

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

In theory I would use it, but I don't really care either.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Down with Apple

13. Downloadable game logs
Sure

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Almost everyone here is saying they don't care about this, but as a moderator, I think some improvement is needed here. I don't think there are any easy answers. A Report button might help a little, but doesn't solve the underlying causes. Muting chat & Timed play would probably go a long way here.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion &
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I don't think 15) is needed at all. Some kind of interactive tutorial for 16) would be good. Maybe get Adriaan on that at some point.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: pastorshooty on 11 January 2018, 05:11:41 PM
Pastorshooty here. Before I go through the questions, I'll just say that I am one of the unhappy customers. I really enjoy playing Dominion online and play just about everyday, but I feel as though I should have gotten something better for the money I spent on the previous platform. One year vs. lifetime isn't really a good deal. It should be an even swap - lifetime for lifetime. Please do what is fair for your loyal gamers.

Now onto the questions...

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - this would be good for those rare moments when I'm not connected to the internet, but I don't see that happening too often.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - I don't play bots often, but that sounds fun.

3. A strong bot. - same answer as #3

4. Options for timed games - No comment

5. Options for undo settings - I think at least one undo should be allowed per game. I've had moments where a card was accidentally clicked and the other player would not allow the undo.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends - I like the idea of creating your own tournament. Playing against friends is more fun than playing with strangers.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table - YES

8. More translations (to what language?) - No comment

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... - I think the current animations are fine

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... - YES

11. Option to hide the log - YES

12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - YES

13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - YES (Ipad would be better)

14. Downloadable game logs - I don't see the point in this

15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - This would be wonderful. I'm sick of playing against people that act like jerks for no reason.

16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - this would be helpful to new players

17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - this would be helpful to new players
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: bbfrancis on 11 January 2018, 05:14:17 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bot:

   I have no interest in this.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

   I have no interest in this.

3. A strong bot.

   I have no interest in this.

4. Options for timed games

   YES! YES! YES! Something like each player gets a total of 30 minutes and a max per turn.

5. Options for undo settings
   
   Get rid of undo. People get pissed if you don't allow it.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

   Love this idea.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

   I have no interest in this.

8. More translations (to what language?)

   I have no interest in this.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

   I have no interest in this.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

   Yes sometimes when you stash a card you see what you stashed if you forget.

10. Option to hide the log

   No. I love the log.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

   I have interest in this.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

   I have interest in this.

13. Downloadable game logs

   Yes I love this idea.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

   I have interest in this.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

   I have interest in this.
   
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

   I have interest in this.


I would love to be able to save a kingdom.

My username is bbfrancis
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Schleeki on 11 January 2018, 05:18:24 PM
All text in red translation by Ingix

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Brauche ich nicht wirklich

I don't really need it.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Brauche ich auch nicht, macht aber sinn falls eine offlineversion käme

I don't need that either, but makes sense for the offline verion.

 3. A strong bot.

Brauche ich auch nicht, macht aber sinn falls eine offlineversion käme

I don't need that either, but makes sense for the offline verion.

 4. Options for timed games
Wäre interessant damit einige schneller spielen

Would be interesting to speed up some players.

 5. Options for undo settings
Für mich gut wie es jtzt ist

Current situation OK for me.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Wäre eine nette abwechslung

Could provide nice variety.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Wäre toll

Greatly appreciated.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Für mich nicht nötig, man könnte allerdings die englischen namen der karten mit einem rechtsklick anzeigen lassen

Not necessary for me, but one could show English card names on a right click.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Für mich gut wie es ist

For me OK as is.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Das wäre schön, wenn man beide karten sehen könnte

Would be nice to see both cards.

10. Option to hide the log
Wäre super wenn man mit einem kleinen bildschirm spielt

Would be very good when playing on a small screen.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Wäre super

Would be very good.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Wäre super

Would be very good.

13. Downloadable game logs
??
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Brauche ich nicht

I don't need that.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Für mich nicht nötig

Not necessary for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Für mich nicht nötig

Not necessary for me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ejcarter9 on 11 January 2018, 05:23:39 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Sure

 3. A strong bot.
Maybe

 4. Options for timed games
Sure

 5. Options for undo settings
Definitely. How many times have I mistakenly clicked when I was trying to right-click or because I was hovering over the wrong space? I absolutely want an undo feature.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not important to me.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
No

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Sure

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yeah, that could use some input from UX designers who happen to play Dominion.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes

10. Option to hide the log
Definitely. But I want to easily see the trash pile.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
If that allows me to play on a Kindle Fire, then Yes.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Too small a screen for me to consider that an option.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not important to me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I usually play just bots, so not important to me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Sure

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Sure.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: eowyn_32 on 11 January 2018, 05:25:39 PM
Hello,

I play Dominion once in a while and really enjoy it. I play a lot with bots, and my username is eowyn_32. My two cents would be:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Sure, this sounds like fun!

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Yes! Since I do play a lot with bots, it would be nice to have some variety in style. A bot that didn't get "stuck" with certain cards all the time would be great.

 3. A strong bot.

I'm a medium-skilled player right now, so I'm not sure this would be a high priority for me.

 4. Options for timed games

Not a priority for me.

 5. Options for undo settings

Yes!

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Not sure I'm at this stage at present.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes!!

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Not for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I would love such a thing and be interested in downloading it, depending on cost.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Nope, not for me.

13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not needed for me, but I think important for new players.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Again, not for me, but great for new players, or if any significant new changes were to happen in online game play.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Martin plays Piano on 11 January 2018, 05:28:53 PM
Hi Stef,

here's my prio list.
User name in Dominion online: Rachmaninoff

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
not necessary for me
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
yes, nice to have - the bot's play style should be chosen either randomly or with a pre-set
3. A strong bot.
yes, this should be included in #2
4. Options for timed games
not necessary for me
5. Options for undo settings
undo should be automated in case there is no new information detected
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I am not sure, whether me personally will use this often - but could be fun for many players
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
yes, matching tab should include private tables and invitations for friends (or specific players)
it would be nice to have some more information together with the player's name always when this is shown (current level, a little flag of home country, an avatar)
8. More translations (to what language?)
no
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
yes, could be nice - but I recommend a smoother log with last cards bought pictures, last card trashed pictures etc.
"smooth log" means also replay funtions in slow-motion for the last 1,2,3 turns
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
no - I use the kingdom visualiser from Icehawk for this
10. Option to hide the log
see #9
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
no
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
no
13. Downloadable game logs
no
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
no - Discord moderators do a great job here
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
no
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
no

To be honest, I would like more statistics:
- leaderboard of the day / week / month (based on games last day / last week / last month)
- shooting star of the day / week / month
- bring the Breppert tool into Dominion online
- leaderboard against bots (when #2 and #3 is implemented)

That's it - have fun and many thx for the job done so far.

Rachmaninoff
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: AthosNRW on 11 January 2018, 05:35:38 PM
Hi Stef

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Not an important priority on the top. But at any time nice to have in case of an internet shutdown

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, that would be nice, because I play a lot against bots (because I'm making some breaks during my work without looking for real opponents for a quick play). Different styles would be really nice.

 3. A strong bot.
Also this would be really nice, because the current bots are playing stupid (counterfeid, bandid fort, mascerade or trashing cards) I can imagine how difficult it is to create a bot-mashine that looks for the setting before starting to play, but it would be very nice.


 4. Options for timed games
Good idea to avoid slow players

 5. Options for undo settings
It's okay as it is

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
That would be a nice option. Good idea.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
No need for me

 8. More translations (to what language?)
No need

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No need. It's okay as it is

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Nice idea, but no need for me

10. Option to hide the log
Maybe good idea for smaller screens, but no need for me

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No need for me

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
No need for me

13. Downloadable game logs
No need for me

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Maybe an option to force a slow player myself with a time bank to start his next turn, otherwise he resign automatically

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
No need

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
No need

Last but not least: I am very happy with the improvement of the online client the last year. Well done.
Best regards
AthosNRW
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: NBY on 11 January 2018, 05:39:38 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots  I started on the MF site and loved the campaigns, though they were online.  Even though I got stuck a number of times, I came back to continue playing.  I would be happy to have this feature back and would use it, perhaps equally or more than playing with random-style matching other people.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles  Interesting idea, low priority.  Sounds hard to code what different styles of play are?  Do you mean choosing supply piles that are more Attack, or equal Attack/Reaction or Duration?  This doesn't matter to me though I might try it once or twice.

3. A strong bot.  ?  No opinion/don't need it.

4. Options for timed games  Not a bad idea, but not important to me.

5. Options for undo settings Low priority. I read a thread where it said you can go to a point in the log and undo from there, but honestly I just hit undo a few times if needed and don't try to undo more than what I just immediately did.  Just like live gameplay.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.  This sounds like fun, but only once you get to #7!

7. Option to invite specific players to your table  Absolutely!  What's been the point of making these "friends" when I can't invite them, only go join a table where they are and wait for them to finish what they're currently doing?

8. More translations (to what language?)  N/A but a good idea.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... I'm fine with what you have.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...  Split piles for sure; it's helpful to know what's under, especially when dealing with newer cards.  Prince stuff becomes obvious fairly quickly, and I don't know Archive/Crypt well enough to comment.

11. Option to hide the log  Not important to me/very low priority; I like having the log there, as it allows me to look at another window and then come back on my turn and quickly scan to see what happened.

12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)  13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)  Nice idea but I don't care - I don't play on my phone.

14. Downloadable game logs  Don't care/low priority - I think this game is best played, not read.  There's too much to do in life to reread old games.

15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)  Not a high priority for me; never had a bad situation, thank goodness.  Good idea in general, though, as there are always going to be troublemakers.

16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion  Does this exist already on the Rio Grande site?  Link there instead, as it's their game, and it makes sense to let people go there, learn more, perhaps even buy something if they like it enough.  (Looking, it seems you can download "Game Assets" including the rules; don't know if that's sufficient, or if you want to link to the basic rules of gameplay?  Just saying: don't reinvent the wheel.)

17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. Tips and tricks to using your system makes a LOT of sense.  For instance, on my mouse (PC) I right-click to read a card, but on my Macbook I have to tap my track-pad with two fingers to read the card.  I had a bit of trial and error before I figured those things out.

My username is NBY.  I would greatly appreciate another 6 months for free!  I'm sorry your feedback got out of hand.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ednever on 11 January 2018, 05:40:34 PM
Stuff I would use/want from your list:

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

-> Yes yes yes. I don't really care about campaigns, but being able to play bots offline would be great. Even if they aren't very good.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

-> Yes.

 3. A strong bot.

-> Definitely

 4. Options for timed games

-> I don't think I would ever use this

 5. Options for undo settings

-> Maybe. But likely not. What you have now works fine 95% of the time

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

-> In theory I would like this. In practice I will not use it until the kids are older

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

-> Sounds nice, but I would not use it

 8. More translations (to what language?)

-> Not for me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

-> I don't care about this at all

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

-> Maybe nice to have (I'll bet I would appreciate it when its there, but I'm not asking for it). Being able to read the card at the bottom of the split pile would be nice (but at this point I have it all memorized anyway)

10. Option to hide the log

-> I would never hide it

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

-> I do not have an Android. But if there was an offline mode I might play on an Amazzon Fire on planes

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

-> yes yes yes. Last time I tried it was unplayable. Is it better now? An app would be fantastic.

13. Downloadable game logs

-> I would like this for others in theory. But I would rarely use it

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

-> I would like to be able to better deal with chat abuse and slowrolling. But solution now is fine. Someone only gets to do it to me once and then I lightningbolt them and never see them again

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

-> Not for me

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

-> Not for me


Thanks for all the work you have put into this. Definitely worth whatever I pay you per year for the enjoyment I get from it.

Thanks,

Ed
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Diedre on 11 January 2018, 05:41:44 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
It would be nice but I think it will be too time-consuming (not worth it)
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Sure, it wil be nice.
 3. A strong bot.
Sure. I tried to play against bots when I was sloppy/sick but it was not fun for me. It did not have the challenge. Today, I play unrated in this conditions.
 4. Options for timed games
Do not need.
 5. Options for undo settings
Yes, I think that is needed. I like the undo feature but I think it needs improvement (like not allowing undo when reveals new information).
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I am more of a fan of tournaments that you could join and play over a couple of days.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Do not need. Creating a new table/joining works fine
 8. More translations (to what language?)
English is fine. (but I heard that a Brazilian guy translated the cards to Portuguese... It would be nice since it will bring more Brazilians to Dominion Online)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Do not need. I usually turn them off.
 10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Sure!!! For me is top priority now. And please, remove the buttons of the log (it should be a dialog box.)
 11. Option to hide the log
Do not need.
 12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Do not need.
 13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Do not need.
 14. Downloadable game logs
Yes, this would be nice for post-game analysis
 15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Low priority since I hardly meet these kind of people.
 16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Do not need.
 17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Do not need.

My username is Diedre. I already bought a subscription for this year. But it would be nice to have it extended to June 2019 :)

Keep the good work, Stef!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: yevgenovitch on 11 January 2018, 05:44:36 PM
I'm yevgenovitch
Most of my play is against the bots, so I am strongly in favor of items 1,2,and 3.  The current bots all seem to have the same strategy, and they all overuse/misuse some cards (such as Counterfeit) while completely ignoring many others (a bot game with Castles is almost an automatic victory). 
4. Options for timed games

Could be nice for experienced players, regardless of skill level, but not that big of a deal

5. Options for undo settings

This is working fine for me as is

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

These would both be nice

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Not an issue for me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Too much animation can end up being a distraction

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

A definite must-have, particularly with split piles. Newbies I've played with get confused with these.

10. Option to hide the log

Would be nice when playing on a smaller device, if for no other reason than to expand the main screen

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Improved compatibility would be nice.  One suggestion I have would be to slightly increase font size of the number telling how many of a given card you have in your hand.

13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Not an issue for me

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Useful for new players.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: katie_mi on 11 January 2018, 06:00:15 PM
player name katie_mi

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
    I'm not interested, as I want to play against real players
 
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   same as above, not of interest to me
 
3. A strong bot.
same as above, not of interest to me
 
4. Options for timed games
not important for me
 
5. Options for undo settings
I'd like to have a matching feature where you match players who accept an undo or don't. Another option would be to have an automatic undo granted as long as there's no new information as it it handled on other platforms. No undo else.
 
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
No need for me
 
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I like have the option to invite friends to my table or restrict tables to friends only. Now I don't use the table feature because I want to have a choice who I'm playing with in sort of level, friends etc. I liked how the tables were handled at GOKO. You could set up a table and specify your conditions for joining and the table owner had to approve.
 
8. More translations (to what language?)
I play in English
 
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yes, I think getting away from the log would be good. Neither MF nor Goko used a log for the game, so shifting the focus back to the game and away from the log would be a great improvement.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Showing the content of split piles should be improved.

10. Option to hide the log
If the game can be played with out the log it would be good.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
If the existing bugs are removed (like sorting the cards) I don't need an app.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't have Iphone

13. Downloadable game logs
I don't need that

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
If the tables were improved as suggested and I can select who I will play with, I don't need more moderation

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I think it would be useful for new players.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think it would be useful for new players.

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Serikosia on 11 January 2018, 06:08:15 PM
Hello Stef!  First of all thank you for making a playable product.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots -
Low priority.  I like playing against humans.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - See 1
 3. A strong bot. - see 1
 4. Options for timed games - Eh?  While that would encourage some strategy paths over others, and *some* users would stay on their toes more, it's not imperative.
 5. Options for undo settings - Yes please.  User-settable "no Undos allowed", "No Undo by mutual agreement"
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. - Yes!  Fun!
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table Oh yes please!

 8. More translations (to what language?). N/A

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...  No thanks
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...  Yes please.  I need to see everything I can see when I play IRL, including what is under my Archives, where all the tokens are, what piles have been "broken".

10. Option to hide the log - will help for training for IRL games.  Like.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - My personal productivity would approach zero.

13. Downloadable game logs - Yes please.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) Necessary.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - N/A
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. N/A
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Icehawk78 on 11 January 2018, 06:08:44 PM
Username: Nicholas Galauxy

Regarding the posted list:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Not sure that I would ever play campaigns, unless I was *really* bored. Vanilla offline play against bots would be much more likely to be used, but only in a mobile setting, as the only time I would want to play against bots is when my play is going to be too asynchronous to play against a real person.

I have Androminion still installed on my phone for when I'm on the train or in meetings at work and want to play but at any time might have to set my phone down and stop playing for 5-30 minutes.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.


These are sort of one and the same to me - if it was possible to have different skill levels of bots, that might be nice for players to sort of "level up" their skill. Personally, I basically only play against Ratty when developing my chrome extension for the site, because the play style simple isn't especially interesting against the bots right now.

That having been said, I'd still likely prefer to play against humans in nearly all cases except with offline/asynchronous play, so I'm not sure how high a priority for me this would be.

4. Options for timed games

I would never do this and would want the ability to actively turn this off for matched games. The current turn delay timer is the most I would want for a timed game.

5. Options for undo settings

This would likely be a low-priority nice-to-have for me, similar to the autoplay that was recently released, ie: I'd never prioritize it, but once I have it I'd probably appreciate and enjoy it.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Kinda indifferent towards this. I might participate if they were advertised, but it wouldn't personally influence me either way.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

100% want this, in addition to other ways of communicating with logged in players. I have ~100 people on my friends list, and maybe 0.1% to 1% of my games ever are me seeing them logged in and then joining a game with them, especially because right now to do so, you effectively have to join an in-progress game and then say "hey, want to get rid of whoever this other loser I don't know is and play with me?"

And that both feels rude and is kinda awkward. So, I like this, but would also strongly pair this with some other friend-list related features, like "random pair with someone else on my list who wants to play with friend-people" and "friend-list broadcast" and "other out of game chat" and the like. I can see ways that could go badly, but a lot more ways it can go well.

8. More translations (to what language?)

Nicer to have a wider player base to play against, but my primary language is English so this won't directly affect me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

If this can be disabled, then maybe. It does feel like this would need to be a priority for a stronger focus on single-player/bot games, since Ratty's turns currently happen instantaneously, but the quick pace that the lack of animations currently provides is a strong positive for me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Given that I've explicitly worked on a Chrome extension to help with this, I think this would be a major quality of life improvement. There are several things that could help with this (making the split pile randomizer cards available, the same way that Castles/Knights' randomizers are, utilizing the mini-reveal area like is being done with Druid, updating the card models to track which piles/zones they originated from, etc) both from a third-party developer perspective as well as from a first-party development perspective.

(Also, 100% of my dominion-related code is open-source, so feel free to borrow/reuse any of it that might be useful, if you're at all interested.)

10. Option to hide the log

I would never use this option.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I would use this all the time. Androminion feels like a major step backwards every time I boot it up, but it's the only way for me to Dominion on-the-go, so it stays around. One feature that should almost certainly be included would be integration with randomizer apps (specifically, Jack of All Dominions) if kingdom randomizer settings aren't added.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I would never use this.

13. Downloadable game logs

I would love to work on a game analytics platform based on log parsing. If at all possible, it might be nice to include an explicitly machine-readable set of a logs in addition to the more commonly useful human-readable logs.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I haven't personally encountered much issue with this thus far, with the existing blacklist functionality. If it improves the community overall, then yay?

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.


I would never use this, but I suppose getting new players in is good.


---

Other suggestions:

- Sticky table rules
When I change a setting on a table I've created, such as marking a game as ranked, or deselecting random start, those should stay the same the next time I create a table.

- Additional Kingdom Randomizer Options
This is definitely more of a casual player request, but the wide availability of randomizer apps on mobile for things like "I want a kingdom with at least one source of +buy, and at least two non-standard treasure cards" would imply that many people would like this.

Additionally, I remember one particular setting that I used extremely frequently on Iso, which was generating a kingdom with 10+[number of players] cards and letting each player veto one kingdom card.

- Non-standard Variant Rules
Allowing (for non-rated games) things like "stack your starting hands" or "always have identical start hands". (I'm aware that DXV is against this so it's unlikely to happen, but this is a place for feedback, not things I necessarily think will happen.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Serikosia on 11 January 2018, 06:10:17 PM
Often requested:  "Ban a card by mutual agreement."  (e.g., Can we agree not to use Rebuild?)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Harimurti on 11 January 2018, 06:14:58 PM
also ich weiß nicht woran es liegt, aber ich habe fast immer die gleichen karten, dien event und lanmark karten sind so gut wie gar nciht mehr gekommen, und wenn dann immer nur die selbe karte.

50 euro ist für das jahr einfach zu tuer, das werde ich mir nciht leisten. habe dominion also boardgame mit allen erweiterungen und jetzt nochmal für alles jedes jahr zahlen in dieser höhe, ist einfach zuviel.

Translation by Ingix:

Not sure what the reason is, but I almost always get the same cards, events and landmarks almost never appear and when they do, it's always the same card.

50€ per year is to much, I'm not going to pay that. I have Dominion as board game with all expansions and now paying 50€ again for everything every year is just to much.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ryan.echternacht on 11 January 2018, 06:16:46 PM
I'm ryan.echternacht on MF and the new client.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I'd prioritize this lowly.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I'm, personally, more interested in an open bot SDK that would allow me to try to build my own. I'd be happy to collaborate on this. (I'm a dev, and know Icehawk78, the King's Courtier dev, irl).

 3. A strong bot.

I'd only experience this if I played campaigns.

 4. Options for timed games

Hmmm. I understand the pain when the 15 min game you expected take 30-40 minutes. That said, I don't know how to implement this fairly. If this is turn based, I think everyone deserves a long turn or two across a game. If this is game-based -- every board is different, so I don't see how you do this fairly.

I imagine people ask about this for 2 reasons, and it'd probably be worthwhile to figure out which one is more important (and which one, if either, you'd like to address) -- am I upset because I wanted a 15min game and it's 35min instead, or am I upset because I think my opponent is playing slowly (especially if s/he is getting attack prompts which keep interrupting my turn).

 5. Options for undo settings

I'm a chronic undoer, so I'd never restrict these options. That said, there are probably 3 undos --
1) I committed a whole action and changed my mind. If people want to block this, I think we have to accept it.
2) I'm halfway through an action and changed my mind (especially when it involves choosing things). I would like to preserve my ability to undo these
3) I messed something up technically. These are the most frustrating, and I think you're already trying to fix these. Not sure how to handle these.

If possible, it'd be interesting to implement an "auto allow undos without new information", but I imagine that would have a ton of corner cases.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

This could be cool. I would probably use this.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

This would be nice. In general, I think the friends list has a lot of improvements (smarter offline recognition, easier to start games, chat).

 8. More translations (to what language?)

English is my first language.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

This has gotten better. I liked seeing cards show up when cards like hunting party are played. Also, the log is a bit weak on these.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

King's Courtier helps out here, but I think this is important. The enchantress improvement was great, but we definitely need more. Additionally, I still forget to call teacher a bunch at the start of my turn.

10. Option to hide the log

Nope, I would not use this ever.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I'm iOS

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I didn't even know this was released. I already play too much, so hopefully you don't release this :)

13. Downloadable game logs

Could be cool, and it might enable some interesting 3rd party applications. I'm doubtful I'd use it on its own.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I've never had an issue, so not sure how good this is (or how much it's needed).

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I would imagine that most people play in person before moving online. I definitely don't need it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

If you know how to play dominion, I think you learn this in 1-2 bot games. I definitely don't need it.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Missinaibi on 11 January 2018, 06:22:41 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Something I would use occasionally. Most times I'm connected via WiFi.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
It would be helpful to have styles identified and the ability to learn them. I use bots now only when I cannot give full attention to the stream of a game with another player, anticipated interruptions or a short time frame before needing to leave for an event/appointment.
 3. A strong bot.
While I'm challenged by playing more experienced players with stronger ratings I don't choose higher difficulty bots. Not really sure why, just me. No need for this UNLESS linked to the bot style options it could help with stretching my play skills.
 4. Options for timed games
Yes, there are times when selecting random games isn't an option because I don't have the time for a slow player or cards with building options that require more time to select cards to discard or play in a specific sequence. Would need a timer on the screen so game time is counted down. Assume winner would be most points at the game deadline.
 5. Options for undo settings
Humm, maybe? I usually prefer to play that undo's are limited to one for each player, which would really be an undo setting option I guess. If added, it should be set up at the beginning of play by the players or as a search parameter when looking for a game. Once set up and agreed on available options could be displayed when the undo is requested.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I haven't engaged in tournaments. A mini options could be less intimidating and a way to get started into using the tournament option.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
YES!
 8. More translations (to what language?)
No, English is my native language.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not really. I can do without splashy graphics that distract from the game.
 10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes. Would like to see both cards displayed with a right click, including details of the function of both cards.
MORE importantly - The ability to expand the discard stack cards. (If there's a way now I don't know it)
 11. Option to hide the log
Maybe. I don't need it on my laptop as the screens are big enough. Could be helpful if I was playing on a notepad or smart phone.
 12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Improved capability is critical with an updated online software. An APP might be needed to deal with small screen real estate.
 13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
No, I'm an Android user.
 14. Downloadable game logs
Might be nice. Occasionally I'd like to study a log to learn how a player got the upper hand on me. The ability to store some would make that possible.
 15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slow players, ...)
I have used the blacklist and reporting functions when I felt there was behavior that exceeded my threshold. I have no idea how reported abuse is to be addressed by administration. I would hope that a player with persistent reported bad behavior would be barred from the game. Some people just aren't worth trying to keep as an active customer of the site. For slow play the timed force out does effect rating, if that matters to the player. Can you determine if a player is intentionally stalling in hopes the other player will quit first? If there is, then a stiffer penalty should be enforced and it should be a pop up screen so all players are aware of the consequences.
 16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Yes. The adventures were helpful when I first learned to play and I learned a good bit by them. I have no idea if they are still out there as I haven't needed them. They could be a good way to intro new sets of cards especially now that additions add complexity to the play options.
 17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Yes. same as above.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ozgumboots on 11 January 2018, 06:25:30 PM
Feedback:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, this would be great and I would use it - mainly on a tablet, though.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, I would love this.
 3. A strong bot.
Yes, I would like different strengths of bots, including one stronger than the current one(s).
 4. Options for timed games
I would not use this.
 5. Options for undo settings
I am find the way they are.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I like this option, but don't know anyone I could do it with.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
YES! I would love to be able to create a specific game for me and a friend.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
No need.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No need.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I would like to be able to see the bottom half of a split pile - the first time I played one I had to ask what was on the bottom as I couldn't figure it out.
10. Option to hide the log
Yes - it takes up too much space.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes.  I would use this.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I wouldn't use this.
13. Downloadable game logs
Nice, but I probably wouldn't use this.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I haven't had a need for this with Dominion (but have needed it for other online games).
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I didn't need this although it would be good for new players.  I learned to play before I found the online version.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I didn't need this.
Username: ozgumboots
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: kn1tt3r on 11 January 2018, 06:25:50 PM
User: kn1tt3r

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
=> certainly desirable for the game and client, but not terribly interesting for me.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
=> Could be interesting to try things out, but not mandatory for me; for the platform itself very important I think.

 3. A strong bot.
=> If there are to be bots, then there definately should be one that's strong.

 4. Options for timed games
=> Interesting option and would be fun to try out, but low priority I think.

 5. Options for undo settings
=> Yes, please.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
=> Not interesting for me, but sounds neat.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
=> Sounds like a smart feature that complements nicely with the existing platform.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
=> Not needed. But well... I'm German and I still play with the original English cards.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
=> I think this is crucial for a more popular and wider spread client. At the very least it should make the log unnecessary. It should be customizable, however, to what extend you see the animations.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
=> Sure. Almost a must, rather than a feature.

10. Option to hide the log
=> Absolutely. But all the necessary information need to be shown in some other way of course.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
=> Don't really care.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
=> Care even less.

13. Downloadable game logs
=> I would be happy to have a viewable game log post-game at least. But sure, this would make discussion games and learning from them much easier.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
=> Don't care.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
=> Should be added, yes. Or at least link to some other tutorials.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
=> Should be added.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: bvannatta on 11 January 2018, 06:26:29 PM
Here is my feedback (user bvannatta)

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Campaign against bots would be fun.  Don't care whether it is offline or not.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Sounds interesting.  I only play against bots, so the more options the better.

 3. A strong bot.
Again, the more bot options the better.

 4. Options for timed games
Don't care

 5. Options for undo settings
This is nice.  With a computer game, it is very easy to click the wrong thing. 

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not something I would use

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not something I would use

 8. More translations (to what language?)
English speaker

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I have no problem with how this is set up now.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
This could be helpful

10. Option to hide the log
Don't we have this now?

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No interest

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would buy this if it were good.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not something I would use

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Not an issue for me

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I think most people on the computer probably know how to play.  If you did an app it would be a necessity I would think.  Just got the app for "Through the Ages" and the tutorial was what caused me to buy it, since I had never played the actual board game.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I would think this would be part of the normal tutorial.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Scott1 on 11 January 2018, 06:26:46 PM
Here is my feedback:
My username is scott1. I use an iPad, the medium sized one.
I Hate the log, it wastes space on my small screen.
Please don’t ever put a clickable option there. Too hard to click, and surrounded by clutter.
I almost always play bots because real people often quit, or play crazy slowly just to annoy you. Many trolls.
I want offline game as an installed app with good bots.
Thanks for keeping up with new cards.
The UI is ok, but lacks joy. I wish everything was bigger and more animated.
Pinch to zoom really screws things up.
Even if the app just showed the website full screen it would be a big win. So much better.
Here are the answers to your questions:


Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I want to play offline against bots, with my iPad. I don’t care about campaigns.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Easy medium hard is good enough
 3. A strong bot.
Yes
 4. Options for timed games
No
 5. Options for undo settings
No, just always allow when reasonable
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
No
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Low priority but nice to have
 8. More translations (to what language?)
No
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yes
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
yes
10. Option to hide the log
YES one thousand times. Worst thing about the game is the log and the tiny touch targets of the questions that appear there. I have played hundreds of online games, never once looked at the log. It wastes SO MUCH screen real estate, and it is already hard to read some UI elements. Please get rid of the log.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes
13. Downloadable game logs
No
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse,
No
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
No
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
No
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Silly Walks on 11 January 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Rabbit of Caerbannog says:

I think you're doing great - no bad feelings here.

Feedback:

TOURNAMENTS
The biggest thing I would wish for is the option to do tournaments that give fun or valuable prizes. League tournaments based upon your rank/score. Maybe some prizes could be fun avatar settings, personalized animations, different backgrounds, and temporary use of sets you don't have (etc.). As an idea: I want to be able to create a set and have five other players in my league (relatively same rank) create their own sets, and round-robin best 2/3 with the six sets, randomized. Even if I don't own all cards, I want to be able to create a set for the tournament I play that could make use of any card. Maybe you can enter into a tournament only once a week, matched with anyone else who is in your league.

YES - VERY YES - NEEDED:

WOULD BE NICE, BUT NOT NEEDED:

NOT NEEDED IMO:
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: KR Patrol on 11 January 2018, 06:34:10 PM
My user name is KR Patrol.

I have enjoyed your interface for dominion.  I especially like that you changed the way MF handled resigning - there should be the same results for resigning or losing a game. 

To answer your questions:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots.

Medium importance

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Medium importance

 3. A strong bot.
That would be great.

 4. Options for timed games
Medium importance

 5. Options for undo settings
I would like more options for undo, sometimes you click on the wrong card.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Sounds cool, medium importance

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Good feature.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I speak English only - not needed for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not needed for me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Medium importance

10. Option to hide the log
Medium importance

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not needed

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES please - that would be awesome!

13. Downloadable game logs
Medium importance.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
It would be especially nice to improve the ability to deal with those who use abusive language in the chat room.
 
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not needed.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not needed.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Scott1 on 11 January 2018, 06:38:04 PM
 Here’s another thought.
Everyone knows we want the log to go away.
 If you could make one small change now, it would take away most of the pain. The change is to allow the log to be hidden, and just put a button in the corner which brings it up when you want to see it. Consider adding a new message counter to it  that tells the player when someone has sent him a chat message. Other than that, we could get rid of that long almost entirely.  Players like me who always use bots would never ever look at this log.

 If you want to really hit it out of the park with a small change, consider putting two buttons. The second button would appear only when there is a question that you need to or have the option to answer. Have that button summon a window which shows you the questions and it would be much easier  to see them and click on them. There is no reason why those questions need to be part of the log.
 All of this, together with a bare-bones app which simply puts the current website full screen, would be the greatest gift to your users.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: clarey on 11 January 2018, 06:41:28 PM
Hi Stef, thanks for thinking of us old MF users. I'm one of the people who bought a yearlong Gold subscription on January 1 2018 (and had every expansion in MF before Empires).

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
- YES, extremely interested in any and all offline possibilities. A two-player version where you can pass the computer/phone back and forth (to play your friend) would be especially welcome.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
- This would be interesting but I'm fairly neutral about this addition.

 3. A strong bot.
- Fairly uninterested in this, since I'm not unhappy with the current bot.

 4. Options for timed games
- Yes, interested in this, mostly so that impatient players can go elsewhere and not be mean to slower players.

 5. Options for undo settings
- I don't need them; the simple undo function is enough for me.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
- Sounds fun, but in reality I'd only use this a couple times per year

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
- Would DEFINITELY use this option, frequently

 8. More translations (to what language?)
- I wouldn't need any language other than English

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
- Nice to have but unnecessary

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
- This would be helpful, especially for Prince, but not essential

10. Option to hide the log
- This would also fall under "handy but not essential."

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
- I ONLY play on my iPhone, so an app would be really great. Second only to offline version. Currently I can't use the chat feature on my iPhone SE; that is my main complaint about iPhone usage.

13. Downloadable game logs
- Yes, I would download many logs.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, etc.)
- This has been adequate to date, no complaints

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
- I wouldn't look at this.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
- I would look at this once per each new expansion.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: isellsunshine on 11 January 2018, 07:00:08 PM
Would love the ability to play the same set again with the same user. Both parties have to agree of course. Sometimes we need more time with cards to get the combo's down but poof! they are gone never to be seen together again anytime soon, if ever.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: KRmnd on 11 January 2018, 07:01:12 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes I would use this, I play against bots regularly.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes ability to tweak bots would be fun, current bots are very card oriented

 3. A strong bot.
Control of bot strength, much like you can get when playing chess.

 4. Options for timed games
I like to play lots of games, faster the better.

 5. Options for undo settings
Restarting a game from scratch would be nice, there are times when I would like to replay the same game I just played so I could try a different strat.


 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Perhaps, when I play with friends, we use the real cards.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Agreed

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not for me, but go for it.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not a priority for me, again I prefer faster games.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Agreed,  also visualization of the continuity cards is an issue.

10. Option to hide the log
Not a priority for me, without the log, I can't determine the other players strats.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
IMO you would need at least a tablet to have the screen space to play well.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Again it's about screen space to make it work well.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not a priority for me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Has not been an issue for me.  Knowing a players play speed would be nice before agreeing to play.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not a priority.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not a priority,  more pre-planned card decks and challenge plays would be fun.
 

Thanks for game, it just keeps getting better over time.

KRmnd

Cheers
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: poppet on 11 January 2018, 07:14:51 PM
Hi...My username is Poppet and I am an old user that did have subscriptions when the game transfered over.

Here is my feedback...

Here are some guidelines on the kind of feedback I'm looking for:
 1. Try to keep it short & concise
 2. Try to describe your own personal wishes, not what you think is best for others.
 3. Please make actual points in these posts (instead of refering to earlier posts making points)


 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I only occasionally play against bots.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would be prefered, so you could have different types of games would be great.

 3. A strong bot.
If you could control the strength of the bot, that would be great!

 4. Options for timed games
I've never had a problem with the amount of time a game has taken.

 5. Options for undo settings
I've never had the need to use 'undo', I play as is.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
No, I would not use this feature.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I would use this feature occasionally.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I do not have a need for this feature.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I think the animations are great just the way they are.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I think it's fine the way it is.
 
10. Option to hide the log
This is not an issue for me.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I only use my PC to play.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I only use my PC to play

13. Downloadable game logs
I would not use this.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes, this would be helpful. Having a way to turn off chat would be great!

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I would not use this.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I would not use this.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Henry21323 on 11 January 2018, 07:26:18 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
   Nice idea, would use on a iPad.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   Yes
 3. A strong bot.
   I’m not so strong a player myself.
 4. Options for timed games
   Would not use.
 5. Options for undo settings
   Ok, but current options sufficient for me.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
   Might use with a few friends 
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
   Yes.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
   The more the merrier I imagine – but might hard too, I appreciate.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
   Seems fine so far.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
   Would be good
10. Option to hide the log
   No opinion.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
   Nice.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
   iPad.
13. Downloadable game logs
   Sure.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
   No opinion.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
   Advice for intermediate players would be nice.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
   Exists already, doesn’t it?

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: JewDude93 on 11 January 2018, 07:33:51 PM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Wouldn't really use it
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This could be interesting for play testing setups
 3. A strong bot.
Having an adjustable level difficulty would be preferable!
 4. Options for timed games
YES PLEASE
 5. Options for undo settings
Not sure what this means. If it means the ability to jump back one card, or to the beginning of the turn, that would actually be really helpful!
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Could be fun. Would need a good number of players, and I prefer 3 person games personally.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
YES PLEASE
 8. More translations (to what language?)
Don't need them
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
It's fine as is
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Definitely need. Also noticed recently that the function to mix the Prince back into the deck wasn't working.
10. Option to hide the log
I use the log religiously
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES
13. Downloadable game logs
Not needed
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slow players, ...)
Don't really see much of it. A forced timer turn would be better
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
For friends would be great! Last model had a campaign mode that taught you different play styles and ways to win while expanding your knowledge base of cards.

My username in game is LaughingMan28
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: cingams on 11 January 2018, 07:34:00 PM
Hi Stef! Thanks for doing that great work, the game is now much better than from mf or the versions before.
I was one of the MF "lifetime" owner and i would buy another "lifetime", but the "one year" option is to expensive for me.
Here are my anweres of your list:


 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.

I don´t need offline games. I dont want to play against bots.


 4. Options for timed games

Don´t need to create a new game. buy cards to end the game or leave. no timout.

 5. Options for undo settings

good as it is now

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

yes please, maybe funny

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

need

 8. More translations (to what language?)

no
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

no

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

 yes please

10. Option to hide the log

i will never hide the log

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

i dont´t play the apps

13. Downloadable game logs

don´t need. when game is finnished, a new one will come

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

think it´s ok like it is. blacklist helps a lot. thx for that :)

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

good for new players and sometimes for oldies when new stuff is comming


Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: mniedz on 11 January 2018, 07:37:04 PM
user: mniedz

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
yes
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
yes
 3. A strong bot.
very much yes
 4. Options for timed games
don't care
 5. Options for undo settings
yes
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
no
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
no
 8. More translations (to what language?)
no
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
don't care
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
don't care
10. Option to hide the log
don't care
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
don't care
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
yes!
13. Downloadable game logs
don't care
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
don't care
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
don't care
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
don't care
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: vaf29 on 11 January 2018, 07:41:52 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Not interested

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Might use this.

 3. A strong bot.
Might use this.

 4. Options for timed games
Would not use this.

 5. Options for undo settings
Might like this.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Might be fun.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Would be nice.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I don't need this.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Animations are fine as they are.

10.A Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Fine as is.

10. Option to hide the log
Would not use

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Currently use Androminion

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Have Android

13. Downloadable game logs
Would not use

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Can you make it so exiting the game causes you to "resign".  Many times people exit the game without resigning so I have to sit there.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Probably a good idea.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Probably a good idea
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Thom Blake.0000 on 11 January 2018, 07:46:17 PM
Quote
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I don't particularly care about whether the client is offline, but campaigns against bots could be cool.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

This does not seem important

 3. A strong bot.

This would be great.

 4. Options for timed games

I don't care.

 5. Options for undo settings

I don't know what this means but I probably don't care about this.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Don't care.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Don't care.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Don't care.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

In general I think the fewer animations the better. I want just enough to see what is going on, and I would likely turn off as many visual effects as possible.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

I haven't noticed this as a problem.

10. Option to hide the log

I don't care. I actually use the log pretty frequently, since I play fast enough that I can't see the cards for things like Mystic, and need to refer to the log for that.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

This might be cool but most likely I wouldn't download it.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

No

13. Downloadable game logs

This would be great - even just the ability to read the log after playing. A lot of the time I'm like "What just happened?" and then I can't see what happened, especially since I play on the fastest speed I can manage.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I don't care.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I don't care.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I don't care.

One feature you didn't mention that would be cool, is an option to have the game pause and wait for confirmation when revealing a card

username: "Thom Blake.0000"
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Xwp on 11 January 2018, 07:47:34 PM
Hi, my username is XWP and I like to play dominion online and real Games in the evening with friends....

And now, here s my feedback:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
   I would use it sometimes
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   Yes
 3. A strong bot.
  different strength of bots would be nice
 4. Options for timed games
    I don't understand this Option...
 5. Options for undo settings
   current options are ok by me
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
   oh yes, that is cool
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
   definitely yes
 8. More translations (to what language?)
   no
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
   animations are fine, but it would be good to see if Action, Attack or Treasure,
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
   this would be great...
10. Option to hide the log
   yes I would use this
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
   don't need it
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
  yes iPhone and iPad
13. Downloadable game logs
   don't need that
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
   yes!
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
   yes for beginners...
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
dont need it anymore....:)

my username: XWP
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: faust on 11 January 2018, 08:00:00 PM
Hi Stef. My usename is faust and I'd be hapy to provide some feedback. Overall I'm quite happy with the status quo, it work nicely for me. The main thing I am missing is game logs (will address this in more detail), and the option to automate undos.

One thing I'll say beforehand that doesn't really appear on the list is autoplay. I like the feature, but it could definitely be extended to more cards. Frequently I'd play a game and think 'would be nice to have an autoplay here'. Of course now they don't come to mind. One simple example that is not yet implemented is Explorer; always reveal Province. But there are a ton that you'd maybe only want in a specific game (now I never want to discard to Hamlet again; I always want to use my Pawns for that, etc.), but it would be convenient to have them in those cases.

Onto the points:


1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I did occasionally play the (revised) campaigns on MF. They were fun challenges and if they are designed intelligently (not just grinding execises), they could be good fun. But to be honest I would not pay extra for that as I would not use it enough.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.

Currently I'm never playing bots. If there were good bots, that might change... probably not though. I prefer human opponents. But now, when nobody's around, I still wouldn't even consider a bot game as it is simply not challenging.

4. Options for timed games
I would not use that. It might help keep some impatient players away from my games though, which would be good.

5. Options for undo settings
That's a big point. I think undo when you do not have extra info should be given by default. Of course some people will want to have different settings, and you could accomodate this. I would like an option to block players who don't allow any undos from my games though. At the very least, I want to be informed about the other player's undo settings before the game starts.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Tournaments often require too much of a time effort for me to be able to participate. I did play the championship, and I might pop in for other tournaments here and there, but it's not much of a priority for me. If it's just mini-tournaments with single-game knockouts, I ight enjoy them... but on the other hand, that's not too different from just looking at the leaderboard.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I basically always play automatch; the only exception are tournament games. So I wouldn't use this feature much.

8. More translations (to what language?)
I don't need them, and I don't know of anyone who is currently not playing who would play if the game was available in another language. I did wonder why there never was a Dutch translation though...

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Well I am not sure if this belongs to this points or the one after, but log-clicking has to go. This is particularly tedious at the start of your turn, and there should be a start-of-turn screen similar to how we have an end-of-turn one, where you can succsessively select the things you want to happen. If that is implemented, it can probably be extended to cases where you make mid-turn decisions on effect ordering, like gaining a Villa with Watchtower in hand.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Well, generally thing should be clickable for more information. Click a split pile to see its cards. Click your set-aside Crypt to see the remaining Treasures. Other visualization is fine for me. Maybe it could be helpful when you make an unconventional choice (Princing a duration or something like that) to have an "are you sure?" screen.

10. Option to hide the log
I would always play with log, so I don't need this.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I do not possess an Android or iPhone nor do I intend to.

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes. YES. Please. Ideally not on a third site, but directly from the client. There may be some privacy issues with other people being able to search your games, so there should be an option to be undetectable for people other than your opponent.
To expand on this, I'd like a replay feature where you put in a game log and can see it played out. I know there is the option to reload gaems right now, but that is clunky and I've never used it.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I feel like overall you're doing a good job there and don't have any complaints.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I already know and would be more likely to teach other people myself, so that's not needed for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Ideally the site would be such that everything you can do is obvious? That is not always the case right now, but usually the posts here on this forum as well as f.ds are enough for me to figure out new features.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: mustang255 on 11 January 2018, 08:02:32 PM
Mustang255

My main desire is an offline client, preferably in the form of an Android app.

These are nice to have, but secondary, and I would be happy to get an earlier release without these than wait for them:

Nothing else on your list is a major concern for me. I have very few games on this client during my 1 year subscription, but tons on Androminion (several/day), so a lot of the multiplayer features are not a big selling point for me, and not having a limited duration subscription is very appealing for me.

If I could ask for unlisted features, I'd like:
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Sandsportfreund on 11 January 2018, 08:04:31 PM
Hello,
my Username is "Sandsportfreund", thanks for thinking on the old ones and giving this option.
In the following my feedback:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
=> Not relevant for me, I'm only playing random games against other Human players.

 4. Options for timed games
=> I'd like that option, comparable to chess only a limited time for players at each turn.

 5. Options for undo settings
=>Not relevant for me

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
=> Nice idea which I would appreciate. Maybe also possible with random players (e.g. like poker platforms)

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)
=> Not relevant for me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
=> I prefer the simple approach without any animations, so im fine with the current ones. Maybe the background can differ from game to game or other skins can be created.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
=> I'd like the option to see the trash and log at one time.

10. Option to hide the log
=> Not relevant for me

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
=> I only play at the notebook, thefore no Apps relevant

13. Downloadable game logs
=> Not relevant

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
=> I'd like a shortenend "no reaction" time for slow players.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
=> Nice option for new ones, but not necessary for me

Additional Feedback:
I really like a simple & fast user interface and game interaction. Therefore I'd focus on that.
In addition I'd appreciate a better Statistic and Ranking section (e.g. showing my total wins, deuce & loss, also ranking points instead of the factor and also information at the and of a game how the result affects the total ranking)

Thanks and BR
Sandsportfreund
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: globetheater on 11 January 2018, 08:12:38 PM
Hi Stef,

My username is globetheater. I had all the expansions for MF and I also bought my subscription for 2017 (didn't realize I could get it for free!) so if I could somehow get a year added as well, that would be swell. I also bought a subscription for the first month of 2018. Here's my feedback:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This would be fun, as long as the bots were challenging (or could ramp up in challenge level).

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I don't really care too much for this - I want a bot who pursues a strategy that wins. I remember the banking bot would just buy treasures even when it wasn't particularly logical to do so.

3. A strong bot.
Really important one. Someone should create a really strong bot that analyzes previous games (the logs are so precise) and perhaps employs a neural net.

4. Options for timed games
Yes please, though some games lend themselves to long turns. I try to be as patient as possible during games, but some people can take so long to move. I think the maximum time between actions should also be shortened (from 4 min or whatever it is to 1 min).

5. Options for undo settings
Most people don't know about the /undo thing, so it would be good to make that into its own button and improve the UI there.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Online mini-tournaments would be awesome - official ones could give out longer subscriptions to the winners. I don't usually play with my friends online so the friend option is not that relevant to me.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I don't really have an opinion on this because I usually play random players.

8. More translations (to what language?)
I have no opinion on this.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I think this is fine as it currently is.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Not being able to see the bottom half of split piles is annoying. When you click on the card, both should pop up.

10. Option to hide the log
I have no opinion on this.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't use an Android, but I think an app is a good idea.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would love an iPhone or iPad app.

13. Downloadable game logs
This would be great for building a bot, or for people who want to analyze their own games, but I don't think it's a priority.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Does the thunderbolt do anything? I've encountered a decent number of chat abusers and slowplayers so I block them, but I'm not sure if anything is done to them if they end up with a lot of thunderbolts. Players with more thunderbolts could somehow be marked.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I'm not sure this is necessary as most people start with the physical cards. Can't hurt to have this available though.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
This would be helpful, especially for some lesser known features (hover over name card to see mat cards, /undo feature, etc.).

Best,
globetheater
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: phoenix9797 on 11 January 2018, 08:19:20 PM
Hi Stef--
   Thanks for extending this offer.  I'm happy to give my thoughts on your asking points:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Not crucial for me.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Not crucial for me.

 3. A strong bot.
Not crucial for me.

 4. Options for timed games
Extremely important!  In particular with respect to timing, there needs to be a "force resign" option for disconnection issues.  Even if it takes someone's computer 3 minutes to boot and reconnect, I don't want to sit around waiting for that to happen.  I suggest 30 seconds, followed by a prompt, when the opponent has disconnected.  That's enough time to log back in and continue if the issue was an inadvertent browser-closing (or something).  If it's a full-on reboot scenario, the opponent simply needs to be okay with resigning in that instance.

 5. Options for undo settings
I believe that the default should be "no undo available if information was gained."  This default could be toggled to "off" to reflect the current undo procedure, if the players are playing a casual game.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be great.  Particularly, it could foster actual in-person table top play for the game, which could be revolutionary for it, because currently the table-top (original) game takes a LONG time (compared to online) to set up and play.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Would be great for the idea outlined in #6.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not crucial for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
This could use some improvement.  I see all of the actions on my opponent's turn, but not on mine; other times, I need to check the log just to see what happened.  Speedy motions that convey what's happening would be great.  Old Goko was actually really good in this respect.

A second REALLY important item: PLEASE REMOVE the "actions / buys / coins" count for my opponent from on top of the kingdom cards during my opponent's turn.  There is ample space off to the side for a permanent counter of this sort; it is very frustrating to try and look at the kingdom cards (And plan my next turn) when the opponent's counters keep popping up all over the cards.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, a better view of what's on mats would be very nice.
 
10. Option to hide the log
This would be nice.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not crucial for me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not crucial for me.  But improved performance for the iPad would be nice.

13. Downloadable game logs
Would be nice.  Would be extra nice if the downloaded log could be fed through the actual game interface to "replay" the game, play-by-play, with arrows to click through the turns and moves.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I haven't encountered chat abuse for a while (although I've blacklisted A LOT of players early on for it, and I occasionally still run into a slow-player.  Slow-playing can be handled by implementing the timer (see #4).

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not crucial for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not crucial for me.

Thanks!  (Username: phoenix9797)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Malta on 11 January 2018, 08:20:16 PM
I bought an extension for my subscription already, but would be interested in the extra half year.

Personal wishes:
More customization of the games has always been high on my wishlist. Could be adjusting kingdom size and number of empty piles that will end the game, increasing number of cards in the VP piles, removing Province end option if Colony is present.
Standard options that will be there when you return to the site again.
Communication or at least some kind of interaction with the people you know in the game, so you can more easily set up games with them. Maybe also a "reserve for friend" option on the setup screen, so you don't have to kick out strangers that are faster than the friend you're there to play with. :-)

1) Would be fun. I miss that.
2) Definitely something that would make it more fun.
3) Certainly good, though if the AI is improved enough, it may also be necessary to give newer players the option of playing against a bot around the current level.
4) Probably not too crucial for me personally.
5) Would be nice.
6) Sounds good, but also like something that might be complicated and take time away from more important tasks.
7) I guess I already asked for that in my personal wishes.
8) Personally, I don't need it. You could try doing a Klingon translation for the trekkies. ;-)
9) Hm... Not sure this is badly needed.
10) I think these may be good enough already, but if it's not too much work, perhaps.
The other 10: Not a priority in my book.
11) Cool, though it may be a lot more difficult enjoying the game on the phone with the limitations it presents.
12) Don't have that.
13) Interesting. Would be a nice bonus.
14) So no more panzer9 types? That would be nice. :-) But the blacklist does at least help a lot.
15-16) Not on my wishlist. Perhaps just link to http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/ and similar sources instead?
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Tignasse Verte on 11 January 2018, 08:21:52 PM
Hello,
my Username is Tignasse Verte
Here are my comments.


1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I definitively want to play campaigns againsh bots.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, that will change the games, I guess.
I wonder what the different play styles would be, though. Agressive ? Builder ?

3. A strong bot.
Yes, there is a need of a strong bot, if a strng bot means a smarter bot.
For ex : when the chapel is in play, the current bot will always buy the chapel first, whenever the cost is. Even if the bot has 5 coppers, it will buy it 5 copper, such a waste.
Do actual bots knows that after 5 coppers the first time you always got 2 coppers the second time ?
(and the same with 3/4 and 4/3 ?)

4. Options for timed games
What do tou mean by timed game ? The entirely game is timed, or each round is timed, or else both ?
For bot games I don't really see the point. For games against human, it could sort out afk humans.

5. Options for undo settings
I am not for that kinf of things. You missclick, your fault. End of the story.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I don't really mind, I am more a anti-bot player ;-)

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Same as 6.

8. More translations (to what language?)
I don't need it, I guess.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I don't care, the current animations are ok for me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Same as 9. ok for me.

10. Option to hide the log
Could be handy, but not a must have.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't need it.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't need it.

13. Downloadable game logs
Whether I feel the need to have log, I should copy and paste...

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I am more an anti-bot gamer for now, so I skip this one.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I don't need it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I don't need it (at least for the current version... who knows !).
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: cw123 on 11 January 2018, 08:27:29 PM
Hello

My user name is jewofsteel.

Thanks for the generous offer.

I work in higher education and I use your site to play a quick game of dominion to clear my head between classes.

I don't want anything but quick way to play a good game.  I think you've done a great job to date, and I don't have many suggestions for you because I'm good with where you're at.

I find the interface easy.  I like the back ground.  I mute the sounds.  I don't chat much.  I have no interest in quests.  I occasionally play the bot.  It's fine.  Not the sharpest player, but fine.

So I totally understand if this level of feedback doesn't qualify me for a few more months with expansions --I'm sorry I can't afford a subscription right now.  We have some unfortunate medical bills due.

Basically I like what you've done.  I wouldn't change a thing.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: thechick on 11 January 2018, 08:35:02 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

This would be great for since a lot of friends that I play with are in different timezones.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Not really applicable to me.

 3. A strong bot.

Really not something I care about.

 4. Options for timed games

This would be incredibly useful for games with random players. Ticket To Ride and other online board games have it and it is a very useful feature.

 5. Options for undo settings

I would use this with friends. With random players I can imagine it being easily abused.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Yes and yes. This for play with friends.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Again this would be wonderful for play with friends. It is a pain to have to kick random players when I am waiting to play with a specific person.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Not useful for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Not particularly useful. Also it would slow the game down.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Not important to me.

10. Option to hide the log

Also not important.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

This would be wonderful. It was one of the reasons I gave money to previous versions of Dominion.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

This would be great so long as players on different platforms can play the game together.

13. Downloadable game logs

unimportant to me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I think that the timed games would take care of most of this problem. Slow players are annoying.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

The playthrough tutorial in the last version of Dominion was incredibly useful for introducing the game to new people.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

This could easily be the same implementation as the How To play Dominion tutorial.

Username Thechick
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Horist on 11 January 2018, 08:36:08 PM
Username: Horist

Important to me from your list:
1. Option for timed games
2. Iphone App
3. A strong Bot

Also important to me:
4. Change how 3p works slightly in leaver situations.  With a stronger bot in play, the winner can get the win+bonus (like 1.5), the 2nd place person a win, and the quitter 2.5 lost.
5. Implement a "I am here" function (kind of like the "start game") where if when the game starts if a player doesn't click it within 30seconds the game is over and give something like a half win and half lost to the 2 players.  It it slightly annoying to wait the full time to make someone resign who never will play 1 turn.
6.  A global chat log, similar to GOKO.  I understand this would require people to moderate, but I really miss this.

Besides my wish list, I really enjoy playing on the client.  Thanks for all your work.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: SkyHard on 11 January 2018, 08:41:28 PM
Username: SkyHard

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

An absolute must for me.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Would be really nice.

 3. A strong bot.

Would be nice.

 4. Options for timed games

I don't need it.

 5. Options for undo settings

Don't care.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I don't need it.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Needed.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

I don't need it.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Yes!

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes!

10. Option to hide the log

Yes.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Would be nice.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I don't need it.

13. Downloadable game logs

Nice to have.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I don't need it.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Would be nice.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I don't need it.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Matt Arnold on 11 January 2018, 08:59:59 PM
My MF username was matt dot mattarn at g m a i l dot com. My priorities in order of preference, most valuable first:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

2. Option to invite specific players to your table

3. Options for undo settings (An autoplay setting to auto-grant undo requests, unless my opponent drew cards or otherwise learned information)

4. Improved Android compatibility (in the Android web browser rather than an app, ideally)

5. "Grand Tour" Card Selection Option. I want to play with all the possible cards as often as possible, and minimize how often I play multiple games in a row with some cards the same as in the last game. The purpose of the Grand Tour button in the card selection screen is to treat the card selection screen like a deck of blue-backed randomizer cards, with a discard pile for randomizer cards that have been used in previous games, a set of randomizer cards to be used in this game, and a draw pile with randomizer cards that have not been used but will be in a future game. Depleting that pile ends the "Grand Tour", and shuffles the discard to start a new draw pile.


6. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... (Specifically, a great big IT IS NOT YOUR TURN signal, like a different-colored background behind your hand. This indicates while you were responding to that text, the bot just played Bishop or Masquerade, so you might not want to click your best Action.)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Willemien on 11 January 2018, 09:04:32 PM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Mostly appreciate, that was what I liked a lot in the old game.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
rather a bot that adjust to your level of playing, so you'll win about 40% off the games.
 3. A strong bot.
see point 2.
 4. Options for timed games
no need
 5. Options for undo settings
Only if you didn't got a new card (other wise you now that it was a bad choice)
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
No need for me
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
no need for me
 8. More translations (to what language?)
Dutch would be nice, but I understand English also.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not better, but more vissble, I have to look in the log a lot to see what happend.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
yes please! And also the trash pile, native, pirate coins.
10. Option to hide the log
Yes
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
iPad please
13. Downloadable game logs
don't know what you mean.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes, that's why I rather play with bot's, faster and not leaving the game.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
no need for me
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
no need for me

With the tournament the bot never buys the special cards. And also the bot is not very smart in trashing cards (doesn't use the remodel, sentry, ratchatcher and the raze), also he doesn't use Page and Peasant. When all the curses are gone the bot still discards 2 cards from his hand when you play the forturer, instead of choicing a curse.

Greetings Willemien (also my user name)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: neatlynoted on 11 January 2018, 09:07:32 PM
Hi! Thanks for extending the free time; I super appreciate it. My username is neatlynoted.

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1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
YES! This is my #2 request.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
As in, the Bot tries the capitalist "buy silvers then golds then provinces" strategy, vs tries the "some form of village and some form of smithy" strategy, vs tries that "ambassador ambassador" strategy, that kind of play style? Sure, that would be super neat. Like "risk-averse bot" and "confrontational curse-dealing bot".

3. A strong bot.
Yes, I would very much appreciate this.

4. Options for timed games
Nah, it works fine for me as it is.

5. Options for undo settings
Nah, it works fine for me as it is.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Eh, I'm more interested in one-off games than in tournaments.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, this would be very helpful! I have one or two friends that I'd like to be easily able to connect with, and I don't like feeling rude when I displace strangers who want to sit down at a random table.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Not relevant to me personally.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Nah, it's working fine for me as it is.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Being able to see the other half of the split would really help.

10. Option to hide the log
No, I love the log.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not relevant for me personally.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES, PLEASE! This is my #1 request.

13. Downloadable game logs
Nah, I probably wouldn't use it.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Fortunately, not something I've interacted with much. I only play with friends or bots.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Nah, my friends and I know how to play. :-)

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think the interface is super easy to read.

Thanks, and keep us all posted if you need more feedback (e.g. in poll format)!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: WhyMan on 11 January 2018, 09:10:45 PM
Hello, Stef:

I enjoy the game, thanks for making it. My username is the same as my forum username.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
    I usually have readily available online access, so it is not important to me.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   I play exclusively with bots. Anything to change them up would be great.
 3. A strong bot.
  I play exclusively with bots. Anything to change them up would be great.
 4. Options for timed games
  Timed games stress me out, so no.
 5. Options for undo settings
   They seem fine the way they are.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
   Sounds neat, but I would not likely use it.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
   I might actually play other people with this option.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
   Sadly, I only read English. Pig Latin?
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
   After playing a lot of consecutive games, it would be nice if I could speed up the animations to blast through the games faster. I typically use the logs to see what the other players did on their turns if I need to know.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
   Sure
10. Option to hide the log
  I read the log during a game a lot, so no.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
   I would be excited for a good cellphone optimization.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
   I would be excited for a good cellphone optimization.
13. Downloadable game logs
   I am ambivalent to the logs once the game is done.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
   I do not typically play with people, but on another online game I played, the other players could vote out a missing player. Once they got voted out a 2 minute timer would start, and if the player didn't make a play during that time, they got booted.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
   I don't need it, but I could see its value.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
   Something not too elaborate would be nice.

Cheers
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: bananny on 11 January 2018, 09:13:04 PM
I'm Bananny :)  I've used this name since Dominion was a free game on some guy's personal server years ago ;)  I also already (painfully) paid for 2018, so a 6 month extension would be nice please!  I wish this would have come up sooner before I had to pay :(

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - Yes, yes, yes!  I would love this!

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles & 3. A strong bot. - Yes again!  The current AI is weak and even though I am still entertained, a stronger challenge or alternate strategies with my pre-con decks would be really fun!

4. Options for timed games - Meh, I don't think I'd ever use this.

5. Options for undo settings - I like having undo while I'm playing AI because they're practice games and don't count for anything.  I think that undo should be limited to ONE when playing a live person.  I don't care if you misclicked.  If you're playing live, you should be paying attention to what you're doing out of respect for your opponent.  I've always allowed one just to be nice and that's it.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. - This would be great!  I would definitely enjoy giving this a try :)  I think you should also give the option to allow players you don't know to enter your tournaments with parameters to block people that have been reported X amount of times by others or narrow down player levels to your specifications.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table - YES!  I have been talking to my friends that I play Magic the Gathering with about Dominion and getting them on the same table as me to teach them would be awesome!  Pulling out my physical expansions and setting it up is such a hassle.

8. More translations (to what language?) - Not an issue for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... 10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... 10. Option to hide the log - - No offense, but the platform that MF built was way better.  It looked a lot more professional.  I know nothing about programming, so I don't have any clear suggestions for how you can improve it.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - Yes please!  I play on my tablet frequently and the browser gets annoying.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - Not relevant to me.

13. Downloadable game logs - I doubt I will use this.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - I rarely play live people because most of them suck, so not relevant to me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion & 16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - I think this would be great for new players to get them into the game.  I doubt I'll use it.


I would also like to have the ability to save my kingdoms and load them quickly.  I have them manually typed out to copy and paste into the select kingdom cards screen, but that gets really annoying and is a huge pain in the butt on my tablet.  PLEASE add this feature!

Once we have an offline client, does this mean the subscription would only have to be paid if we wanted to play online against others?  Once we own this software, are we set for life and will receive software updates like other programs we own?

I'm sorry I've been salty to you previously about paying for the subscription.  I know it's not your fault.  I appreciate what you have done and I'm really excited for the offline client!  Thank you :)

Last but not least, since I play bots frequently, I'd be happy to volunteer to play test any bot ideas you have.  That would be fun :)  I'm not the most amazing Dominion player, but I'm not bad ;)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: crymeariver on 11 January 2018, 09:27:12 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - yes, the previous campaigns were interesting and challenging, but no need for a separate offline platform

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - Yes, one which attacks, one which goes for big money usually, and so on. Diverse playstyles make the game more interesting as you're always thinking in the end "I should have just gone big money and this would have been faster"

 3. A strong bot. - The ones in the original MF campaigns were quite good.

 4. Options for timed games - I don't care much of it, the current options are sufficient.

 5. Options for undo settings - Current options work well, or we can have undo button disabled when cards have been drawn. Though that has it's own complications though.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.  - Yes this would be very good.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table - Yes, or even enable creation of leagues and people from that league can invite each other

 8. More translations (to what language?) - I'm happy with English, not sure which other language sells most Dominion copies

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... - Current animations are fast and good.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... - Yes, hard to see sometimes what you have on your mat (island) or what is the value of your miser card.

10. Option to hide the log - Does not matter to me

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - I would not play it on a small screen

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - I would not play it on a small screen

13. Downloadable game logs - I'm not that scientific about my gameplay.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - ability to report a player who quits too soon, or plays slow deliberately

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - not needed in my opinion

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - not needed in my opinion
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Gertrude5 on 11 January 2018, 09:30:57 PM
This is Gertrude5. Here is the list of features I’d like:
1. An offline client with a bot with different settings
2. The ability to choose “ allow undo”or don’t allow undo.
3. An option to invite specific players to my table.
4. Visualization of split piles as well as hexes and spirit cards. I play on an IPad and can’t see those things until I’m ready to buy them. Would like to see them in advance.
5. One thing not on your list....bring back possession or at least allow it as an option.
Thanks for giving us this opportunity for feedback.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: RedMcC on 11 January 2018, 09:31:21 PM
Hi Stef,

My two cents worth:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots /
   - if it was combined with a strong bot and was sufficiently standard to be rated that would be good, but not essential.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   Even better would be a Bot that analysed a human players strategy and modified the bot-tactics as required.

3. A strong bot.
   Stong bot is a good bot!

4. Options for timed games
   Yes two different implementations spring to mind:
    A. Each player gets a total time of x mins (ie. I just want a game that is between x -2x minutes long)
    B. No player can spend more than say 2mins more than the other player throughout the entire game (ie. penalise go-slow players).  This then allows for more complicated decks that do actually take more time per turn.

5. Options for undo settings
    Sounds reasonable (always allow, allow if no cards drawn, never allow etc...)

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

That would be a fun addition.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
   Not of use for me

8. More translations (to what language?)
   Hasn't been a major issue for me as an English speaker...

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
   don't care   

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
    Yes, Archive implementatoin as a priority!

10. Option to hide the log
    only to show something else briefly...

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
    Apple user here
   

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
    Not sure how an iPhone App would work...  iPad - sure :)

13. Downloadable game logs
    not a big one for me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
    I've had a few issues with this but never bothered reporting as it seemed too hard...  So yes!

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
    sure...

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
    Sure...

My username: RedMcC
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Dawn Patrol on 11 January 2018, 09:36:18 PM
Dawn Patrol here. I would love to get a 6 month extension. I bought and played Intrigue, Alchemy, Prosperity, Cornucopia, and Guilds expansions.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots.
-- Not that interested. The online versions works just fine for me.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles.
3. A strong bot.

-- Yes, some variation in the bots would be nice. I did mostly bot play, which is much faster. Bots AI does some dumb things: buy Mint on first turn, obsess on buying Apothecary cards to the exclusion of anything else, buy Sauna but never the split Avanto cards. So smarter bots would be nice. Or faster people.

4. Options for timed games.
-- That sounds interesting. It would speed up non-bot play, wouldn't it?

5. Options for undo settings.
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table.

-- Not interested in 5, 6, 7.

8. More translations (to what language?)
-- Non.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
-- No, just slows down game play.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
-- After the first game play, splits are not a problem.

10. Option to hide the log.
-- How about an improved log with a chart that would show cards purchased by each player/bot? That just summarizes info already available in the log, but who wants to spend 5 minutes figuring out how many City cards the bot bought?

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs.

-- Nope to these.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
-- Never really had a problem.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

-- Not needed.

Other:
-- Easier way to chat with opposing player would be nice.

Thanks! Look forward to upgrades.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Rhun on 11 January 2018, 09:36:50 PM
Username: Rhun

1. An offline client is not a necessity for me. I appreciate much the human intelligence and versatility.

2. Cf 1. I do not believe that a strong bot can really confront human. Maybe with learning algorithms ? What is your IA ?

3. If you think it is possible :) Some IA becomes champion at go.

4. Not really.

5. I do not need as there is no serious reward in the ladder (free subscription for beat player as a sponsoring ?).

6. why not. Could be fun.

7. Naah. I got no friend.

8. Maybe french.

9. I cant see anything on my phone. So...

10. The split card description could be improved.

10. No, let the log ! It contains major informations.

11. Yes ! Yes ! Yes !

12. No ! No ! No ! (Jocking, but still no).

13. I will never DL anything.

14. Maybe a mute button. But its use would be quite rare.

15. 16. No and no. But it will not help gathering new players.

About the price: you should also ask things here. I am definitely sure that there will be some troubles: now I am waiting for game because every one want extention in their game. Few people with high price or a lot of people at low price ?
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ltj on 11 January 2018, 09:37:17 PM
Hi Stef,

First I'd like to say it's amazing that you are looking for feedback. I was super upset when the game went from one time purchase to yearly subscription so I'm happy to help in any way as a fan of Dominion.

Most of your questions seem to ask about 'options'. Options are always good and rarely ever a negative. Some questions, such as which languages would be purely based on your clientele and the number of them signed up, of which I cannot intelligently answer.
For offline play, that is a nice option but I like playing people as that is the best setting for 'bots with different play styles' Yes various levels of bots are great.
I would rarely ever play a timed game but again, options are good if they are cost effective.

Tournaments are a great idea. When it comes to friends I can say this. I have a group of friends that would not sign on/up if they didn't have access to all the cards. So if everyone needed to own everything in order to play, that would not get my friends online. However, if we could all play using all the cards that one person owns, that gets them online and from there people would eventually buy their own copies. If you get them online, they are more likely to stay.

I like the graphics currently and I understand how everything plays.

Being smartphone accessible is great either improved compatibility or app.

Having a tutorial is always good for new players.

Hope that helps and isn't too long :)
LTJ
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Oyvind on 11 January 2018, 09:40:53 PM
My username is Oyvind, and I think it was ØyvindSchiøtt at MF. I had to change it because of the Norwegian characters, so now I’m just Oyvind. I’m one of those who had everything that was available at the time on Making Fun. I have a gold subscription currently as well.

OK, here I go:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, please! I love campaign style games.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Cool, but in no way necessary.

 3. A strong bot
I really do hope for that!

 4. Options for timed games
Nah, it wouldn’t matter to me.

 5. Options for undo settings
Yes, if you by that mean that you can auto-grant if someone hasn’t gleaned new information and auto-deny if someone has.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Sounds great!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not for ranked play, but for friendlies, yes please.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not necessary to me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I don’t know about better, but clearer would be swell!

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, please. I forget things like that all the time, and it’s unfortunate having to go through the log to find info like that.

10. Option to hide the log
I’m perfectly fine with the log visible, but if you get to place more info on the screen, like additional cards that would be visible IRL, I’m all for it!

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No such device at the moment, so, no.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
An app would be amazing! I love the idea! And for iPad, even more!

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes, that would be very nice.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I have no problem with that myself.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
If 16 comes to fruition, I don’t see a need for it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online
I wouldn’t need it myself, but if you want to grow the customer base, this is sorely needed! I’d say that any self-respecting game company should have a tutorial for all their games, physical or digital. A couple of my friends not familiar with Dominion already have tried it, and they just gave up...

That being said, I think you’ve done a fantastic job with this assignment. There’s still a couple of things I’d love to see, though, and that is to be able to play with Possession again, if the opponents haven’t banned it personally. I’d love to be able to play with Stash too, even if it isn’t that good. And finally, and to me more importantly: Have options to search for 4p, 5p or 6p games! Without all the set-up time and quicker turns (compared to IRL playing), I see no reason why multiplayer games wouldn’t work in a digital game. I prefer playing multiplayer games IRL, and that should be easier, not more difficult, to do digitally.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Merry on 11 January 2018, 09:45:44 PM
Stef,

(Name is pizowned in client)

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
While I prefer to play online, good campaigns would also be really fun. However, I DON'T think the previous way of making campaigns was fun (giving the bots Silvers instead of Coppers or Provinces instead of Estates, etc.). Better bots is the solution (see below).

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would be nice, but not necessary. The best way would be to train the bots on each kingdom and have a competitive bot! Reinforcement learning, likely. This is challenging, but way worth it (it could even make bots better than good Dominion players) if you can get some outside help implementing it. This would allow all sorts of bot difficulties based on how much they were trained on a kingdom.

3. A strong bot.
This would be awesome if you could use Reinforcement Learning (see above) to train bots.

4. Options for timed games
Cool, but I don't know how much I would like it.

5. Options for undo settings
I like the way they are now.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Really cool, I think me and the community would love this.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
The current way is fine, though it can be annoying sometimes to have random players join all the time.

8. More translations (to what language?)
English is fine for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
This would help me a bit, but otherwise a better log (i.e. choices on Pawn, Amulet, etc.) which details ALL player selections would be much better.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, very helpful. All of these would be a great improvement.

10. Option to hide the log
Not needed, for me.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not needed.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not needed.

13. Downloadable game logs
This would be really fun to have. Especially to where we can go back and look at previous games we've played and check out the logs.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
As long as the "block" feature works as intended, I don't see a huge need. Slowplayers are the WORST...I hope that when they are found to be slowplaying they are banned for a long time.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not useful for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not useful for me.

17. Other
Improved stats would be really nice. Like wins/losses from the last 10 games, stats on card openings, stats on how many times a card is bought when it is in the kingdom, etc.

Thanks Stef! Hopefully you get what you need :)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: nocto on 11 January 2018, 09:46:36 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Not essential, it’d be nice but I probably wouldn’t get full use out if it unless it was a good story in its own right.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Not bothered. I like playing humans.

 3. A strong bot.

Not bothered. I like playing humans.

 4. Options for timed games

Maybe, not essential.

 5. Options for undo settings

Something like “only allow undo if no new info has been revealed” and only one step. I always let people undo but have only used it myself when I’ve accidentally ended my turn without buying or similar. Also move “view trash” away from “undo”, I’ve clicked undo when all I wanted to do was see what was in the bin.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Something I would quite like to join in with. But without having to have friends.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Not interested really.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

English is fine by me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I missed the fancy sparkles on the old app, but wouldn’t especially want them back. I would like the animations to go at the same speed and make sense all the time, sometimes the game seems to end and I haven’t seen the last province bought (and that was how it ended) and the animation when my opponent swaps the teacher/champion set of cards seem opaque to me too.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

The thing I would like most. I don’t see why I can’t see the Settler & the Bustling Village when I click on the pile anyway? I don’t want to see the whole Black Market deck or anything but “which of the tournament prizes are left” would be about right.

10. Option to hide the log

Last year I would have said yes, but now I would prefer it to work better. I’d like to be able to click on the card names and see the cards in question. I’d like to be able to collapse the turns to make it easier to navigate. I’d like to be able to see my opponent’s rating without scrolling right back to the top.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Not for me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

iPad app would be great, but the web app is now pretty decent. I’d prioritize a better interface for everyone on the web over an app to be honest.

13. Downloadable game logs

I wouldn’t want to use them myself particularly, I would like there to be options that enable others to build tools for analysis though, extended versions of what the scavenger site does now.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Not had much problem with either.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not for me, though I think it would be useful to bring in new subscribers.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Not for me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Dav3ywav3y on 11 January 2018, 09:52:54 PM
Dav3ywav3y

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, that sounds like it could be interesting. Cos since I lost the expansions, the Bots have just been Council-Room-spamming their way through every game, and it's got really really boring. Might be nice to try something different.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Again, could be interesting, but with only the Base Set to play with, it'd still get old fast. I've had the card version and the previous online version, he's not having my money again for this new version.

3. A strong bot.
Improved AI is long needed. Some of the things they do are just ridiculous.

4. Options for timed games
Not something that interests me.

5. Options for undo settings
Not something that interests me.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not something that interests me.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Sounds like a reasonable feature, and something I might use.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Not something I'd use.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I'm satisfied with the current ones.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Would be useful for cards I don't know already, but once learned it wouldn't have much effect. I wouldn't want you to focus on this one at the expense of other features above.

10. Option to hide the log
Not something I'd use.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not something I'd use.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not something I'd use.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not something that interests me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I generally play against Bots or against people I know, so this wouldn't be something that would impact me much. But if I was to play with random players, I'd want to know I'd be backed up if something turned nasty. It's generally the reason I don't play random players!

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not something I'd use.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not something I'd use, now I've learnt it already. Might have been useful at the start to get the hang of the interface.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: smutje on 11 January 2018, 09:53:50 PM
. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
good idea
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
yes
 3. A strong bot.
i think the bots are strong enough
 4. Options for timed games
not for me
 5. Options for undo settings
okay for me
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
i dont want to play tournaments
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
yes please
 8. More translations (to what language?)
there a translation in german thats enough for me
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
no
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
yes please
10. Option to hide the log
no i never hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
yes please !!!!
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

13. Downloadable game logs
i dont need them
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
no
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
no
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
no

I like dominion

Smutje
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Peter on 11 January 2018, 09:57:55 PM
Hi,

my username: Peter

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Would be nice.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Would be nice.

3. A strong bot.
Would be nice.

4. Options for timed games
I don't care.

5. Options for undo settings
Would be nice.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I don't care.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Absolutely necessary!

8. More translations (to what language?)
I don't care.
 
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Would be nice.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Would be nice.

10. Option to hide the log
I don't care.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't care.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't care.

13. Downloadable game logs
I don't care.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I don't care.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I don't care.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I don't care.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: dadalu on 11 January 2018, 09:59:24 PM
Just losing all the sets I had purchased over time has been frustrating. I preferred how it used to be possible to purchase one set at a time – which meant I spent a small amount at a time plus it helped to get acquainted with the new cards, rather than having to buy for a silver or gold subscription – where my only option is to buy a short subscription if I don’t want wo spend so much.

Comments on your points:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
… would be a good option. On the old platform, I used to play campaigns off and on.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
… good idea, but not so vital.
 3. A strong bot.
… good idea, but not so vital.
 4. Options for timed games
Not something I miss
 5. Options for undo settings
Not something I miss
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not something I miss
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Never thought about that
 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not something I need; I never changed to playing in my mother tone.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not something I miss
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
The one thing I would find helpful it so be able to see the bottom card of a split pile; as I don’t own these I don’t see them that often, so I tend to forget
10. Option to hide the log
Might be handy when playing on my netbook
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
At this point I don’t need it
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
As I don’t own an iPhone…
13. Downloadable game logs
Not something I would need
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
What has been annoying lately (before I lost my purchased cards): people who only want to play basic but don’t resign but just drop
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I personally have no need for that
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I personally have no need for that

thanks!
dadalu
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: peetar on 11 January 2018, 10:03:33 PM
I'm glad to help you with this, i f you want to credit my account for the feed back it's: "peetar"

Note: I have not read any of the other replies, and although I've joined the discord a few times, I've been pretty disengaged from the community. 99% of the games I play are either against my wife or friends I'm in the same room with, or during lunch break to kill a few minutes.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I wouldn't use this unless it was on android. If I'm on my computer, I'm online.  Occasionally I still play the un-offical Android app "Androminion" to kill some time because it's quick and easy.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Giving the various bots different AI might be interesting. Allowing users to help improve existing AI or write their own would be really exciting! Imagaine a tournament of bots!

 3. A strong bot.

I'd like to see the bot AI improved. Stomping bots is nice and relaxing, but sometimes they make moves so stupid it's frustrating.

 4. Options for timed games

wouldn't use

 5. Options for undo settings

current undo is fine for me, but I don't play competatively

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

YES, would use this.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

This makes sense. Sometimes people join my game when I'm waiting for my wife, I feel bad for kicking them

 8. More translations (to what language?)

EN-US here, so I don't care

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I have no complaints here. UX is pretty good except for a few clunky interactions with having to click things in the log.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

There are a couple minor QOL improvements I'm sure you are aware of. Some issues around how boons are displayed. No way to see knights/Black market

10. Option to hide the log

Might help on mobile??

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Tried playing on my phone once, terrible experience. Would use a re-vamped UI version on my phone for sure if the UI was extremely simple (text based like isotropic or Androminion)

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Wife plays exclusivly on i-pad and it works great. She'd occasionally play on iPhone if UI worked

13. Downloadable game logs

Probably wouldn't use, but also seems easy to implment

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Never had problems, but I only play casually.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Would not use

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Would not use


TO sum up my thoughts on Dominion offline:  I really love Androminion. It's a great way to just kill some time and practice against bots. And it has 1/4th the cards and functionality of dominion.games.  If you could easily leverage the code you've written for the logic/cards of the online version and simplified the UI down to text/minimilistic UI I'd play the heck out of it (and probably buy it from the app store).  I don't feel like I have a right to it because I bought all of the cards on MF.  I absolutely HATED that model. But I hate all game models where you pay for virtual goods. I don't mind paying for a subscrption or service. I don't mind paying for an app.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: tassilo2008 on 11 January 2018, 10:04:09 PM
my user name is tassilo2008.  Thanks for this option.

This client improved much over the year but subscription option for one year is much too expensive for me. I could imagine to pay this price for a lifetime option but not for just one year.

If there is any relation between the subscription price and how many new features, options and improvements are implemented then I would choose lower price and not any new features.

It seem I'm the most materialistic here but lower subscription price would have the highest priority for me. Then miles nothing ...then the other point:

0. work on /reduce price of  subscription.
 ad said my highest priority otherwise no chance to keep me here (5/5)

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot.
Do not often play with Bots. Maye I would if there are good campaigns, strong bots and different play styles

4. Options for timed games
sound interesting as I like fast games (4/5)

5. Options for undo settings
it works fine for me as it is. (2/5)

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
not so interesting for my ...I play with everyone who wants to play (2/5)

8. More translations (to what language?)
German and English is enough for me personally (1/5)

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
would be helpful, (4/5)

10. Option to hide the log
I like the log (1/5) but maybe there could be an option to see log an trash at the same time (4/5)

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
not relevant for me (1/5)

13. Downloadable game logs
game log is helpful during the game but why should I download and save ?  (1/5)

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
there was already some improvement with blacklist but still some idiots. If it helps to get rid of them , then yes please (3/5)

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I play Dominion for years an use the interface since beginning, so not needed (1/5)

Additionally maybe some option to mix and save different card decks would be interesting
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: clb on 11 January 2018, 10:07:32 PM
Hi Stef, thank you for this opportunity!

Here are my thoughts on the items you asked about. My username is clb

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I am more interested in the offline play of normal Dominion games against bots (or pass-and-play) than I am campaigns. I likely won't play campaigns, but if there is an offline implementation, I would play that quite a bit.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This is interesting and useful, and I would enjoy playing against bots that emphasized different play styes.

 3. A strong bot.
But this would be preferred over the variety of bots. Lord Bottington is good to have as an opponent, but I would like to play a bot that beats me often enough to help me improve my play.

 4. Options for timed games
I have no interest or need for this.

 5. Options for undo settings
The current undo is fine. There are occasions where I wish I could undo a little more, but I have never wished I could tailor the undo settings.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
sounds fun, but I'd likely not ever use it.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This would be more helpful. I don't think that my family will be buying a subscription, though, so it isn't a high priority for me.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
N/A - English is my first language.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No, thank you.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
No, the visualizations are sufficient, imo.

10. Option to hide the log
That might be nice (provided the log is not needed to complete actions)

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes, this is like the offline option - I would like to be able to get in a game in line like I did with Androminion or the other apps. Though, honestly, I don't anticipate buying a subscription, so if the app doesn't offer a one-and-done purchase, it isn't for me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
N/A

13. Downloadable game logs
I no longer dice into Dominion deeply enough to use logs.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
N/A

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
N/A

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
N/A

Thank you!

Chris (clb)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: dan on 11 January 2018, 10:21:39 PM
Hi Stef!

Shuffle IT username: Dan Brooks

New user experience:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
 8. More translations (to what language?)


It would be nice to have a process for introducing new users to the game.

For example, maybe a user gets a referral to the site, creates an account, and plays through a tutorial that explains the rules and how the site works.

Although I wouldn't use this personally, it would be nice for introducing friends to the site and growing the player base.


Mobile version:
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

The current site is 80% usable on mobile, I play/unrated games on my iphone. With a few tweaks to the layout, I think that the site could be fully useable on mobile. An app release is lower priority for me than some other features.


Moderation:
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
This has gotten better for me in the past few months, although it would be really satisfying to have a "report player" button for when it does happen.



Tournament/Friend Features:
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table


Standardized/automated tournament settings would be really cool. I would play in these for sure.


Game Log:
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Option to hide the log
13. Downloadable game logs


The system as it's currently implemented works, and I don't see much need to change it. I definitely miss downloadable text game logs, and it would be nice to see those come back.


Bots:
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.


Over half my games are against bots, and I think it would be interesting to have a strong one.

I'm working with a few other grad students to build a competitive dominion AI.

Our initial baseline is a base set big money bot that we built a few years ago that focuses on buying good cards (Witch, Gold, Militia, Laboratory, Market, Festival, Smithy, Silver) and Provinces.

Now, we are putting together a model for playing engines. To begin the description, the basic stats on cards, like +2 action, +2 cards or +2 coins, are labeled. The expected draw of a deck is computed, under the assumption that draw cards are evenly distributed through the deck. The expected payload (coins, buys, gains, attacks) is computed based on the number of cards drawn and the availability of actions.

In the mid-game, the model is looking to maximize payload per turn. Early game, trashing is valued at a rate of 3 coins/card. Late game, points become important, as well as checking for pileouts (based on expected payload).

There are two areas in which we are interested in using learning techniques. The first is making tricky play order/buying decisions, such as deciding what card to remodel. Making the decision a few different ways and playing out a bunch of games is probably the best way to figure out spots like this. The second is for optimizing overall bot parameters, such as greening time, for a particular board or a set of boards.

Anyhow, if you're interested in discussing more, let me know.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jschottm on 11 January 2018, 10:26:46 PM
Game account is the same as the user name here.


1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Not at all important. Writing an AI that can play Dominion at a high level is a non-trivial task and playing against cheating AIs bores me.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot

If you can pull it off, sure, but I'd prefer focus be paid to PVP play than AI development.

4. Options for timed games

Indifferent

5. Options for undo settings

An "always allow undo requests" option would be fine, as long as there was the option to turn it off during your turn if someone was abusing it.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Very much want - being able to play with friends that have moved away and I'm unable to play the card game in person with is something that would be really nice.

8. More translations (to what language?)

Unimportant to me but German would be an obvious one to support.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Don't care. I prefer no animations and just to display information quickly to speed up the game.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Important - not being able to see orange cards all the time is annoying. It would also be nice to see the buys/coins that the opponent is generating during their play, as that can affect one's next turn strategy if you know how much they're going to be able to buy.

10. Option to hide the log

Indifferent. I find it useful and have high resolution screens.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Would use if it were well implemented, especially if it were tablet-centric rather than trying to squeeze the game onto a phone. I'd mistarget too often on a phone to really enjoy it.

13. Downloadable game logs

Indifferent

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Thus far it's not been a problem for me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Indifferent, but these questions are going to experienced players who probably can figure it all out.

Two comments:

1. I would really like an option for a house rule of allowing players to select whether they start with a 5/2 or 3/4 coin split. Certain card combinations means that a player that gets a better split is more much likely to win (e.g. Witch and Chapel, especially if the 4 cost cards are weak or don't make good combinations).
2. You might get many more players if the prices were lowered to the point you'd make more money with the same number of players.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: GregDC on 11 January 2018, 10:45:36 PM
First I want to say that I very much appreciate the hard work that has gone into making Dominion online the great game it is!  There are zero people in my area that play/are willing to learn Dominion.  This is the place I come to have the fun of playing this game.  As to your questions, here are my answers to the ones that I have some input for you:

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would really love to see this become a reality!  I agree that the quality of the bots is critical.  And though it is a lot of work, it would be a big bonus if the bot AI could be multi-tiered. 
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I really love this idea.  I use the online Dominion to get my head ready for the Con's I play in, so varying the style would be great.
 3. A strong bot.
I said already being able to pick a bot-level would be excellent.  New players would be able to play against bots that aren't going to beat their butts every time.  The more experienced player gets to pick a challenge worth playing.
 4. Options for timed games
I am rather neutral on this.  I can see that adding the option could increase the challenge, just like a timed game of chess.
 5. Options for undo settings
When playing person to person, I like this.  People, aka me, make less than intelligent plays now and then it is good to have the Undo option.  I would add a request to be able to replay the same kingdom against the same bots to try different styles and strategies.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I currently have no opinion here.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, I like this idea very much.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
I can see the need, but that is a LOT of work to do it right.  Please use native speakers to do the translations.  I only speak/read English, so the current setting is fine for my needs.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I would put this low on the task list.  I find the current animation fine.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
As Dominion expanse with these options better visualization will make the online game playable.
10. Option to hide the log
Again, a low rated task for a change.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)/12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would also put in for compatibility with Windows phones for the dozen or so of us out here that don't bite the Apple.

I really do not have any other input of meaning for you right now.

Again I will thank you for your work!

Greg DC
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Morghas on 11 January 2018, 10:47:04 PM
Hey Steff + team,

I have been playing since goko and am a big fan of your client, definitely the best that I have seen. My user name is 'Morghas' I can never say no to a free 6 months, thanks for the offer, I would have done this anyway though.

For me the main thing about playing Dominion online is to play against real people in a competitive way and that seems to be your priority too, I always find games quickly, the server never drops out, the cards are implemented quickly after expansions, the game looks good and has a fairly intuitive layout. All this is good so if it never changed from now I would still pay for subscriptions.

The main thing that I sometimes have issues with is the log buttons, if decisions (like order of duration effects, or calling ratcatcher) could all be removed from the log and put into the play area that would be great. Also, I know all the spilt piles now, but it definitely feels bad that you cant see or discover what the second card in the split is until it is revealed so that would be a high priority for me.

It seems like bots are a high priority for you and I can see a lot of people have been asking for them in the forum but for me, I will hardly use them. I sometimes work on ships so the offline campaign mode would be good for that but its probably more healthy for me to stop playing dominion for a week or two... I guess I am saying that, I would use the campaigns but it may only be a handful of times for the hell of it, not often, I would also use the strong bot occasionally but again not that often.

Definitely would like to see the options to invite someone to a table, that would be more intuitive and less fiddly that what is currently available. A selective chat option on the main screen would be even better but I imagine that could be a much bigger task and maybe not used that much. I also would like to have tournament options. I love tournaments and organise a few real life tourneys a year. I dont know how much I would use the online tourney but having the option would excite me and I reckon I would use it.

Here is how I would rate things in order according to my wants:

Important:
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

I would use/appreciate:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 3. A strong bot.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 4. Options for timed games

I wouldn't use but can see the value:
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I wouldnt use and and dont care about:
 5. Options for undo settings
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Bishop_Zen on 11 January 2018, 10:49:23 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I have zero interest in this and I doubt I would ever play it. But I might only if it ran on my Android mobile. I have a Samsung A7.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
See answer to #1. I have any interest in playing bots on or off line.

 3. A strong bot.
I'm not motivated to play bots. I just like to try to improve my ranking against other humans.

 4. Options for timed games
Timed games might be great. It could be done something like chess with loosing on time a very real component. On the other hand such a feature might effectively split the community, and even fragment it further. Would it then take so long to find a match that some would quit playing?

 5. Options for undo settings
Yes, this would be good. I've looked for this. It could definitely lead to more happy players if games could be set up to not allow undo at all or only in certain circumstances or only so many many times or steps in a game.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I would not use this. I don't have friends who play Dominion Online other than those I've friended here. And we don't arrange meet ups. I could not and would not schedule Dominion time.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Isn't there a way to message friends? There should be a way to view your friends list and message them while also playing or searching for a game.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I don't have any interest because my first language is English.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
The animations seem fine to me. Perhaps a colour coded log would be a lot more useful to make it much easier to scan for certain events.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, this should be much better displayed. Again the colour coded log could help here, but there should be elements on the main screen that show when there are cards on mats and how many. The interface should in every way possible make the same information as readily available as a game with real cards.

10. Option to hide the log
Well, this might be an interesting option, but I would not join no log games. I don't want to have to monitor animations that closely and have to concentrate so much on remembering stuff. It would, however, make for faster more challenging games, and together with time controls it might be something I would come to prefer. It would actually be more like a game with real cards. I've never played with real cards with log keeping! On the other hand this could also split the community and make it much harder to find a match.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I think improved compatibility would be enough. I've never been able to play on my mobiles, Note 3, J7 prime, and now A7, but I guess I've not yet tried on the A7 and maybe I never did on the J7.
 
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't have one or plan to get one.

13. Downloadable game logs
The ability to save, review, and share game logs would be great! Just the ability to copy and paste them would be the best! How about odds calculation in game logs! Maybe not in game, but something that could be run when reviewing. It could be optional in game.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
It would be great to see ratings on other players based on how many others have them black listed or how many times they have timed out. In auto matches there should be an option to see these ratings as well as ranking and accept or reject matches.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
User created tutorials would be great! They should be like presentations and there should be a searchable data base for certain cards and combinations of cards to find the tutorials one is interested in. There should be an tutorial creation facility where one can play a mock game with a custom set, or reuse/walk through a previous game, back to the saved logs, or simply lay out one or more cards, and provide text or audio comments. Odds calculation would be a great part of this. In case it's not clear what I mean by odds calculation, I mean shuffle odds. As each card is drawn or reveled from the deck what are odds that it is that card. This should calculated only against the draw pile, i.e. the last card in the draw pile before shuffling would always be 100%, but it would also useful to know in the whole deck a cards frequency.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
As for a basic tutorial, I don't think I would have ever been interested. As for an advanced tutorial covering features that are not likely to be discovered by just looking around, yes. I still don't remember how to do the multiple steps undo that some use. Is there other command line like code available? Also hovering for info and right clicking for card auto default settings might not be discovered for some time.

I'm posting with my username, Bishop_Zen. Is this enough?
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Chris Martin on 11 January 2018, 10:49:42 PM
One day people bought Dominion from MF thinking they'd have it forever.
In fairness, we thought that because DXV literally said on BGG that once we'd bought the sets, it'd be endlessly free:
Quote
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/9921197#9921197 "If you want to pay a monthly fee, just buy one large expansion per month. That's $12 a month, and hey then it's free once you have them all."
https://videogamegeek.com/article/10355962#10355962 "If you buy Intrigue then you can play the main set and Intrigue endlessly after paying for Intrigue once ever."
I get that that was DXV making statements that turned out to be untrue, not you doing so, but don't make out that this idea came from nowhere. The snark is unbecoming.

Anyway, my username is Chris Martin and here is my feedback:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against < I would probably play some campaigns for completeness' sake, but I wouldn't play offline in general.
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles < No interest in this.
3. A strong bot. < No interest in this.
4. Options for timed games < I think this is an outright bad idea. The reason is that some games are naturally longer than others. Players shouldn't be penalised for not rushing insanely just because they're playing a game with lots of attack cards. That's silly.
5. Options for undo settings < If you could set up an option to automatically allow Undos when there has been no new information seen, that would be useful. I would also like to be able to only play against other players who are generous with Undos.
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. < This could be fun.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table < I would definitely use this. It'd be much more convenient than the present system.
8. More translations (to what language?) < I speak only English.
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... < Personally I miss the style of Isotropic and would prefer to have no animations.
10a. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... < It would definitely be good to have more sight of these things. At present one has to visit a Dominion website to find out what the bottom half of a split pile does.
10b. Option to hide the log < The log is essential. Why would you do that.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) < I don't need this.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) < I don't need this.
13. Downloadable game logs < I don't need this.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) < I feel like the current system is fine. You guys have been very responsive when I've had to report abuse.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion < I don't need this (I hope).
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. < This would make it easier to play with my dad.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: trulpen on 11 January 2018, 11:03:26 PM
I'm one of these users you refer to.

Username: trulpen

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Might use it, but for me it's not so intriguing.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Not so much into playing with bots, but could be interesting.

3. A strong bot.

Could have it's use.

4. Options for timed games

This would be good. Since total time consumption differs between kingdoms, maybe a set amount per turn could be good as an option. A timer for the whole game should also work. Perhaps with increment as in chess (Fischer time).

5. Options for undo settings

This would be good.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Would definitely be a fun feature.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes, I'd like that.

8. More translations (to what language?)

English works fine for me, so not demanded.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I think it's fine as it is.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Would be appreciated.

11. Option to hide the log

Yes.

12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Will likely not use android.

13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Yes, would like to be able to play on the phone or ipad.

14. Downloadable game logs

Don't think I'd use it much, but once now and then I might want to look into a certain kingdom and play and analyze it.

15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Yes, happens that I meet abusive players and it's rather annoying.

16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not needed for me.

17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Not needed for me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: sunshinehippo on 11 January 2018, 11:04:31 PM
Having paid actual money to continue playing beyond January, I'm glad for the opportunity to give feedback, in exchange for additional time on my current subscription.
1. I'm happy to learn that the offline version is still in the works.
2-3. A bot with different play styles is intriguing, as is a strong bot.  I play many games with just bots, and would enjoy the ability to challenge myself. 
4.  Personally, I would not like timed games.
5. The current undo setting works for me.
6. Online mini-tournaments would be fun, but I would prefer to see a return of the campaigns, or something similar.  I enjoyed the opportunity to "win" game tokens, special cards etc.
7. I like the potential option for inviting specific friends to my table.
8. I'm not in need of translations, but appreciate your willingness to explore.
9. I'd like to see better animation.  I miss the old sound effects and miss seeing the bots' actual moves, step by step.  The log is helpful, but if I had to choose between a log and seeing the actual moves and cards purchased by the bots, I would prefer seeing the moves.
10. Yes! I really would like to see the opponents' duration cards.  It affects strategy.
10. Option to hide log - indifferent, unless it would give more space to see the animation.
11.-12.  Not applicable to me; I use PC and iPad; unless you would also create an iPad app. If so, I would want it to sync-up with the web version.
13.  Not interested in downloading the game log.
14.  The moderation has been fine for me.
15.-16. Tutorials: Would be nice for new players. The on-line game is rather intuitive for those of us who also play the actual boxed games.
Another thought:   
- When joining a table, could  there be some way to determine whether a host is in the process of creating a deck?  I have joined tables where the host is "not ready," and have waited for a while, without a game starting.  In those cases, I have left the table after a few minutes of waiting. Don't know what the host was doing.
Thanks!
Lynn Duvall
sunshinehippo 
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: juffowup on 11 January 2018, 11:04:56 PM
Game account is username.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I'd play this.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I'd use and appreciate this.  Ideally this could be integrated into the campaign to give it some flavor.

 3. A strong bot.
Eh.  Stronger options are better, but I can understand that it will never really match a human.  The main thing that's needed on the current bot is to stop a few dumb things.  Right now the bot discards to torturer every time, so any torturer engine automatically pins the bot. 

 4. Options for timed games
I'm not likely to use this unless it becomes the standard.

 5. Options for undo settings
Like a switch I can flip that says I automatically grant undo's that don't reveal new information?  That I'd like.  A nicer interface than /undo x might be nice too but I'm doing fine with it.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yep.  Would love that.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I'm doing fine with the friends list as it works now.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Don't need that myself.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Don't care, as long as there's a very fast option.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
This is huge.  It really sucks that players can't look at what the bottom half of a split pile is.

10. Option to hide the log
Don't care.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Don't care.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I'd use this.

13. Downloadable game logs
Wouldn't use this myself but might appreciate the work others do with it.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Personal bans seem to be working fine with me.  If timed games become a thing, I'd like the option to put slowplayers on a clock.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Don't care.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Don't care.  The thing I would appreciate is a little splash screen when you log in to let you know what little features have been added. 
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Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Mercury444F on 11 January 2018, 11:08:07 PM
Hi Stef,
I am satisfied with the current operating environment even compared with the old style.
I do not play bot, so I can not comment on that, but I will submit some opinions.

5.
Undo when getting new information by draw etc. should be refused, but there are many people who do not understand this rule. I think that it is awkward to explain the reason each time and I think that it is necessary to announce it officially because there are times when it is not understood.

10?.
When selecting from multiple pieces like watchtower or archive, if the same card only is selected, the selection is skipped automatically, but this gives the opponent the information which it is not necessary to give originally There is also the need to check the log again. It would be better to be able to change the setting.


I hope this answer will be helpful for something.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: darthnice on 11 January 2018, 11:10:01 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
10. Option to hide the log
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)


And my username is darthnice.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ChristianHauser on 11 January 2018, 11:13:48 PM
Username:  ChristianHauser
Email: hauser.chris@gmail.com

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
-- Would LOVE this idea. I typically play against the bots - more so than against real people.  Need to get in and out quickly and Bots provide this setup.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
-- YES.  Love the idea.  See above.

 3. A strong bot.
-- I've noticed that I ALWAYS win against the BOT when Counterfeit is a card in play.  The BOT doesn't seem to know how to use it correctly or wisely.

 4. Options for timed games
-- I'm fine with tied games.  A possible solution would be to award a win for whomever bought the first Prov or victory card.

 5. Options for undo settings.
-- No.  Shouldn't undo...we're responsible for the cards we play.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
-- Yes, this is a good idea.  Especially if the cards are the same.  Thus for 4 players you could have a tourney for 1 player vs 1 player, then have another table with the same cards so there is no bias.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
-- Yes.  Needed and would be used a lot.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
-- I'm fine.  English works.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
-- the "end game" still bothers me.  It'd be nice to see the final play...before it displays "end game."

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
-- nope. what is seen works really well and is very clear.

10. Option to hide the log.
-- This would be nice...but I do like looking at the log and glad it is there.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
--YES would love to play via a tablet.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
--YES would love to play via a tablet.

13. Downloadable game logs
-- No.  I'm not that OCD to need this.  Though I can see how others might be.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
-- Yes. Perhaps a "counter" for folks to count down if they are taking too long.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
-- Good idea. I believe the MF had this at a step by step process.  Very intuitive.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.[/b]
-- Yes.  See above.

Other thoughts... 

1) I like the idea of playing "adventures" - against bot with different combination of cards -- going through a "journey" of different levels vs different opponents.  I enjoyed that on the MF site. 

2) It'd be nice to have a "reminder" of what the cards do.  While I recognize about 98% of the cards, sometimes I come across a little known Knight card...and I forget what it does. I always need to jump to a wiki site (e.g. http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Dame_Molly) to determine it's actions.  It would be helpful if this was contained within the game so I don't need to jump away from the site.

Thanks for stepping up and offering the 6 months for free.  Again, my user name is ChristianHauser
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: AdrianHealey on 11 January 2018, 11:18:51 PM
Hi,

My name is also AdrianHealey on online dominion. I just renewed my subscription for a year (including Nocturne). If the offer is still available, I would love some extra game time, but I like giving feedback regardless.


Here are some guidelines on the kind of feedback I'm looking for:
 1. Try to keep it short & concise
 2. Try to describe your own personal wishes, not what you think is best for others.
 3. Please make actual points in these posts (instead of refering to earlier posts making points)


- One thing I am currently missing is the option to ban cards. (Or maybe I haven't found it?) I tried to make the cards I hate unfamiliar, but they still show up. (And it's not like a lot, just the usual rebuild, sauna/avanto, familiar, etc.)
- A mode where you can select a randomized kingdom where you can add stuff like (1) minimum one village, (2) minimum one attack, etc. This can be ranked or unranked, I don't care. I am here to play fun kingdoms, not to climb the ladder.


Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
<= I would probably use it, if it was well developed. I travel a lot by train so yes.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
<= YES.

 3. A strong bot.
<= Same.

 4. Options for timed games
<= Yes, but not high priority.

 5. Options for undo settings
<= Yes, would love.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
<= Yes.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
<= Not very important for me.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
<= Don't care. My English is fine.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
<= Don't really care. Everything is clear enough atm.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
<= I don't care personally.

10. Option to hide the log
<= Don't care.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
<= Don't really care.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
<= Don't care.

13. Downloadable game logs
<= Don't care.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
<= Maybe, I haven't encountered a big problem.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
<= Don't care.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
<= Don't care.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Ingo E on 11 January 2018, 11:28:47 PM
Hi.
I am Ingo E. I really appreciate the new platform.
My prioritised items are: 1, 4, 5, 6, 10 and 14.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
As I am a traveller, its not always i have a stable connection. I would definately use an offline client.
A quick option in a random set-up to rematch the same setup could be useful to master different strategies.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I would say, an adaptive with different rating/level would be better.

 3. A strong bot could be fun.
 
4. Options for timed games
Very interesting. But I would also appreciate a clear time frame for your turn in the ordinary game, or for your slow opponent. It should not be possible to make slow moves in every turn, when the other does not need much time.

 5. Options for undo settings
Yes, definately. The undo make the game more like IRL, but not everybody want that, i know.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes, this option is very interesting and I guess my friends would also appreciate this to complete our IRL tournaments.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Absolutely!

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not necessary for me (Swedish is a small language)

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Log is enough.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
This is an appreciated improvement, I would say.

10. Option to hide the log
Personnally I would probably not use this.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Offline possibility is enough.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Dont use it.

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes, please.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes. My blacklist is increasing and I cant say I remember who did what to end up there. Maybe add a list of reasons to the black list. Usually its slow plays and foul langauge.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
To get new players, I guess this is a must.
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Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: schnort on 11 January 2018, 11:32:48 PM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
yes, though specifically for iOS or android.  Though I don't really care about campaigns.  Or maybe I do.  I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'campaign'
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
yes please.  I really only care about playing bots.  i don't have the patience to play with people
3. A strong bot.
yes please.  I really only care about playing bots.  i don't have the patience to play with people
4. Options for timed games
doesn't affect me, though I wouldn't use it.  I tend to get called away so I'd never set a time for my own games
5. Options for undo settings
seems reasonable
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
not a high priority for me
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
again, I tend not to play with people
8. More translations (to what language?)
n/a
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
might be useful.  things do seem to fly around and not be terribly clear
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
could be useful.  I tend to remember what I've princed, but the archive/crypt thing (and seeing the 2nd half of the split pile) would be handy.   I know most of the cards so it's not THAT high of a priority.
10. Option to hide the log
seems ok as long as the last turn was always available
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
yes.  offline app.   I want to be able to play on the airplane or in the car and not be tied to your servers.  I also want to be insulated from you going out of business.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
yes.  offline app.   I want to be able to play on the airplane or in the car and not be tied to your servers.  I also want to be insulated from you going out of business.
13. Downloadable game logs
people find them useful, but I don't really.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I don't interact much with other players except to kick them off my bot table when somebody sneaks in.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
not useful for me
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
not useful for me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: pablominion on 11 January 2018, 11:40:04 PM
Hi,

My username is pablominion, and I'd love to have some extra subscription time. Below is the feedback, although to be honest, it didn't take me an hour (you did ask to keep it short), so I understand if you find it undeserving.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

This would be the best. Especially to play when traveling or without a good connection (plane, subway, non-urban areas, all good candidates).

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I think this would be nice, but not as important as the playing level of existing bots being more varied. Variety is important because otherwise, playing bots a lot trains you to play bots (for instance, you may spot a particular card combination that is killer for a few bots, and it makes you think it's really strong in general when it really isn't, or not as often).

3. A strong bot.

Most important feature on the list (linked to the above).

4. Options for timed games

Don't care.

5. Options for undo settings

Current undo feature seemed pretty reasonable, although the ability to undo faster would be nice, as 1-by-1 movement can be slow if you realize your mistake after a few clicks.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Don't care.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

I would like it, but it's not super important to me.

8. More translations (to what language?)

Don't care.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Don't care.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Don't care.


10. Option to hide the log

I don't want to hide the log completely, but better options to visualize the stuff that share the real estate would be nice (like mats and duration cards).

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

It would be important to me only if it allow offline play against bots. Times when I want to play from my phone and times when I don't have a good connection overlap almost perfectly.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Don't care.

13. Downloadable game logs

Nice to have, but not super important to me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

It would be nice for me to know it's there, and it would make me play less bots and more people, but not a huge deterrent now.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Don't care.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Don't care.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Ericus1 on 11 January 2018, 11:40:49 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Would be nice

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
An automatic one
 3. A strong bot.
Very welcome.
 4. Options for timed games
No, no, no...
 5. Options for undo settings
Stay it the way it is now.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not only for friends but a tournament for all qualified players.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not necessary for me
 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not necessary for me
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
not necessary for me
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets,
There are sometimes so many cards on the board that it is almost impossible to choose one by playing harbinger for example. They are not visible anymore
10. Option to hide the log
not necessary for me
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
not available for me
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
not needed for me
13. Downloadable game logs
not needed for me
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Very important!!! Chat abuse is very annoying, some like to bully or try to block the game. It takes to long to let those bad people to resign.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
okay.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
okay
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: christian on 11 January 2018, 11:49:01 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
It's not so important for me. I prefere to play against real and human gamers.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Not important for me
3. A strong bot.
Not important for me
 4. Options for timed games

 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, I would like it, when you can invite a player from your friendlist to a game.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No, it's not important
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
No, it's not important
10. Option to hide the log
yes, it would be better to integrate the log actions into bottons.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
That would be really great
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
It's already possible with copy and paste....
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I think the 5 minutes are too long...
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I play the game in german. Sometimes it would be great to see the original english text of the card, when people ask me something.... It's often very hard, when you don't know the orginal name.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jeninnh on 11 January 2018, 11:50:19 PM
User name is jenpavlik.

Below are the features I would be most interested in:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This would be great on travels when wifi is not available.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
This would be my #1 by far.  I use the bot a lot because I like to play quick games when I have a few minutes.  It would be great to eliminate some of the bot bugs.  I would also love to be able to have different difficulty levels for the bot so you could work your way up and see improvement.
Having a few different play styles for bots would be great too, to add variety.  I'm sick of Lord Rattington.  :)

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

A couple of other things that I would love that were not listed:
1. A Kindle version!
2. The ability to replay a given table when using the bot.  In the old version I liked to replay especially when I lost, so I could try different strategies and see how they worked out.
3.  The ability to choose the table when playing the bot.

Thanks!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: djennings on 12 January 2018, 12:10:40 AM
Important to me:
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
3. A strong bot - frustrating that does not handle some cards at all (like Counterfeit - maybe exclude some when using bots if not using well).
Better showing of when under effect of other cards like Swamp Hag
Display of cards gained in place of log (so can see instead of read)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Rest not importnat to me.

I have been really impressed with the game - it is a family event.

My Dominion Username is Marathoner and I have already renewed.



 
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Xilocent on 12 January 2018, 12:21:15 AM
From Xilocent

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
If they were very good bots yes

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Sure--again good AI is the most important

 3. A strong bot.
Yes, very interested

 4. Options for timed games
Okay but the timing has not been too much of an issue for me--you have a way to move away from people who are taking too long.

 5. Options for undo settings
The ones you have are fine

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not a big deal to me

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not a big deal to me

 8. More translations (to what language?)
No

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
No

10. Option to hide the log
no, can just go to Trash

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes very much!!

13. Downloadable game logs
No

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
No I have not had a problem with this.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
No

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
No
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: scottshauf on 12 January 2018, 12:26:32 AM
Thanks for doing this. My user name is scottshauf

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would love this. I like playing real people sometimes, but games are so much quicker against bots. I don't care about "campaigns" really, though (the story lines were stupid, though it was nice to have a sense of progress). What I'd like is a level system for bots (i.e. the higher the level the smarter the bot is). And then the system tracks how well you play against the different level of bots. To be ideal, you'd need some really good bots (or maybe bots that get advantages, like some of the MF campaigns had).

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Sure, that would be good, but different skill levels is more important.

 3. A strong bot.

If this means a really smart bot, yes.

 4. Options for timed games

Don't think I care about this.

 5. Options for undo settings

Yes, I would like this. Take the human decision out of undos.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I doubt I'd use this, though it sounds cool.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Same as answer to #6.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

I'm fine with English.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Please don't waste your time on this.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes, especially split piles.

10. Option to hide the log

Don't care.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I suppose. I'm kind of skeptical that Dominion will work well on the small screen.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Same as #11

13. Downloadable game logs

Just make it so you can see them at the end of the game. Downloadable would be good, too, I guess.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Don't care much. I haven't had many problems with this.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I don't care about it, but I'm sure it would be helpful for attracting new players.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Same as #15.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: davidbeccue on 12 January 2018, 12:49:29 AM

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I'm always online, so this doesn't matter much to me.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I would *love* this.

 3. A strong bot.

Yeah, a variety of bot abilities would be great.  Maybe even a bot that knows
your history and adjusts itself each game to be stronger or weaker to keep your
win percentage a user selectable amount.  For me I would choose a 50% win/loss
record.  Though I'd love to keep pushing the robot AI to be better and better.
Of course, I'd want the AI to tell me it's stength level so I can watch my own
improvement.

 4. Options for timed games

That sounds good.  Kinda like speed chess, I guess.

 5. Options for undo settings

Hmm..   I don't know what options these would be.  I've found the Undo to work just fine.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

That's cool.  Though to be honest, I don't think I'd have energy/time to play
it much because of the hassle of getting everyone together.  Maybe a couple
times a year.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

It does seem like it's harder than it needs to be to start a game with just the
friends you know.  Though, I wouldn't spend much time on this, since it works.
And we've never failed to get a game started.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

I'm an American monoglot, or do I repeat myself!  :-)

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Not necessary.  I thoroughly enjoyed seeing the animations, but actually have
them turned off typically for speed's sake.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

I've never used any of these things outside of learning them here online.  So these seem fine to me.

10. Option to hide the log

Very minor

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I never even tried playing on my phone because I figured it was too small to be
usable.  And I don't use an Android tablet for games.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

No.   :-)

13. Downloadable game logs

No.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Never seen any need for this personally.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Never seen any need for this personally.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Never seen any need for this personally.


My username is davidbeccue

I think you're being very kind with your generous policies in dealing with the MF legacy users.

Thanks!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Superher0like on 12 January 2018, 12:52:15 AM
Hi, my user name is Superher0like

1. An offline client would be nice, I don’t always have internet access

2. I did prefer the old bots with different styles of play, I find if I spend too much time playing the current bot my skill level decreases

3. I would like a stronger bot (see above)

4. I would like timed games, one of the reasons I play the bots is that I don’t have enough time for a live game, sometimes it can be slow

5. I like the undo button but I know people can go back really far and it slows things down. I also am not sure of the fairness of the undo with cards like mystic.

6. I have never played a tournament but if I had the time to play one I would consider it.

7. I like the option of inviting specific players. I have had problems trying to set up games with friends (on the old site)

8. Translation seems like a good idea I have never experienced an issue

9 . I play on my mobile a lot so an option for less animation suits me

10. I am okay with the visulations but I seem to recall using a lot of trial and error to figure out everything

11. I preferred playing on an app I’m not on Android

12. Like apps a lot and am an iPhone iPad user

13. I like downloadable game logs I enjoy going over some games and comparing them with other players

14. I haven’t had to many issues that needed moderation but I play less live games because of slow players. I’ve had a couple of instances were people just run out the clock when they are losing a nd that makes me not want to play

15. Tutorials are always good, I don’t think I’d use them as I have been playing awhile and between me and my group of friends we have all the cards and test out all the new sets .

Thank you
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Max Mapleton on 12 January 2018, 01:05:27 AM
Username = Max Mapleton

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Would be nice but not essential. Mostly depends on if you can make bots that are smart enough to play right around my level, and adapt as I do.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.

Meh.

 4. Options for timed games

Like, "you have to complete your turn in x seconds or you forfeit the turn?" I would rather see a setting that allows me to not match with players that are significantly slower than me on average.

 5. Options for undo settings

I'd mostly like to see: "always allow undo if the other player has not revealed any previously hidden cards." Basically, the player should be able to auto-undo if they haven't gained any new information from the errant play.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

How about bigger tourneys with 1 free month of Gold subscription as prize?

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

How about after every match, I can thumbs up or thumbs down the opponent(s). I'm then more likely to be matched with people I've thumbs upped.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

If there are more translations of the game, will I be getting matched with people who don't speak English? Chat is really nice some games.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I've been playing a long time so I know what's happening when things are played by Prince, or durations, or Tavern mat, etc., but  for new players this has got to be really confusing. Maybe some kind of animation to show where this  cards were coming from in order to be played? Imagine a physical game, the player might point to each card as it takes effect: "First I'm playing my Princed Smithy, then my Wharf duration, etc." It's all in the game log of course, but it would be nice to show that visually.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Would be appreciated.

10. Option to hide the log

This can't really happen until the "click below the log" actions get moved into the UI. Would be nice on smaller screens though.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Yay.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Meh.

13. Downloadable game logs

How about "click here to replay this game" with a speed adjustment button. Maybe this exists already on the "load old game" option which I haven't tried yet because I'm too lazy to find the Game ID. That page should have a list of my recent games.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I haven't had a problem with this.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Would probably be good, but there are plenty of them out there already. Maybe pay someone who has already built one to improve it and incorporate it into the game UI?

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I think once you know the game it's easy enough to figure out.

Suggestions

Would be nice to have a text-only mode for less-obvious gaming or for crappy hardware or less battery usage.

On MF, it was easy to build custom decks, save them, and invite random people to play. I can't see where to save a custom deck, or a way to attract players to play them with me.

I'd like an option to "auto start game" when it's the default 7 coppers 3 estates setup.

Right-clicking on a card to see the card up close should darken the rest of the screen (modal window), and clicking or right-clicking *anywhere* should go back to the game. Holding down on a card should do the same thing as right-clicking.

For cards with autoplay options like Moat, there should be a delay option too. Like "Reveal Moat if I don't respond within 3 seconds." This will keep gameplay moving for players that get distracted when it's not their turn.

Can there be a per game setting like "Auto-skip remaining buys if I have 0 left to spend." This option would only appear the first time it actually happened during a game. In most games I don't want to load up on coppers every turn, but may have plenty of extra buys left.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: aerospeace on 12 January 2018, 01:29:37 AM
Thanks for doing this. My user name is aerospeace

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I really do not need this, as for me it is mostly meeting other player and practicing with them.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Again, do not see myself playing a bot

 3. A strong bot.

Again, do not see myself playing a bot

 4. Options for timed games

THis one would be really great, as I hate when I start a game to realise that either the oponent is really slow or ude to the board the game will take much more time than what I had planned for.

 5. Options for undo settings

Sound good, but need to be nicely parametrised.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Would be amazing!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Same as answer to #6.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

English fine with me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Please do not worry about this.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Split piles would be a must, to know all the catrds on the board (although I should know it by now!). Others are ok.

10. Option to hide the log

Don't care.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Would be amazing! I have a 6inch cellphone, so quite big, maybe it would fit?

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

This time iphone tends to be too small. but an ipad one would be nice.
Both 11 and 12 are not priority are people can connect online to play dominion through their browsewr.

13. Downloadable game logs

Not needed for me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Not needed for me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not needed for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Not needed for me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: TinPotGeneral on 12 January 2018, 01:53:30 AM
User: TinPotGeneral

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

 I did enjoy the campaign previously. Would probably play again. Not that much of a priority for me.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Not super interested in playing bots.

 3. A strong bot.

Not super interested in playing bots.

 4. Options for timed games

Yes, probably with hand timer? Not sure what happens. Extra time reserve, you lose if run out of reserve. Only issue I see with this is that sometimes lots of laboratory avento other chaining cards or when you get champion each hand could potentially require you to play whole deck each hand. So maybe each time you play a card it adds little to your time to play that hand. ie 2 secs. Rather than have to play 25 cards in fixed 15 secs.

 5. Options for undo settings

Yes. Although generally I personally am ok to let people undo. Distinction/option I might like to see is automatic undo, without approval, for actions which don't reveal cards (or information). Ie misclick on action card. For me I generally think within your turn. Although there is misclick buys occasionally. I think it would be better to have undo turned off by people before the game if they don't want to allow it. That gives me a choice to play with them or not. Rather than I have to request and always feel bit bad when get rejected for requesting undo.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Probably wouldn't use. Might be interested if they could be completed in hour?

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not interested

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I use english.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Fine with the ones now. Feel it's quite fast. I used to enjoy customising the speed.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Need a way to read/see what the bottom five cards of split pile is.
 
10. Option to hide the log
Don't mind it although do find it occasionally useful with speed of cards don't see what people did from animations.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Haven't tried mobile for a while on my android phone.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Used to play exclusively on my ipad, but was too slow so switched to pc only.

13. Downloadable game logs
Don't care.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Would like a way to avoid matching with slow players mainly.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Don't need. Card index might be nice, usually I try and look up google for split piles I don't know.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Don't need.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: JewelsJLF on 12 January 2018, 02:03:28 AM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
   — I only ever play online and don’t usually like playing bots where there are an abundance of real players to play against.  I would only play against a bot if it there were long waits to find opponents to fill a game, but that is not the case (at least for heads up games, which is all I typically like to play).

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
  — Not applicable since I don’t like playing bots
 
 3. A strong bot.
  — Not applicable since I don’t like playing bots

 4. Options for timed games
  — I don’t think timed games are as important as timed turns... with that said, I think it takes too long before you are able to force someone to resign

 5. Options for undo settings
  — What kinds of options? LIke how many turns to undo? This could be useful if implemented right.  Sometimes I wish I could undo until my last action.  Sometimes it’s hard to catch it in time or to count how many actions your opponent has taken since your last action.  This is a problem sometimes if you made a mistake and your opponent takes several actions before you’re able to hit undo.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
  — might be fun

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 — This would be good, but often players are already in a game, so they should be able to respond to the invite and join after their current game?

 8. More translations (to what language?)
— N/A for me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
— maybe

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
— yes

10. Option to hide the log
— I would love to hide the log... especially if it wasn’t necessary for certain game actions

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
— N/A

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
— I would love an ipad app... don’t care about an iPhone app... screen is too small and I would prefer to play on the ipad.

13. Downloadable game logs
— not important to me

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
— should be able to flag abusive players... I use the blacklist feature but I primarily use that for slow players or players who don’t allow reasonable use of undo... would be nice to be able to separate those from actual abusive players

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
— might be good for new players

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
— if the interface is well-designed, shouldn’t need this... but there are some un-intuitive features that could use some improvement or explanation, such as how to see the trash, mats, and set aside cards... etc.  Also clicking in the log to do certain actions is horrible UI design... buttons need to be implemented for those features.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Tim Lieder on 12 January 2018, 02:16:20 AM
ere are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

That would be great. I actually find that Dominion does crash on a semi-regular basis and I am fine with playing bots if there are no people around.


 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I would definitely be interested in different bots. One of the things that I liked about the old play was that when you chose bots you could choose bots that had different skills. I will admit that one of the problems with playing the bot is that it's pretty easy to see what it's going to do.

 3. A strong bot.
I would definitely be interested in stronger bots. Sometimes I feel like the bot is trying to lose.

4. Options for timed games

I am nominally interested in this one but there are some games that are going to take longer. Sometimes people are unfamiliar with the cards. Other times the promotional cards are complicated and they take longer. But I think that turns should be timed a little better. Often I get stuck with someone who has disconnected and I don't want to forfeit the match. Can the players be reminded that their turns are taking too long?

 5. Options for undo settings

I feel like people abuse the Undo option. A couple of UNDO turns are fine, but sometimes they undo everything. Also toward the end of the game, the undo should be eliminated since the game is already taking forever. I have been yelled at and insulted for refusing to accept an undo. I think that there should be two or three free undos per game (no need to ask) and then no undos until the end.



6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Not sure i would use it.


 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes. This is interesting.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Not applicable to me.


 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not necessary.


10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I think it seems ok as long as I know where to look.


10. Option to hide the log
I would not be interested in it. ANd I would not want to have it hid if the other player wanted it that way.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs


Not interested in any of those. I don't think I want to play Dominion on my phone. I just got an Android this year and every month I'm eating up the memory.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
A little. But I am also fine with just blocking these people. However, with slow players, I do think that an automatic timer asking them to hurry up would improve things.



15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not applicable to me as a subscriber, but I think that if you want new people to sign up that you should have them.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: spooneye on 12 January 2018, 02:34:48 AM
My user name is spooneye—I've been playing Dominion online for maybe 4 or 5 years now?

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
As a NYC subway rider, this is incredibly valuable to me. I often play Ascension on the subway, which I like considerably less than Dominion, but it serves a valuable purpose as a game I can enjoy semi-atuomatically while listening to music or a podcast. When I play Dominion online (where I pretty much only play ranked random tables) I'm pretty focused, but it's also a really good game to just goof around with and try out ill-advised strategies.

I am also a big fan of Hearthstone's recent Dungeon Run, which does a great job of designing a boss-rush framework around its usual gameplay, but cannot be played offline. If there was something structurally as ambitious in Dominion that could be played offline, it would probably take over my commuting time completely.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I'd very much like this, as my offline play style would tend towards idle experimentation, but it's not crucial.

 3. A strong bot.
It depends on what you mean by strong: assuming it was let loose in ranked play like any other entity...level 30? 40? 50? I guess I'd be disappointed if it were below 40ish, since that's about the floor of my "suitable opponents"...but since my offline play would be a lot more half-assed than my online, it'd still get a lot of play as long as it wasn't pulling some "trash a Province with JoaT" shenanigans or whatnot.

 4. Options for timed games
Yeah, this would be great. I tend to get a little impatient with some people's playstyles, so the ability to set moderate limits would let me avoid matching with people who'd prefer a more languid pace. And I do enjoy blitz-style boardgames in general. 

 5. Options for undo settings
At the moment, this seems to work pretty well for me, no particular problems. Everyone has been nice and reasonable about it, so even if it's slightly clunky I can't think of anything that needs changing.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Theoretically super-cool, but I don't know if I'd actually end up using it. But if someone invited me to one, I'd almost certainly join.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I honestly thought you could already do this. It's never occurred to me, I just play random matches.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I'm monolingual, so no opinion worth mentioning.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
These all seem fine to me. I've never found myself confused.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
These would be good—having not bought the last two expansions, I've come across split piles where I'm just trusting that there's something cool on the bottom that interacts with the top half, and I know I've botched a Prince and totally wasted it at least twice. I don't know what Archive/Crypt is, and at this point I'm afraid to ask.

10. Option to hide the log
You can switch it over to the Trash right now, right? This seems fine to me as an alternate option—maybe there's some UI improvement that could be made to point people towards this option, I dunno.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't own an Android, but sure, they're nice folks, they deserve it.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I think a distinct app would be a necessity for the sort of offline play I hoped for above.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not a high priority now, but I've flirted with trying to consciously up my game, and the availability of these might nudge me in that direction.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Have never had anything but the mildest chat unpleasantness. There have been a few time I wanted to blacklist a particularly pokey player, but couldn't figure out how to do it, and once the game ended I forgot their exact username. So a list of your last 10 opponents would be a very useful option.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
The fact that I'm here means this isn't crucial for me directly, but I do use Dominion in the game design classes I teach, and having a good online tutorial would save me about a half-hour of class time per semester. :)

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think a well-structured and prominently placed FAQ is sufficient—if you're going to play online, you're probably pretty self-motivated to figure things out, and it conforms enough to usual online game best practices that I think I'd be able to figure out how things work without explicit instruction.

Some extra thoughts for the end:

- The worst part of the UI is probably the Tavern cards and some other reaction effects—I don't know why they're tucked away in the log, and although I haven't asked for undos often, it's almost always because of this.

- Definitely the ability to veto cards—maybe even the old-old-school isotropic method, where 12 cards are drafted and each player vetos one? The combinatorial flexibility of the game is its greatest strength, but also can make for some very ungainly games—my patience for setups where the dominant strategy is "play your whole deck every turn" is limited, and it's less about any particular card than a combo that just makes me roll my eyes and go "oh, this again".

- As an out-of-left-field suggestion: how about the possibility of using a Backgammon-style doubling cube in ranked play? Having played a fair amount of Hearthstone, I'm used to the "instantly resign when it's clear you've lost" equilibrium there, but here I'm often frustrated by people who insist on going down with the ship, and in turn probably seem brusque and unfriendly when I just don't want to waste anybody's time. The option of a doubling cube would fix that, add an interesting evaluative meta-skill to the gameplay, and work pretty seamlessly with ranked play, since the usual stake is already "1 win".
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: bvonbaconhund on 12 January 2018, 02:54:40 AM
Username: bvonbaconhund

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
   Yes. Would love this as I spend most of my time playing against bots during my lunch breaks from work.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   Yes. Would like to be able to have different styles/competitive levels of bots.
 3. A strong bot.
  I think a settings for bot strength for all bots would be best.
 4. Options for timed games
   Yes. Find playing online against others often takes too long. Timed games would match you up against people with the same time availability.
 5. Options for undo settings
   Yes and No. I think it would be great for accidental plays, however I think players may abuse it.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
  Yes.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
  Yes.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
  English is all I need.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
  No. More animation is unnecessary. However would like better notification on what card was chosen on a Contraband card, or what card your opponent trashed/discarded during play.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
  No.
10. Option to hide the log
  Yes.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES!!
13. Downloadable game logs
  No.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
   Yes.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
  no
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
   no.

Would love the offline game to have the ability to play against others on the same network.

Thanks!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: SilverRapier on 12 January 2018, 03:26:47 AM
My user name is SilverRapier


 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
      Yes, I would like an offline client, but I prefer it plays on a tablet or PC.  I am not concerned about the campaigns
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
      Yes, I would prefer different styles.  It would allow me to test different approaches.  An option for both  random bots or a selected bots would work
3. A strong bot.
      Yes
 4. Options for timed games
      It would be nice to have a time limit for no action to prevent dragging out games.  I am not concerned about timed games.
5. Options for undo settings
      Nice to have.  Being able to go back to a certain spot in the log would be nice
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
      I would not use this
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
      Yes
8. More translations (to what language?)
      No, not an issue for me
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
      - I am not concerned about animations of cards as I play them.  More important is better animations of cards my opponent bought our gained.
      - A better way to see Boons and Hexes would be beneficial.  They appear then disappear.  Having not memorized all of them yet, I have to look them up
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
      - Improve the visibility of both cards in the split pile, it helps newer players (both should show when you hover over the pile)
      - Visibility around the tavern mat, reserve cards, etc. is not intuitive at first.  This would be nice to improve
10. Option to hide the log
      I would not use this
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
      Either is fine, as long as it works well.  So whichever is easier to implement.  If I am not at a PC I always play on a tablet and not my phone, so an app is less of a concern
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
      Not a concern for me
13. Downloadable game logs
      I would not use
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
      Slow play moderation would be nice
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
      No, I would not use
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
      No, I would not use

Things you do not have on the list:
1) Improve the calling of cards such reserve cards.  This is hidden in the log, and I wish there was a better mechanic.  One that reminded users of this option (or was front and center only at the start of the turn).  The same is true for several start of turn cards activating at the same time (e.g. you played Wharf and Ghost Town last turn).  I would put this high on the list
2) Option to have a warning if you "End Buy" or "End Turn" and still could buy based on your money.  This type of mis-click is the most common and would prevent undos.  Maybe this would only work if you had more than a certain amount of coin left
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: weilandb on 12 January 2018, 03:28:20 AM
I'm very excited to hear about the offline version. I was very upset when the old version was replaced. I'll admit it, I"m cheap and never pay for games online. But I love dominion so much, it was worth paying for.

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 
 --This would be perfect for me, I prefer to play against the bots. Would it be possible for multiple users to use the offline version (i.e. an account for me and one for my daughter?)

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

 -- A good idea. It would also be nice to have a "random" option so you don't know what the bot's strategy is when you start.

 3. A strong bot.

  -- In general the bots seem to be ok, but it's always nice to have the option.
   
 4. Options for timed games

 -- I would not use this option

 5. Options for undo settings

  -- What kind of options?

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

  -- I only play against bots so I don't think this would apply to me.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

  -- Does not apply to me
 
 8. More translations (to what language?)

  -- Does not apply to me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

  -- I have no preference.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

  -- I have no preference

10. Option to hide the log

  -- I have no preference, I rarely use the log

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

  -- YES PLEASE!!! I would LOVE an App. it would also be nice if it's available on thru amazon so I could easily put it on my daughter's kindle fire.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

  -- Does not apply to me

13. Downloadable game logs

  -- I would not use this feature

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

  -- Does not apply to me

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

  -- I am very familiar with the physical card game so this does not apply to me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

  -- I did not need it.

Other: Please provide an option to hide the scores of all players. Please show how many cards the other players have in their deck and their discard. Maybe provide a "thermometer" indicator for how large the deck is vs an actual number.

Thank you,

username: weilandb

P.S. My daughter is only 6yrs old but she love Love LOVES dominion. Playing together as a team online has been a great way to explain strategy without her getting frustrated.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: GlassesMonday on 12 January 2018, 03:29:20 AM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This would be an interesting feature that I would use if it existed, but not essential

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would be interesting, particularly if you are able to play the same kingdom against different bots, but not essential

 3. A strong bot.
I would value this as I often play bot games due to time constraints

 4. Options for timed games
Not that valuable to me

 5. Options for undo settings
Quite valuable, I sometimes misclick when playing on tablet.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be a fun addition, but not essential

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Highly valuable

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not necessary for me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I prefer streamlined aesthetics and want games to be a short as possible, so animations that add time are not valuable to me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, absolutely necessary.

10. Option to hide the log
Not important to me


11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Would use this a lot -- I often play on tablet

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Don't have iphone, so no

13. Downloadable game logs
I don't / wouldn't use this functionality

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
It is OK as is

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not required for me, but could be useful for friends

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not required for me

username: GlassesMonday
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: chadhogg on 12 January 2018, 03:30:55 AM
Well, that explains something.  A few days ago I could not understand why it would take forever for me to find a match, even when there were many other people looking.  I experimented with turning off the "wait for expansions" checkbox that I had never noticed before, and that caused me to find matches right away.  But it made no sense -- I had the expansions, so why would I need to wait for them?  And then I noticed that the randomly chosen kingdoms for all of my games in the past week have seemed extremely similar.  So that's it -- I do not (any more) have the expansions.

Username: chadhogg

Most of the features you are planning to add would have no effect on my usage of the product, except for these:

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

I've always assumed that this was possible, and that I was just too dumb to figure out how to do it.  It definitely should exist.


 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I want the opposite of this.  Long before I was a player at Making Fun / Goko I was a user of Isotropic, and it remains the best electronic implementation of the game because it could be mostly text based.  I understand that most people want fancy graphics and animations, but there should be an option to play a version that requires very little bandwidth / memory / CPU time.


13. Downloadable game logs

Yes, but not just for the players of the game.  Make as much data as you can available through an API for people to work with.  The Dominion Salvager website made the Making Fun / Goko version of the game 1000% better.


What I would really like to see was not listed as one of your priorities: make it so that actions the user will almost certainly want to take more obvious and harder to avoid.  I can't count the number of times I have just started clicking on actions when my opponent ended his/her turn and lost the opportunity to call a Teacher.


Overall, I think you've done a really good job with the product, and it doesn't need much work.  It is already far superior to the previous version.


P.S. - I'm a crotchety old man who likes to own things and hates the idea of subscriptions.  I know this isn't going to happen, but what I would really like to see is the option to buy a lifetime subscription for a much higher price, coupled with a promise that if you decide to discontinue the product you will open source it so that those of us who have paid for it can host it ourselves.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Richard Gibbs on 12 January 2018, 03:32:02 AM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I may use it.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I may use it.
 3. A strong bot.
I may use it.
 4. Options for timed games
I may use it.
 5. Options for undo settings
I may use it.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I would not use it.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I would use it.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
I have a lot of blind friends and run 64 Oz. Games, a company dedicated to making games accessible. If you could make the website readable by screen readers I would be able to point a lot of blind players your way.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No interest.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, that would be useful
10. Option to hide the log
No interest.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
It would just need to work.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
No interest.
13. Downloadable game logs
No interest.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
No interest.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
No interest.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
No interest.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Morrison on 12 January 2018, 03:58:46 AM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes! The solitaire version of the game is terrific for playing at your own speed or when you're feeling antisocial.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, please.
 3. A strong bot.
Don't care.
 4. Options for timed games
Yes, please.
 5. Options for undo settings
It's currently a little complicated and the number of steps back has resulted in at least once starting a game over.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Sounds nice.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, please.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes, please.Yes, please.Yes, please. Just not something that heats up my phone and makes me delete every other app.
Other things I'd love: maybe a simple way to integrate with boardgamegeek to keep scores?
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: feralbones on 12 January 2018, 04:03:51 AM
Username: feralbones

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I wouldn't play offline.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Would be good for practice.

3. A strong bot.
If it were intelligent enough, would be very good for practice.

4. Options for timed games
Yes, I would use that.

5. Options for undo settings
Need more specifics would more settings could be useful.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Love it!

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
YES PLEASE

8. More translations (to what language?)
N/A

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
That could be fun

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
YES. And ability to see all the cards in a pile, not necessarily in order but a preview/spread of what cards are in the pile (Example: Prizes)

10. Option to hide the log
Oh my god YES.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes, would use.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
N/A

13. Downloadable game logs
Would not use.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Yes.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Yes - though I think playing the online game is a lot different than the physical game, so I'm not sure where you'd want to put your efforts/resources. I lean towards Dominion online tut.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: rchlfish on 12 January 2018, 04:23:09 AM
Username: rchlfish

1. I would definitely use an offline game.  Campaigns aren’t important to me.
2-3.  I only played against bots and am happy with how they play.  The computer version allows me to use this game without any setting up or putting away of card piles and I really appreciate that.
4. I wouldn’t time games.
5. I would like to undo things.  I have accidentally played all my treasures out of habit when I meant to keep one of them for something else (such as trashing when buying a Farmland).  Just undoing the previous action would be good enough.
6. I wouldn’t play online in tournaments.
7. I like the idea of inviting specific people to games.
8-10. I don’t have an opinion on other languages, animations, visualizations, or the log.  Those have all worked fine for me.
11.  An Android/Kindle app would be great.  (As a one time-purchase without ads)
12.  An iPhone app would be good, but I’d probably get the Android/Kindle first to try it out.  (Also as a one-time purchase without ads)
13.  I wouldn’t download game logs.
14.  I haven’t needed moderation since I have only played with bots.  I would only play with people I know if that was an option.
15-16.  I don’t need a tutorial.

Thank you for this option to provide feedback.


Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... 
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Tamuc on 12 January 2018, 04:28:25 AM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I'm usually online, but this would occasionally be useful

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Somewhat useful

 3. A strong bot.
I would love to be able to choose the strength of the bot I'm playing.  This would be a high priority for me.

 4. Options for timed games
This would be a good option to have.  I wouldn't use it that often, but sometimes it would be nice.

 5. Options for undo settings
I think the undo settings now are adequate.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be very nice.  I normally just play random games, but being able to create a tournament with a few friends would be nice every now and then.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, please!

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not needed for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I think current animations are fine.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Current settings are fine.

10. Option to hide the log
This would be a nice option.  I think I would still usually choose to show the log, but it may be nice sometimes to utilize the full screen.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
N/A

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Probably the item on this list that I want to see the most.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not that important to me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I generally haven't needed this.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I wouldn't mind some advanced pointers.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
It's pretty straightforward.

My username is Tamuc.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: BigDaddyG on 12 January 2018, 04:29:44 AM
Username: BigDaddyG


Here are some guidelines on the kind of feedback I'm looking for:
 1. Try to keep it short & concise
 2. Try to describe your own personal wishes, not what you think is best for others.
 3. Please make actual points in these posts (instead of refering to earlier posts making points)

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would use this.

I primarily play Dominion as a form of meditation before bed, and over 99% of my games are against bots.

The current model which requires me to be online is fine most of the time, since I'm home with a wifi connection, but an offline version would be great for situations where I am without wifi

I'd play some campaigns, but I mostly play individual games, so the need for campaigns isn't a dealbreaker for me.  I like the repetitiveness of games - that is what is meditative for me

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Sure.  I'd enjoy being able to choose playing bots with a particular style

I'd especially like this if there was an interface that made it easier to choose which cards we were playing with, and then I could choose different bots to try different tactics against

 3. A strong bot.

I'd like this too.    In particular, I think the current bots don't play events well.

For example, if I play a game with Inheritance and Ambassador against bots, I know I am going to win, since I'm going to inherit a bunch of empowered Estates

 4. Options for timed games

not that important to me

 5. Options for undo settings

yes- I would use this.  There are times I mishit my keypad, and I'd like to undo more easily

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

not that important to me

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

not that important to me

 8. More translations (to what language?)

not that important to me


 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

for the most part, not that important to me


10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

this would help

I also think some form of better clarity for what is in the black market deck would be great

10. Option to hide the log

I think the current set up is fine

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I use an IPhone and an IPad.   The screen on the IPhone is too small, so it'd have to be an elegant design to make that work.  I would use an IPad app though, especially if it had an offline option

13. Downloadable game logs

I like the idea in theory, but I'm not sure how much I'd use it

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Not that important to me


15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I don't need this.  Perhaps others do.  I feel like the online resources that already exist are probably sufficient


16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Would be helpful, especially for newer expansions
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: senneth on 12 January 2018, 04:57:55 AM
Current in game as: Babygirl, previously senneth. Personally, I like the minimalist approach. I like that it works, that it's fast. Android/Apple apps would be good. Improved moderation or ability to deal with abusive players. I think the game works well and I enjoy it. No major changes I would make, except maybe except public chat room where you can look for games outside matching. Mini-tournaments would be fun. Tournaments you can sign up for directly in game, rather than on the forum. The ability to change your username. I'd love it offline and I'd rather wait till you're happy with it than have it now. Thanks for everything you do for us.

One day people bought Dominion from MF thinking they'd have it forever.
This turned out not to be true, and although I didn't think this was my fault in any way, unhappy Dominion players still made me feel bad.

Our idea was to compensate these users by giving them a choice between a year of online or the promised offline version. However, we failed to deliver an offline version until now, so this idea didn't fully work out.

I still really want an offline version, and when we get there the old MF owners will still get it for free. But this product does not make sense if we don't add campaigns first, and they don't make sense if we don't add a proper AI first. All in all it is much more work then I originally had hoped, and I now expect this to arrive in the fall of 2018.

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I've come to the following decision: If you are one of the people for whom "free 2017" just ended, I am willing to extend it with another half a year in exchange for one hour of your time. The short version is "provide feedback and don't forget to include your username". Longer version below. The offer stands for anyone replying in this thread in the next 10 days and is only about expansions you once bought from MF. If you already bought a subscription for (a part of) 2018, I will extend it with half a year for the appropriate expansions.

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Here are some guidelines on the kind of feedback I'm looking for:
 1. Try to keep it short & concise
 2. Try to describe your own personal wishes, not what you think is best for others.
 3. Please make actual points in these posts (instead of refering to earlier posts making points)

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: pyrotica on 12 January 2018, 05:16:16 AM

My username is pyrotica

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots /

I don't think this should be a high priority.
   
This would be fun for some but to be honest the online community is not currently lacking in opponents, I can at a moments notice play against another human which IMO is much more fun than playing against a bot. Although to be honest I did play the old campaigns on the MF client. Perhaps if you made there to be some reward for playing the campaign, like you get the latest promo card for free but only if you beat the campaign etc.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Again, low priority.

I think if you are going to have bots you will need to have a variety of them with all kinds of different play styles otherwise it will get old super quick to play against them. Also if you are going to do bots you need to have them of all different strengths - weak bots, strong bots, and everything in between. This is how the old MF campaigns stayed interesting, because the different bots you would play against had all kinds of different strengths and weaknesses.

3. A strong bot.

Again, low priority.

See above.

4. Options for timed games

Yes this should be a high priority for you.

In fact I think it should be the default. Perhaps 10 minutes for each player for the standard game. Also you could run something like the byo-yomi timing system from Go where there is a main time and then a set number of time periods of a set number of seconds which reset when you finish your turn, but after which the game is forfeit. This would prevent slow playing. So then the default would be something like each player gets 10 minutes plus 5 periods of 30 seconds each to play. The host would be able to set the timing in the table, so you could have a long game or a blitz game or whatever.

5. Options for undo settings

High priority.

Yes I think this should be standard as well. You could see upfront if there is an undo allowed, if permission is needed, or if no undo at all. And you could change the setting for each table.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Low priority

This would be fun, I would probably use a feature like this more if there were online tournaments, like weekly tournaments at the same day and time each week, separated for different rankings like 45-50, 50-55, 55-60 etc. I dont have enough friends who are interested in the game to run a tourney at home.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

High priority. Absolutely, this should be standard. As well you should in your settings be able to set it to auto-invite people when they come online.

8. More translations (to what language?)

I think you should although it wouldnt effect my game at all.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I think sound effects are more important. The animations seem fine for the moment. When you get too carried away with animations to the point that the game runs slow, it really sucks. The latest iteration of MtG on steam is like that, it runs so unplayably slow its just ridiculous. However I think sound is important. It provides your brain with information. The shuffle sound is the most important, but perhaps some small subtle sounds that correspond to certain things like +action, +card, +buy, curse, boon, hex, etc.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

High priority.

Absolutely this needs to happen. Its playable as it is but to be honest its easy to forget what is where in the current version. Although it is understandable that the screen scales the way it does, there should be a way to change it. When I play on my 34" gaming monitor the cards are humongous but then some of them are still hidden. If the game scaled more intelligently, there would be plenty of space for all the cards at least on my big screen. You should be able to change that in the settings.   

10. Option to hide the log

Yes and it should apply to the whole table. The host should be able to change the settings much like they can change other settings.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Well right now I can't say its very playable on the android. I probably would use this, the web page doesnt lend itself well to little touch screens.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Nah just make the android app, screw those apple people. JK you should do a poll and find out how many of your users use apple vs android, make that app first, then the other one.

13. Downloadable game logs

    I would not use this feature.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Slow playing can be entirely eliminated by making timed games the default. Chat abuse is pretty annoying, probably because you have a lot of teenaged boys playing the game. I don't encounter it now as much as I used to, it has already improved. I'd say mods are good, cant hurt anything. Maybe give people free subscriptions for certain number of mod hours or whatever.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Yes! And it needs to explain key concepts, help make everyone into stronger players. Absolutely.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Nah its very self explanatory as it is.

A couple of things that I think should be implemented-

- Matching games should default to VP counter OFF. For god's sake, that's half the challenge of the game is trying to figure out if you are ahead or behind. Having it on by default really dumbs down the experience on average.

- On that note you should be able to match with a preexisting table, or have someone match with your table. That way you can host a table, set the settings how you want, then wait for someone to match with you. Also you can choose match settings when you select to match. Say rank 40-60, vp off, time limit no more than 10 minutes, etc. This would make matching games much more interesting.

- I am of the opinion that the payment system should never have been implemented the way it is. I realize that in this day and age you have to have subscription dollars coming in to stay solvent. However there might be a better way to do it. For example, a base charge to acquire the card sets followed by a fee. I was both pleased and butthurt when dominion.games came along because when MF went belly up I thought my investment was gone. Now I can still play dominion and in fact dominion.games is better than MF ever was. However, I am still butthurt that I don't get to keep the cards forever that I had already payed for (I had the entire set when MF went belly up) 

- In general I think you should focus on improving the online PvP aspects of the game, rather than offline.   Even though I stand to gain the offline for free when it comes out. ;)  Because playing against other humans is just better.

- In general I think you guys have done a great job. When my free subscriptions run out I can't say for sure whether or not I will renew because of the price. But I do play a lot and I will consider it, especially if you improve the online PvP environment somewhat. It is currently acceptable but certain things such as improved matching, time limits, sounds, etc are important and I would really be happy to see them implemented.  If you simply continue as is I think you will eventually lose players over time, and I would be sad to see that happen. Half of what is fun about your site is that you have a large and diverse player base and I can match with someone of similar strength any time of the day or night.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: DarrenicusII on 12 January 2018, 05:37:03 AM
Game works well. The biggest issues I have are:

1. easy access to visualize the edge cases. ex: Native Village, Tavern Mats, discard piles, etc. If I'm going to play a Bustling Village or Counting House, I'd really like to be able to see my discard pile.
2. ability to undo moves that don't give me any new information. I should have to ask permission to undo playing a Venture or Smithy. I shouldn't have to ask permission to undo playing a Copper or a Remodel.
3. Stash. This is a cool card. I want to be able to play it.

From your wishlist, I want:
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
 5. Options for undo settings
13. Downloadable game logs


The rest is all equally low priority.

My username is DarrenicusII.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: kilgoretrout103 on 12 January 2018, 05:58:43 AM
Thanks for the offer, Stef--and thanks for keeping online Dominion running! My username is the same in the client.

As a preliminary note, the thing I most want is not on this list: some type of matchmaker that lets both players agree on the kingdom before starting, like we had on isotropic. Not all kingdoms are created equal, and I would love to be able to see what I'm getting into ahead of time, and re-generate it if necessary.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I don't think I would use this much, unless the AI got much better. Although it would come in handy on plane rides.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I can't see myself using this at all. I would just want the most competent bot on a given board (a huge ask, I know--Dominion strategy is hard.)

 3. A strong bot.
Now that would be excellent. It might, say, triple my utility from Dominion? I like being able to join a game without pressure to finish it right away. (like if I expect to have to leave at any moment). This is probably the biggest programming challenge on the list but it is the one I would benefit most from by far.

 4. Options for timed games
I don't have any particular interest in speeded games, though I might use it if it were available.

 5. Options for undo settings
I can see how these would be helpful. Mostly I'm grateful we have the undo option at all--a great touch.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be my number 2 priority, also by a wide margin. I'd be happy to see the community get more competitive.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I could also see how this would be useful, but I haven't missed it.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not needed for me, but I don't see why my preference should control.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Zero interest. I keep the animations off. Really my goal is to emulate isotropic again.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Also don't care. See above.

10. Option to hide the log
Zero interest again. I play at the fastest animation speed possible, so I rely on the log more than on the images. Again, emulating iso.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would love a mobile app. But I'm an iOS user so that's the one that would be best for me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
See above

13. Downloadable game logs
Don't we have this already with the dominion log prettifier + save as pdf?

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I haven't experienced these as much of a problem. Says good things about the community.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I have no use for this, given that I've been addicted to Dominion since ~2012.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
See above.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ghost weasel on 12 January 2018, 06:10:18 AM
Hey, that's really generous of you to offer the 6 months free for us MF users. I already paid for this entire year, but if you wanted to cover the following 6 months, I wouldn't be mad about it...  ;) User name = Ghost Weasel. Here's my feedback:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would love that. Would be great to play during long road trips when internet isn't readily available.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
That would be interesting to play around with, but doesn't seem like it should be a huge priority.

 3. A strong bot.
That would be good, a guaranteed challenge can be nice.

 4. Options for timed games
Doesn't really seem too necessary, although maybe a speed version could be interesting... where each turn has a time limit. It could change the strategy for sure.

 5. Options for undo settings
Doesn't seem like a priority.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
That would be cool! I would definitely participate.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I don't imagine I would use that feature often, but I could see how some people would.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I am an English first language, so I wouldn't use that feature.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I like the animations fine. I would definitely put this lower on the priority list.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
It would be good to see those things on the "table", but I haven't had much trouble with the current system.
 
10. Option to hide the log
I personally enjoy having the log to reference, but maybe there could be a log/mats toggle switch?

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would definitely download this and use it regularly.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't have an iPhone

13. Downloadable game logs
I likely wouldn't use this feature.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
There are a few incidents I can think of when a more involved moderator would have been helpful in dealing with chat abuse, but by and large, most players are courteous, and I don't think it requires a whole lot of attention.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I would use this feature to show friends how to play because I am bad at explaining it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think it's pretty intuitive, but maybe a short/optional tutorial for brand new subscribers.

Hope that helps! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Chopchopchops on 12 January 2018, 06:24:20 AM

My user name isn’t cho chopchopchops.

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/us
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
definitely
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I might play with it but I don't need it
 3. A strong bot.
No, it's hard enough
 4. Options for timed games
Definitely!
 5. Options for undo settings
Definitely!
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not interested
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Definitely
 8. More translations (to what language?)
No
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yes, sometimes it's confusing
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, definitely. And also duration cards
10. Option to hide the log
No
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes - also just making it easier to "zoom in" on cards, especially ones that are minimized
13. Downloadable game logs
No
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I haven't dealt with this, but there should be some way to deal with these people
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Currently, no, but I would've when I was new
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
No, it's pretty simple

An offline version/app is my top priority. Otherwise, my main concerns are with improving the AI. Specifically, they seem not to know how to use Bank, Knights, Lurker, or Counterfeit, and don't seem to engage their strategy with the special cards in the gold expansion which give victory points for special things.

Also, the website doesn’t seem to tolerate auto fill - the login button often isn’t available when autofilled, and this has sometimes been such a stubborn problem that I had to give up and not play.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: PLEChicago on 12 January 2018, 06:25:55 AM
First, thank you for asking for feedback, and providing a 6 month extension of the subscription.  My (PLEChicago) thoughts below:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots  This is not as important to me as it may have once been.  I now have internet access nearly everywhere I go.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles  This would be extremely useful; just like playing people of different styles is useful and fun.
 3. A strong bot. Absolutely!  Different challenge levels of the bots would be really nice.  It's frustrating not to be able to practice with a higher level bot
 4. Options for timed games  I wouldn't necessarily use this feature, but am open to trying it
 5. Options for undo settings  If this would mean the ability to select only people who play a "friendly" game (allow undos), I would like this feature
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.  I would be interested in this, but it is not a priority
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table   This is a must!  Right now it is very cumbersome to setup a game with specific players
 8. More translations (to what language?)  English is my native language, so no translations are needed for me
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...   Not a priority for me
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...   Yes, please.  Again, these are very difficult to see and keep track of, particularly when more than one is in play
10. Option to hide the log  Not necessry.  I want to see the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)   I am unlikely to play on my phone, it's just too small
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)  I would like the option to play on the iPad with a specific app.   The web version as written is very clunky on the iPad
13. Downloadable game logs   Yes, please.  I would like the ability to review games (and replay them IRL)
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)  Yes, please.  As things stand, it appears that moderation often has a significant lag
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion    This is definitely necessary if you want to grow the community.  It is too difficult to learn as you go
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.   Not necessary. If you already know how to play, the online play is reasonably intuitive.  If you don't, the tutorial on how to play will guide you

Thank you again!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: zypherzen on 12 January 2018, 06:27:33 AM
I am here to give feedback ! I love playing, but, due to a condition where I get emotionally crushed when another player quits, I play mostly bots (I never checked but it would be cool if there was an option to replace a player who has quit with a bot!). So my username is Donut Chase, and here's how I feel about the 16 points...

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, I would play this! I can usually set myself up to win with the bots so the game has lost that adventure and challenge (considered playing humans, but, see above)

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Definitely! I find all the bots the same!

 3. A strong bot.
Yes! I would be great to have one that's less predictable.... one that would buy black market or kings court, for example, or have huge runs!!

 4. Options for timed games
I have been trying to challenge myself with speed games, or games with only a certain number of turns so this would be a feature I would use.

 5. Options for undo settings
Yes, and to replay same cards?

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Might try it because it sounds like others would take it seriously too...

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Ya it's kindof weird the way it is now... the player has to join your table... it seems backwards.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not too interested, but maybe french. So, all the cards would be translated?? Wow!

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Always appreciated. I liked the update with the glowing border, which indicates by the flashing colour the type of action. I kept trashing cards by mistake before!

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I use Prince a lot. The log helps for these things, no?

10. Option to hide the log
I like the log but also have a tiny screen so yeah, that would be helpful.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes.

13. Downloadable game logs
I guess if it was a really cool game I would wish for this.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I have never had a problem with any of the bots

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I think this would be cool to have for basics but also to highlight specific cards and strategies.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Yes for sure ---Sometimes I still am not sure how to see the full action I am doing, or how to see all the options. For example, it took me a while to see that i need to select the action from the bottom of the log for certain cards, revealing tunnel to gain a gold for example -but I guess if you hide the log, that could create a problem tho...

Anyways, keep up the good work -thanks for the subscription extension (if i get it)!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: kez on 12 January 2018, 06:29:32 AM
 I consider myself a representative for the middle aged players that are not particularly technical minded. I don't take the game too seriously, I don't have a group of friends that share my enthusiasm but nevertheless I enjoy the game a lot.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Not really of interest to me. I never play against bots, it jut doesn't have the same excitement as playing a real person.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Would be helpful to have examples of said styles

 3. A strong bot.

I prefer the randomness of playing people

 4. Options for timed games

An interesting twist which would also help to speed up play

 5. Options for undo settings

I use the undo option but feel like a cheat when I do so, because I can see how others may not agree with it

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Does not really apply as I only know one other person that plays

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

There are certain players that I come across that I enjoy being matched against, so this would be good.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

N/A

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

More than happy with the graphics

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Not really sure what this means

10. Option to hide the log

I don't see why anyone would want this hidden

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Definitely an app

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

As above

13. Downloadable game logs

I assume this would be for the die hard players

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Chat abuse seems to have improved, shorten the time needed to force the other player to resign

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I believe a tutorial would be beneficial to new players. I was lucky enough to be taught by a friend who had the card game and lots of experience. I don't think I could have managed on my own.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

As above


I hope this is of help

Kind regards

Kez (username)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: dysgraphicprogrammer on 12 January 2018, 06:30:46 AM
I am DYSGRAPHICPROGRAMMER on DO

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I might download this if offered, but I will probably never use it much. I really don't want to play bots. Maybe if it had some sort of hot seat or LAN play...

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot.
Not a fan of bots. I prefer human play.

4. Options for timed games
This is not my play style and I will check the box to never get a timed game.

5. Options for undo settings
A better UI for multi undo would be nice.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Nah. Not really my thing.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes please. Also the whole UI around manual tables is incredibly awkward. I want to name my table and have it's vital information displayed on the list. Also invite auto matchers. When nocturn came out I wanted to find a nocturne dominant table. I had to spectate each table to see it's setup, then clicking "leave table" did not go back to the table list. The whole thing is a pita.

8. More translations (to what language?)
As a pro-inclusion liberal, I must favor this proposal. However, as I am an english only American is it of no use to me personally.   

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Animations are useless chrome and should only be worked on *after* everything else.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes this is needed. Information that I can see in the TT version needs to *somewhere* in the UI

10. Option to hide the log
I prefer to see the log. But log only UI like reactions etc, need a non-log location

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I might use it but it seems like it would be awkward on a cell phone

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't have an iphone and never will

13. Downloadable game logs
I have no need

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I haven't run into many trouble with bad players. I would like a report flag that does not block. Sometimes weird behaviour is explicable and only a problem if it's a pattern. I would like to flag first turn resigners. If it was just that once, then the doorbell probably rang or something. But some people are chronic quitters. 

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
These sound nice to have but are little use to me. I was on isotropic.

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: GaryofPgh2 on 12 January 2018, 06:35:39 AM
First off I have to say you have done a terrific job emulating the game and making everything work correctly.  The only "bug" I think I have found is that if you use Teacher a second time it eliminates the effect of the first use, which I think is not correct according to the rules.

My other recommendations:
Make it easier to look through your discard pile to find a card to draw from it for Harbinger and the like.  (The same could be said of the discard pile but that rarely grows so large.) When one has a lot of cards in one's discard pile it is very hard to see the cards to choose the right one.

Sometimes you need to click on something in blue at the bottom for the log to keep going, like choosing which of several options to do first.  That's fine, but you need to make it more obvious that that is required (maybe flash and make a sound) because newer players can't figure that out.

The AI has some really bad blind spots - for example it never uses Bank or Tournament properly.  It also buys the last Province even when that means it loses! 

My number one hope/dream would be to play against a really great AI. I enjoy playing with humans but find it really slow sometimes.  The AI is wonderfully fast and if I want to play a handful of games in 30 minutes I can with the AI but nearly always win. My usual way of enjoying your product is late at night when I just want to zone out alone with the computer and not have to deal with waiting on someone else.
I am sure making a good AI will be tough, that's what makes the game so great!  It seemed to me that the old site somehow was recording all the games and using those records to improve the AI.  Perhaps you could set up a capture so that whatever side won each game, you could record what choices it made in certain situations and so the AI could "learn" over time from successful playing.

Perhaps make it optional whether to show the score or not? - especially against AI.  In the real game, keeping tack of the score is part of the game.

You need a way to look at cards you have set aside for certain things like Native Village.  If that already exists (other than in the log) I haven't found it yet!

I would love to be able to invite specific players to games, and also to communicate with people in the general "waiting room."   

Is there a way to describe what kind of game you are hoping to play?  Like which sets and level of expertise - or does one set up a new game with a stranger as blind as it seems?

I think having really good players highlighted to watch would be great.

Something else to consider are contests:
a. With a given set of cards, how many points can you get in X number of turns? 
b. A contest where everyone can enter once (using the Kingdom of the Day) and plays against the AI to see who can score the highest.
  ... maybe with small prizes? (or just "badges" of honor!)


As to your questions:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
   
I don't really need an offline client because when I'm on a PC I am online anyway. But the prospect of campaigns is really appealing.   


2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

This woudl be cool and a way to study the game, esepcailly if you coudl reply the same cards against a bot using different strategies.


3. A strong bot.

My number one wish!


4. Options for timed games

I do wish people would play faster - maybe an option for people who want to play games with a time limit that you have to play a card in 5 seconds or something.


5. Options for undo settings

I think it is fine the way it is.  Misclicks need ways to be retracted.


6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

That would be great but is a low priority for me as I don;t usually have that much time.


7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes please.


8. More translations (to what language?)

Not needed for me


9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I think animations are not necessary.



10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

    Yes - see my notes above but especially the split piles and your discard pile.


10. Option to hide the log

    I would never hide the log.


11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

    Not for me

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

    A low priority.  This could be a ton of work for you. Make the AI better first.


13. Downloadable game logs

    Probably a good idea for the serious student of the game.  I'm not that serious!


14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I think your system of allowing me to kick off a player that hasn't payed in a LONG time is fine, albeit maybe makes the wait a little too ling.  As for chat abuse, I'd just make that person an "enemy" and never have to deal with them.  Perhaps having a way to easily report it would make people behave better; I've never had a bad experience.


15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
     I think the forums do that fine.


Thanks again for a really great game!
GaryofPgh2





Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: marky on 12 January 2018, 06:53:46 AM
Thanks for this opportunity and your commitment to making this happen. 

USERNAME: marky

1.   An off-line client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

This would be a GREAT feature.  In a prior online version, I liked how the different sets corresponded to different areas of the campaigns.  Make the campaign interface non-linear and include an area for promos. The campaigns were where I really learned about the cards in the set.  Some kingdoms were horrible, but some were stellar. I didn’t care because I was learning about the cards and how they interacted with one another.  In addition to changing the types of starting coins and creating advantages or handicaps, give the user even more flexibility by allowing them to modify a given stage within a campaign by trading out/importing cards. 

2.   A bot with a setting for different play styles


Having some variation like this would be nice.  Be sure to include a slog mode.

3. A strong bot.

Yes.  Something like this would help me improve my game.  I also wouldn’t feel any guilt for retiring early when I am being crushed.

 4. Options for timed games


This is an interesting concept, but more interesting in a player versus player game IMO.

5. Options for undo settings

Yes.  I’m not sure what they would be though.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

This would be great.  Tourneys should have playable bots as well.  I could see a lot of potential, such as being able to vary the parameters per round.  For example, in round 0, to get into the bracket you have to beat Lord Rattington on a set or variable kingdom and then seeds could be pulled from the score differentials.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table


Yes.

8. More translations (to what language?)

Spanish

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...


Maybe, but get the mechanics done first.


10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...


Yes, this would help.  BRING back STASH.  It is frustrating to “own” a card and not be able to play it.  MF had this figured out. 

11. Option to hide the log

Yes.  Sometimes it is nice to remove the clutter.

12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Don’t care.

13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Would like one, but again, get the game done first.

14. Downloadable game logs

I’m not that much of a power user, but I could see programmers using this to find bugs and it would benefit users who really like that level of detail. I would like a way to capture that final score page as a simple .jpg or something to keep track of epic wins (or losses).  Also, having a game odometer would be nice.  Maybe something you can reset as well, but something that would keep track of the total number of games played (in campaigns too).

15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Sure.

16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

General rules would be nice, but more importantly, some of the later sets are more complicated, so having some general set knowledge would be helpful.  Again, this another reason is why we should have campaigns.

17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I thought the original one from MF was pretty good.  Enhance that a bit and lead it into campaigns again.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: capitalzed on 12 January 2018, 07:07:08 AM
Username: Capitalzed

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. I have no particular interest in this.
 2. I think a bot option for different play styles would be super interesting.
 3. A strong bot would be good.
 4. I do not need an option for timed games
 5. I do not like having an undo button.
 6. online mini-tournament could be fun.
 7. This seems redundant, because people can go join your table.
 8. I only speak english
 9. I dislike fancy animations.
10. I would definitely like a better visualization of split piles
10. I don't think an option to hide the log is necessary - if anything we can just look at the trash instead
11. No opinion on android app
12. No opinion on iphone app.
13. no opinion on downloadable play logs
14. I'd like a difference between blacklisting someone for simply not wanting to play with them anymore vs. blacklisting someone in a more "report" ish manner. (e.g; slow playing, abusive language, etc...)
15. I would not like a tutorial
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: TyrantMum on 12 January 2018, 07:45:02 AM
TyrantMum here,
thank you for asking us what we want !

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots:
   YES !!!! I miss the "kingdoms" where I could play the same game (same cards ) endlessly. It allowed me to not only get familiar with the cards but also to try different strategies to winning.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
    A bot with different skill levels ? being able to choose what skill level of the bot you are to compete with would be nice. Happymeeple.com's games have this feature & I like it.

 3. A strong bot.
 I can't fathom what this would be. A "gentle" Bot for beginners & a ruthless Bot for advanced players ? that's pretty much a skill level thing & would be a good thing to be able to choose, not get by default

 4. Options for timed games
     Yes. I would like to be able to choose random live/human players by how quickly they play.
I choose to play with Bots more often than humans because they take too long to decide what to do. I would like to play more games with humans & knowing their skill level & preference for quick play would be a great benefit. having a time frame for the game to be done (like a sand timer, or countdown) I am not a fan of

 5. Options for undo settings
     I'm on the fence about this as I've found myself abusing the undo button (against Bots)
     On the other hand I have found that often I play so quickly that I don't realize that I've clicked on the wrong card or option until I'm 1-2 steps away from that play. I'd be very curious to know what the options for the undo settings might be.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
  Yes, again I refer to happymeeple.com's site which has this feature & I like it.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
    Yes, definitely !, I would even want a beginner's table and a quick play table as well as moderate & advanced palyer tables

 8. More translations (to what language?)
    good idea but perhaps determined by the breakdown of which countries/languages are represented by the players/members

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
    YES !!!! The past few month or so the animation has been terrible.It's been like a strobe light & so unpleasant that I've pretty much stopped playing on the Dominion site & gone seeking other games on other sites because the animation is so jarring.
I've tried everything to make sure it's not my computer having issues, & it's not my computer.
 and somewhat related tot his : I hate that the game ends without complete play through. Can we please have the option to see the game through to the end, & not just when the Bot/computer decides that the game is over ?
 

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
     ah the the way that the knights cards & such are pretty good now, but being able to know what's underneath the Avante & such cards would be nice. That would be a change I would like to see !


10. Option to hide the log
 Yes, that would allow for a larger view of the play table.
and in addition to that, I would like to have the option to not see what cards my opponent has played. I'm especially not interested in physically seeing what cards the Bot is playing.
 Also along with that: when The Envoy is played I have cards pop up in front of me asking me to choose a card to discard. I would like to see some sort of indication that the cards are mine or my opponent's, as sometimes it is confusing because there are other cards in play that need me to choose which card I wish to discard from a selection of my cards.


11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
    nice feature, but not for me, would not use it, I find it too small to see on my phone
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
    same issue, I would not use this feature

13. Downloadable game logs
 yes that would be nice, also a Share button so that you can send your end score to different social media
sites

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slow players, ...)
    I haven't used this feature, so I don't have a strong opinion, but would think Stronger chat regulations would be a good...encouraging people to keep the chatter down to the play & not the personal, the slow player thing I addressed previously.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
  Yes, I miss the old version that had the Kingdoms & didn't allow you to play until you went through the tutorial
 
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
   Yes I would think you'd get more people playing . again, someone should check out happymeeple.com, their tutorials for their games, while not excellent, are helpful & I especially like that they are animated & require interaction
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: mquander on 12 January 2018, 07:46:14 AM
Hello! I'm an old MF user. My username is mquander.

General feedback:

- I like your client a lot. It's much better than the MF client. I think it's better than Isotropic, too.
- I was very frustrated at the start when there were no ratings or leaderboards, because I find ratings motivating. Now that's more or less fixed.
- I really like spectating games. I really wish there were an easy way to see the games that strong players are currently playing and join as a spectator.
- Seriously, thanks for such a high-quality client.

On your points. tl;dr: I would like an Android app a lot more than anything else on the list.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Uninteresting to me. I don't want to play bots.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I still don't want to play bots.

 3. A strong bot.

I still don't want to play bots. I like competing against humans.

 4. Options for timed games

Seems like a clearly good idea -- it's reasonable to have a timer on any competitive game -- but I don't encounter players slow-playing me so it doesn't seem important to me.

 5. Options for undo settings

Sounds reasonable, but all the players I play just graciously allow undos and so do I, so I'm not sure it's important to me or that it would change anything.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Unfortunately I don't know enough friends to care about this feature.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Similarly, I don't know enough friends to care.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

I'm an English speaker so I am fine already.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

As an experienced Dominion player and someone who is used to reading the log, I have no difficulty knowing what's going on in the current implementation and I don't think it would make any difference to me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

This one would be nice. I had a hard time with the split piles before I learned Empires and I always had to go look up what cards were in them.

10. Option to hide the log

I wouldn't use it.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I would use a high-quality Android app with multiplayer, that would be really great.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I have an Android phone, so irrelevant to me.

13. Downloadable game logs

This would be cute but I don't think I would use it.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I haven't experienced anything that bothered me, so this isn't important to me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I'm an experienced player, so this isn't important to me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I'm an experienced player, so this isn't important to me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Bekba25 on 12 January 2018, 07:50:15 AM
Name: Bekba25
First of all, I want to let you all know that I think you have done an excellent job making this game work well online. Bravo!

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I don't think I use this too often

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I might tinker with this

 3. A strong bot.
I might tinker with this

 4. Options for timed games
Not sure if I'd use this

 5. Options for undo settings
It seems like undo is working well. I rarely use it, but I'm glad when I need to.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Sounds awesome!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Spanish would be cool.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Animations are sufficient for now.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
YES. Better visualization of all cards. My main complaint is that I cannot look at cards from my mac with only a track pad. I have to look up cards on random websites if I don't already know what they are.

10. Option to hide the log
Meh, seems reasonable but not that important.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Sure.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Sure.

13. Downloadable game logs
Hmmm... not necessary

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Slow players is the toughest. I don't like resigning, but waiting is painful too.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Seems like this is a cherry on top, there are plenty of ways to learn.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Maybe, but your interface is very intuitive. The only tricky things are subtle (how do you see what you have on your mat? It took a while to figure that out.) Maybe if there are less than obvious things, a little tutorial or pop-up could be cool.

Additional Request: opportunity to report bugs easily. The only bug I had was when playing Vassle, when a ruins came up, it wouldn't play it, even though it was an action. Reporting that to you in an obvious/intuitive way would have been helpful. I wanted to let you know, didn't immediately figure it out a simple way how, then forgot until just know.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ressu on 12 January 2018, 08:11:22 AM
Hi.

An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I've been waiting for that though I'm not sure whether I still need it. I play the majority of my games against AI because it is faster. A stronger AI is needed though, e.g. always choosing Gold with Contraband is not good (could be easily fixed - even random would be better than that).

A bot with a setting for different play styles
Play styles yes, but not selected by the user.

A strong bot.
Yes (see above).

Options for timed games
Yes. I'd play more online games if some opponents didn't take so much time for their turns. Make it the default with a reasonable setting.

Options for undo settings
I think the only good justification for undo is an accidental click. Offer a 5-10 sec time window for undo. No multiple undos needed.

Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
That would be great.

Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes.

More translations (to what language?)
Not for me. But look at the biggest markets that need translations. I'm worried if the game will generate enough revenue to keep it alive on the long run if only existing players and certain languages are targeted.

Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Couldn't care less about any effects.

Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, would like to be able to inspect split piles. If it's possible I haven't figured it out yet.

Option to hide the log
Yes, a must for smaller screens.

Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Yes, both. Should support phones, which might be challenging.

Downloadable game logs
Yes. In combination with a strong AI this could help me improving as a player.

Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Slow players are really the only problem I've encountered. Timed games would solve that.

Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Yes and yes. You need to be able to get new players on board. Even better, but perhaps just wishful thinking, would be some tutorials that go beyond the basic rules, e.g. strategy, card synergies, "antisynergies", ...

One important feature I'm missing is the option to save Kingdoms/sets.

-ressu
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: shizzar on 12 January 2018, 08:47:13 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Would be really nice. But concept of campaigns from the old version was stupid, the point of the campaign shouldn't be messing with game balance by making different starting decks for the player and bots.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Hell yeah!

3. A strong bot.

Hell yeah!

4. Options for timed games

wouldn't use it

5. Options for undo settings

Don't matter.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

wouldn't participate

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

would be nice

8. More translations (to what language?)

english is fine

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

would turn them off at once

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

it is fine as it is

10. Option to hide the log

wouldn't use it

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

wouldn't use it

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

wouldn't use it

13. Downloadable game logs

wouldn't use it

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

would be nice

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

wouldn't use it

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

wouldn't use it
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: assemble_me on 12 January 2018, 08:48:11 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Campaign mode seems nice, I don't care if I have to be online to play them.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I don't care a lot about that if the bot is just strong enough

3. A strong bot.
It would be nice to have a bot that is a little bit more of a challenge to beat.

4. Options for timed games
Blitz was a lot of fun in the Making More Fun mod. I don't think it should be a top priority, though.

5. Options for undo settings
There should be a table option to always grant undo without extra information which should always be active by default.
Maybe there should be a button which does the same like typing "/undo" since many people don't know about it, probably.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I fail to see the benefits of this feature.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This seems like an important thing that is missing, aside from the ability to send text messages to other players

8. More translations (to what language?)
Not important to me

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not important to me

10a. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Split piles: I would have really needed that when Empires came out. I guess it's still really important to be able to see the cards from the bottom half.
Archive/Crypt: I'd also like to be able to check what's in my Crypts
Prince: I wasn't aware you're not able to see which card is princed. I never missed this feature.

10b. Option to hide the log
I'd never hide the log

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not important to me

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not important to me

13. Downloadable game logs
This is what I'm missing the most at the moment

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
This seems fine to me

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not important to me, but probably something that should be available

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not important to me, but probably something that should be available
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Rok on 12 January 2018, 09:47:42 AM
Hi Stef,

My username is Rok.

I left my comments at the end of this cut and paste section, but I will try to address each issue independently.

1. Try to keep it short & concise
 2. Try to describe your own personal wishes, not what you think is best for others.
 3. Please make actual points in these posts (instead of refering to earlier posts making points)

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I really don't know what a "campaign" is.  If you mean a game against a bot without going online, that would be helpful to me.  I just play the game one on one with a single bot.
 
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I would like that.

 3. A strong bot.

Varying strengths of bots would be great. 

 4. Options for timed games

I don't play against other players, but I imagine that would be helpful if you were playing against a slow player.

 5. Options for undo settings

I don't know what that means.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I don't play against friends in online Dominion.  I do play the regular card game at parties, but I really prefer playing against other players in person rather than online.  Although the online version is much much quicker, and I like that.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

I wouldn't use that.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

I only speak English, or U.S. English, or whatever you call it.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I think it is fine the way it is.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yeah, I guess that stuff would be good.  I really don't understand what all that means, though.

10. Option to hide the log

I don't really need that.  My screen is big and the log is fine.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I only play the game on my PC (Windows 10.)  I don't play games on my phone.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I don't have an iPhone, but I do play the game on my iPad (Air).  I really liked when I could play it on my iPad.

13. Downloadable game logs

I don't think I would use that.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I'm probably the slow player--that's why I like play against the bots they don't get upset.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I pretty much know how to play the game.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online

Yep, that would be helpful.

One of the things I missed was having a rating that went up and down depending on how well I did in matches--both against the bots, and against real players.  I don't think you have that now, do you?

If you had some tournaments that might spark my interest in playing against others--I might even learn how to play faster.

The following is the part I wrote first before answering the above questions.  (Thanks for this opportunity to give feedback.)



Hi Stef,

My username is Rok

Pretty much the only thing I do with online Dominion is to play me vs. one bot and try to beat it.  I usually win, but not always.  It is kind of a zen/meditation thing for me. Kind of like doing a crossword or a sudoku  I like to use all the cards, but lately, there has been a very limited number of cards that come up and I don't know why.

I presume that's happening because I need to pay again, but I've received no communication from you folks in my e-mail or anywhere else--at least not any that I've found.  That is, until I saw the message about the free 6 months for some feedback.

When you folks took over about a year ago, I thought that the format was not as good as the other company's format, but that was mostly because I was used to the old interface.  I now do just fine with your interface, but basically I would just like it to be easy to log in, easy to pay you folks whatever you need to keep it going, and get the new cards whenever they are produced.

I really like that you brought a bunch of new cards to the game when you initially took over.  For the most part, the game plays well, especially for my limited use.

If there was some way to contact you folks through the game for problems--like the same small group of cards coming up all the time, that would be a helpful addition.

Above this I cut and pasted your original list of the issues you wanted addressed.  I'll go back and try to answer those withing the text I copied and pasted.

Thanks for letting us give feedback.

For the most part I'm happy with your service, but I really am not a heavy user.

......Rok
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: corto1maltese on 12 January 2018, 09:51:17 AM
This is corto1maltese and I appreciate your offer for former MF customers.

My view on the discussion:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Definitely needed - esp. for mobile clients (iPad ideally). As I'm traveling often with no internet (plane) available or unstable mobile connections (train, car - depending on travel area) I currently can't play Dominion as often as I would.
Advantage would also be to stop playing when needed and resume the game at a (much) later date.
Offline Client für Desktop OS wouldn't be on my list because most of the time my PC/Mac is directly connected via LAN/WAN - I'd continue to use the browser client and online play.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Would be nice and enhances replay value of games / scenarios.

3. A strong bot.

Definitely - might link to 2.

4. Options for timed games

I wouldn't use this.


5. Options for undo settings

Handling like current online mode would be ok. Maybe auto-grant switch per game (if no additional information is given in between).


6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Nice to have but not first priority.


7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Would use that..


8. More translations (to what language?)

I'm fine with the current set. Wish: If playing in a language other than English, I'd sometimes like to have the English card title available as well while chatting...


9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Not needed as I'm looking at the log. Sometimes the log could provide more information e.g. which on a card was used.


10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Definitely wanted - there is currently no way to access information on iPad with long touch. To look up some vital information via "right-click" or submenu (trash) costs time and user effort.

10. Option to hide the log

Might be useful on smaller screens - my wish would be to see trash and log at the same time or have a configurable frame (log, chat, trash).

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Wouldn't use that but should be available.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Playing 90% of my games on iPad I would definitely appreciate that. iPhone would be second priority. I was wondering why "mobile first" wasn't the way for this kind of game nowadays...


13. Downloadable game logs

Downloadable - don't know I'd use that often - but log fully accessible after game end for lessons learned would be great.


14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Current mode is fine for me.


15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Difficult task - there is a lot of material available online but can't substitute a ftf play or learning. Maybe links to online ressources would help.


16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Sometimes I wonder how a certain card / effects would play out online or you have to click / touch the interface in the right way to achieve your goal. I'd appreciate a per card tutorial / wiki or an instant popup help (which could be switched on / off) when an action is required by a card / play.


Keep up your good work. Thanks for the last year of fun.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Rok on 12 January 2018, 09:56:13 AM
I just looked at some of the other parts of this forum, and found that some of the stuff I was asking for in my feedback is already here! (Like tournaments and ratings.)  I guess that tells you how observant I am, eh?

Please disregard the parts of my feedback that appear ignorant.  I really use the game in one very specific manner, so I'm not all that well versed about it otherwise.

Thanks again!

.........Rok
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: adaptations on 12 January 2018, 10:27:16 AM
Hi.  My username is adaptations:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I am unlikely to use an offline client.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I only play against real players, so this won't matter for me.

 3. A strong bot.
NA

 4. Options for timed games
I would appreciate an option for a timer for each players time to take actions/buys, and the player could have an extra time bank to use throughout the game. 

 5. Options for undo settings
I like the new undo option.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I would be interested in this.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes please.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
NA

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not important.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes please.

10. Option to hide the log
I'm neutral on this.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
NA

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
This would be nice, since its increasingly challenging to play on an iphone, since the expansions involve more complicated actions/sequences.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not necessary

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I haven't found this to be a huge deal.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not necessary

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not necessary
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Ceberon on 12 January 2018, 10:35:41 AM
1.   An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I don’t really like playing Bots, in a campaign or otherwise.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I don’t really like playing Bots

2.   A strong bot.
I don’t really like playing Bots

 4. Options for timed games
What do you mean by this exactly? It is very annoying if someone is taking a long time to start his turns. It would be nice to have a ‘shot clock’ of sorts. A fixed time to play your next card. I am not interested in a game that finishes after x minutes.

 5. Options for undo settings
Yes please.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I would not use it.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I would not use it.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
English is fine.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yes. It can be tricky to see what you gained.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes particularly split piles

10. Option to hide the log
This is fine the way it is.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES! I find it annoying that I have to get my laptop and would very much like an app!

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I do not have an iPhone.

13. Downloadable game logs
No, but no I cannot see the log after the game. Maybe that can be shown.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes, for slow play

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
No, but it would be nice to have the text of the rules. Particularly for new sets of cards.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Nope




Username: Ceberon
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Pyas on 12 January 2018, 10:51:05 AM

Thanks for the offer. I find it generous and didn't expect it.

My user name is Pyas. I play casually, only against bots or very close friends, and only when at home on my own computer. Here is my input.


1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I don't need to play offline, but would love the "campaigns".


 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Yes, please, that would be nice.


 3. A strong bot.

That would be even nicer!


 4. Options for timed games

Not interesting for me.


 5. Options for undo settings

Not really important for me.


 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Not relevant to me at present, but might very well be in the future. I like the idea.

 
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes, that would be good.


 8. More translations (to what language?)

Not relevant to me.


 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Yes, please. It's often hard to follow what's happening without consulting the log. This was one of our major issues when switching from the old provider.
 

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Oh yes, that too!


10. Option to hide the log

Not necessarily, but perhaps if it's needed to make more parts of the board easily visible.


11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Not relevant to me.


12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Not relevant to me.


13. Downloadable game logs

Not interesting for me.


14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Not interesting for me.


15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not interesting for me, but it's a good idea.


16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Not interesting for me, but it's a good idea.


Other input: We'd love to be able to turn off the score counter, so it will be more like an IRL game where everyone is responsible for keeping track as they prefer. Perhaps this is already possible, but I haven't found out how.

Also, the background artwork isn't really needed. Sometimes it just confuses play and makes it harder to see the cards.

That's about all I can think of, for now. Thanks again for the offer, and for all your work.


Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: eselka on 12 January 2018, 11:07:27 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes it would be very cool.
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
a strong bot would be good
3. A strong bot.
yes a bot with variable tactics.
4. Options for timed games
no, not needing.
5. Options for undo settings
it's ok how it is
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Oh. Yes please..
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
It would make sense.....
8. More translations (to what language?)
not for me, but it could be, that other users need it.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No thanks.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
 Its ok how it is.
10. Option to hide the log
Yes please. 
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
yes, absolutly for smartphones....
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
See above.
13. Downloadable game logs
Yes. it would be very nice
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
its fine how it is.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I think who is playing dominion knows the rules.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
see above
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Lotoreo on 12 January 2018, 11:23:26 AM
1.   An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
If there was a campain I would probably go through it once (and try to get all stars, if there was a star system). But its nothing I really need.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I never play bots.

2.   A strong bot.
I never play bots.

 4. Options for timed games
Yes! I would play all my games on timed mode.

 5. Options for undo settings
Yes, automatic undos if no information was revealed would be nice.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Would not use it with friends, but would participate in bigger tournaments.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Sometimes I would use it. I guess I would rather have a "search game with friend" option, and then wait until one of my friends searches for a game. But then again, I am not sure how often I would use that either.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not needed for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I would like to have for instance library better, as its not always easy to see which card you are currently keeping/discarding. But overall, I like the current way. Its fast :)

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
There should be a way to see the bottom of split piles, though it does not matter for me anymore, now that I know them ;)

10. Option to hide the log
Only in a last step, once I really have all information displayed easily seeable during the game.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Would like it, but I have a rather large phone, and the current version, while being playable, is way away from being playable comfortably. So I guess it would need a major overhaul, and I am now sure its worth the time.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I do not have an iPhone.

13. Downloadable game logs
Rarely needed for me

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I gues its too much effort to have constant moderation. But an easier way for reportig people would still be nice.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not for me

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not for me



Individual feedback:

I REALLY would like to see my rating improvement / loss after each game. I think you are using too little gameification in the client. Instead of having a 56.7 rating, it would be very nice to be Lvl 56, and see that I only need a few more wins in a row to reach lvl 57. Maybe having a progressbar that shows me how far away I am from winning / loosing a level.

I sometimes would like an option to only play against people who bought cards as well. While I am usually all for sharing, there is two problems I have with it here: 1) I am not a huge fan of "please wait, need to read cards first" comments, 2) more importantly: People who dont own cards apparently need to wait for a while, right now. That makes many of them leave the PC for a while, or tab into another window. Thus, when the game starts, I often have to wait for them to show up. Not forever, but just enough to annoy me ;)

If there is an easy way to fix this, quickbuy for sauna games should be fixed: If I have a silver, a gold, and 6 copper on my hand, and buy a province with quickbuy, the game might select the silver and the copper for the buying. Then, if I trash one of the copper with the silver, my gold is never played and I am left with 7 coins, cant play more treasures and cant buy the province. Run into this a few times. But still, its a minor issue (as all the issues I have), that would be solved if I could undo without asking permission.


Username: Lotoreo
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Livo on 12 January 2018, 01:06:13 PM
Hi Stef, on the whole I think you’re all doing an ace job. But the chance to provide this feedback is great. I can’t actually remember what expansions I purchased on the old system, possibly only one or two and I’ve already renewed my subscription, so no biggy.

The biggest issue for me is iPad compatibility. So many functions that are faulty/ not visible compared to when I play via Windows. More detail at the end.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I’m largely online all the time, and I nearly always play via an iPad, so I probably wouldn’t use this unless there was an offline App.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes please! I love big money, Colony and Prosperity style games so a quick selection for this style rather than laboriously going through and unchecking/ selecting specific Kingdom cards each time would be great.

 3. A strong bot.
Do you mean a bot that you can choose how highly they’re ranked relative to you? Yes, would be good to challenge myself on purpose sometimes.

 4. Options for timed games
Yes, would love this. I nearly always play rated games but often want to squeeze one in during the working day. But obviously some people are super slow players, or it’s just the way the game works out. A set 10 minuter would be great.

 5. Options for undo settings
Yep. I don’t often request undo but sometimes you just hit the wrong button by mistake and I have also experienced network/ software glitches that are unavoidable. An easy way to request going back, say, 2 steps, rather than writing ‘undo/‘ or whetever it is, would be useful. I think people get frustrated if they have to accept undo more than once.

Maybe when you start a game, you can see your opponent’s attitude to undo upfront so everyone knows where they stand. I.e. ‘won’t accept’, ‘relaxed’, ‘3 times is the the limit’ etc. Would save narky comments later. I’m happy to allow a certain number of undos as I would allow this sitting around the table playing with friends. But loads disrupts the flow of the game and with some cards it’s just cheating frankly, e.g. Loan

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes, again, a nice option.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
You can already do this I guess by seeing who’s playing and putting a message on their log. But again, a simplified way would be good.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Doesn’t affect me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No. I prefer the simplicity.  More important things to concentrate on. It’s not Hearthstone! I think that would irritate me.

However, I do think the sound alerts would be useful for us ipad players. I’ve tried fiddling with so many settings ingame and ipad settings and it simply doesn’t work.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
YES!!!  Don’t know if this is because I play on an ipad, but there are so many on screen functions that are already opaque to me as I can’t right click so I’m forever asking my opponents if they can clarify split piles, hexes etc.

10. Option to hide the log
Not for me. I like the log.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
For both the above, an app would be great for offline content on an ipad. I wouldn’t play on my phone, screen is just too small.

13. Downloadable game logs
No, that’s taking things to a more geeky level than I would use 😉

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse,
Yes and no. At the end of the day we’re all adults (or aren’t we? I’m not sure if there’s an age limit). If someone’s being abusive or slowplaying, just don’t chat back or resign. However, I do think the lightning bolt should have more choices, e.g. select the reason - either inapproriate/ aggressive chat or intentional slow playing. Unintentional slow playing too. Someone might be perfectly nice but if they’re taking 2 minutes to every turn I don’t want to play them again. I don’t think it’s fair to lump everyone together under the same black ball.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I thought there already was? I guess that was on the old campaign version.

OTHER ISSUES
For me, by far and away the biggest problem currently is iPad compatibility. There are so many functions that don’t work or aren’t visible.
- I can’t right click on any card. It’s very easy to buy a card by accident when you’re just trying to read it by long pressing
- the sound notifications don’t work
- some tabs on the home page don’t load properly.  I’ve never been able to select expansions on the Familiar Cards tab. If you try to click anything, it crashes and says ‘error page reloaded’. Plus the cards don’t load correctly. They’re all on top of each other. I have to go onto my PC to access that tab properly.
- no quick way to double check your opponent’s rating or any other log info as there’s no scroll bar on the log on an ipad. Have to slowly drag back through the conversation.
- I’m sure there will be other functions I’m just not aware off. I notice more each time I go onto my pc.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Niemand on 12 January 2018, 01:54:34 PM
Hello, my user name is Niemand and I bought some extensions a long time ago, thinking that this is for ever.... which sadly is not anymore. However, my comments



1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots /
   
Would be fine

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Very important

3. A strong bot.

absolutly needed, I use bots when playing fast games

4. Options for timed games

Would be very nice

5. Options for undo settings

I dont need it

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

That would be a nice

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

very good idea!

8. More translations (to what language?)

I dont need that

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

No

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

would be nice

10. Option to hide the log

No

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Yes definitly needed, it is not possible to click right bottom with my tablet!

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

same as 11.

13. Downloadable game logs

Not for me

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

No, thanks

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I dont need that

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I dont need that

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: juliaz on 12 January 2018, 02:09:59 PM
USERNAME JULIAZ

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

YES I WOULD USE IT
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
NO
 3. A strong bot.
YES
 4. Options for timed games
NO
 5. Options for undo settings
THERE IS ONE BUT ITS NOT WORKING OUR FINE
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
YES
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
YES
 8. More translations (to what language?)
THE GERMAN TRANSLATION IS FINE
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
THATS FINE - I ALWAYS READ IT IN THE LOG
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
NO THATS FINE
10. Option to hide the log
NO
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
NO
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES
13. Downloadable game logs
NO
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
YES
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
YES
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
YES

I PLAYED DOMINION A VERY LONG TIME - THERE ARE ALWAYS NEW CARDS - THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME WOULD BE A DESCRIPTION OF THE CARDS WHEN YOU RIGHTCLICK ON IT! WHEN THERE ARE SOME UNKNOWN CARDS IN MY GAME I HAVE TO GOOGLE THEM!
BEST REGARDS
JULIA
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: vinospizza on 12 January 2018, 02:22:53 PM
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Shoeless Jeff on 12 January 2018, 02:34:50 PM
Here are some guidelines on the kind of feedback I'm looking for:
 1. Try to keep it short & concise
 2. Try to describe your own personal wishes, not what you think is best for others.
 3. Please make actual points in these posts (instead of refering to earlier posts making points)

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - Campaign style play is less interesting to me than simply being able to generate a game against good bots. Whether that is off-line or not is also not that important to me
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - I would love to have more sophisticated bot play styles. One of the few things I miss from the older versions is bots who have different strategies to play against
 3. A strong bot. Yes, bots that make better plays would be good, even just the proper playing of things like "bank" where they often play it first instead of last, or "gladiator" where they don't reveal cards and so give you a free +1 coin anytime you play them are needed fixes
 4. Options for timed games - Since I tend to either play against bots or against people I know, timed games are not important to me
 5. Options for undo settings - I have really appreciated the existing undo option since it is amazing how often I misclick either because I am going to fast or forget the prompt order on things. A way to speed up undos in a game might be nice for friendly games
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. - This is not something I see myself using anytime soon
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table - this would be nice since what I really want to do is create a private table and invite my friends to it and not have to worry about a random person sitting down thinking I am creating a game for anyone. Even while online it is nice to feel like I am just playing in my home with my friends and not at a game store with lots of other people around.
 8. More translations (to what language?) - Not a need for me since English is my first langauge
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... - I think what you have now is fine, but maybe I just don't realize how much better better would be
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... YES, being able to see bottom cards in split piles is really important and improving how that works would be great
10. Option to hide the log - if that is the case it would be good to move some of the prompts out of the log, such as the reaction buttons which often get overlooked
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - I tend to only play on my desktop but as an Android user I would potentially download an app if it existed but I would not put a high value on it
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - Don't have an iphone
13. Downloadable game logs - Not something I would see myself using
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - Since I play only against bots or my friends this is not an issue for me personally, but if I was to venture out and play against others I would certainly like it to be in a nice friendly space
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - It seems like a smart marketing option and I want you guys to succeed by bringing new people into the game, but I feel I have a strong grasp of the game and so would not need it
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - Same as above

Thanks for asking for our feedback
Dominion User name is Shoeless Jeff
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: etwie on 12 January 2018, 02:43:35 PM
Hi,

I 'll try to reply. sorry if my english is not entirly correct.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

would be nice if internet is down, one never knows, but not a 'must'

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

nice!

 3. A strong bot.

yihaaa, even nicer if different styles available

 4. Options for timed games

if thisis about the offline game, nah... and online.. I tend to play against friends, so i'ld rather prefer the possibility to be able to leave a game for a couple of hours and resume it with my friends, the way this is possible against bots now

 5. Options for undo settings

fine as it is

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

personally not interested, I play for fun

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

ow please yes! :D and then only them, not that if they do not react quick enough an unknown player could join, I hate that personally

 8. More translations (to what language?)

dutch would be wonderfull -> online, personally english is fine by me for the offline version

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I sometimes miss how the 'tavern mat' situations are and similar, as those are not allways revealed ahead. making it a gamble from time to time
Also I am highly visually impaired. a little bigger font for 'reaction' if those are only displayed underneath the log would be VERY welcome indead! -> or why not as a button in the screen as several other reactions?
on actual animations, I would not mind if 'trashed' cards would be displayed in the center when my opponent trashes mine, so that would be a bit more 'in the eye'


10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
see 9

10. Option to hide the log
log is important from time to time f.i. smuggler played

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

would be nice

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
no iphone

13. Downloadable game logs
if that means wich cards were set up and played, yes please!

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
see answer 4, chat enabling for certain persons (more than only the current player) would be nice, but not for 'everyone', but it is allready pretty fine as it is now. no prio for me

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
not for me, unless future expansions would be very complicated, but a more detailed overview/library of the cards on demand ingame would be nice!

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
could be helpful



Personal requests, hopes



It would be nice if one could replay the last played deck.

It would also be nice to be able to make some 'prefered' decks

And banning cards against certain friends would be top! (Some of my friends do not like certain cards, other do not mind them at all) But this would probably be a hell of a job ;) but one can only dream of course, not asked is not tried ;)

 



And last but not least THANK YOU for this opportunity! and for making dominion fun on(off)line!

username: etwie
(not sure if this was the same username under MF could have been miebelgie)  for more info : etwiegienie@gmail.com or miebelgie@msn.com


Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jenalbu on 12 January 2018, 03:00:44 PM
Hi Stef,

I bought all of the expansions on-line, as one of those who thought they would last forever. :-) I find nowadays I do not go to my computer to play games as often as I go to my iPad. I want to be able to play by myself and with my family and friends. I never play with strangers, I love your bot, it's smart and fast, so my responses will align with these facts.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - offline is not important to me
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - yes, although I really like the existing bot.
 3. A strong bot. - yes
 4. Options for timed games - no I hate that, I play to relax
 5. Options for undo settings - yes, sometimes the interface makes decision errors on my clicks.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. - not for me.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table - yes, I would love to play with my daughters and friends.
 8. More translations (to what language?) - I'm English, so no.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... no your animations are great - I love your game as is.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, no your animations are great - I love your game as is.
10. Option to hide the log - no
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) no
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) maybe, but iPad for sure.
13. Downloadable game logs - not any more, but I used this feature in my first year while learning the game.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - I only play with bots, don't like strangers, I play to relax.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - Yes, absolutely.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.- Yes, absolutely.

I would like to be able to choose which expansion to use. Sometimes I feel like base game, sometimes, seaside, sometimes I want money :-)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: test00test00 on 12 January 2018, 03:06:25 PM
Hi Stef, My username is test00test00.

First of all, I'm Japanese, so I'm not good at English.
I will try to follow the guidelines.


 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Campaigns mode is not necessary for me.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I think that it is an interesting attempt and I want to play.

 3. A strong bot.
I strongly hope.

 4. Options for timed games
It would be better to have that options.

 5. Options for undo settings
I need that options.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Although there is better than nothing, there is no plan to use it concretely.
It can be substituted by normal online game.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I need that options.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I am enough with Japanese.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I strongly hope.
For me, in the current animation, physical movement of the card can not be understood sensuously.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I strongly hope. It should be improved as soon as possible.
It is unacceptable that what you can do with actual cards can not be done online.

10. Option to hide the log
I do not need it.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I do not need it.
I have no plans to play on mobile devices.

13. Downloadable game logs
I need it.
I would like to take a quick look back on the content of the game.
I will publish it to the community and share it.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I am not very interested in that.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I think it is necessary, but a simple explanation is enough.
Dominion originally has a simple rule, but if it involves complex processing and exceptions it will be enormous.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think it is necessary for dominion online.


Thank you for always making efforts to improve.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: tinoue on 12 January 2018, 03:56:22 PM
Hi Stef,

My user name is tinoue.

The feature which I will appreciate most is:

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11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I do not stick to app, but app has a high affinity to offline play.

Yeah my second favorite feature is:

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1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Of course this is closely tied with:

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3. A strong bot.

I would like to train myself by playing with strong opponent repeatedly.

From the perspective of training, the two of below are useful.

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2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
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13. Downloadable game logs

Then, this feature is useful to invite my friend to this game.

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7. Option to invite specific players to your table

The other features are attractive too, but they decrease priority in comparison with features above.

Thank you for your all efforts for this game.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Hamlet the Dane on 12 January 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Username: Lady Melinda (posting using my husband's forum account)

I cannot emphasize enough how important my first priority is. I don't want to read a game log; I want to enjoy the game.

Yes's in order of priority:
I cannot emphasize enough how important my first priority is. I don't want to read a game log; I want to enjoy the game. I have not played much in about a year because the user experience was so poor, so I really got very little value out of the year's subscription I was granted. I recently came back to Dominion and am learning to live with the flaws of your implementation simply because Dominion is such a good game. Look at the game logs to see that I played a bit last January, and then it just petered off because I wasn't enjoying it. I went months without playing. I would willingly (or at least begrudgingly) purchase the full subscription if the game was well implemented, polished, and enjoyable, because I used to play (and enjoy) Dominion every day. But 40-odd euros for the current implementation, I think I'll wait to see some improvements.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: buggy on 12 January 2018, 05:06:09 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I'd kinda like that.  I enjoyed the campaigns of goko, but I know I'm in the minority there.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Yes please.

 3. A strong bot.

Absolutely.  The only way for me to get better is to play against better players.

 4. Options for timed games

Ugh no.  I already have people saying that I am deliberately slowplaying because I don't play instantaneously.  I don't want that pressure.

 5. Options for undo settings

What sort of options?  Undo if they haven't seen a card?  Always allow undo?

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

That would be cool.  I probably wouldn't use it that much, but it might be nice.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Absolutely.  If I want to play with a friend, it would be nice to have that private game.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

This won't help me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I'd rather you get rid of clicking in the log to do things.  It is not intuitive.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes, absolutely.  At the very least, showing all the different cards in a split pile.

10. Option to hide the log

But then how would I call a Teacher from my mat?  Also this is the second #10 in this list.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Sure.  I'd love to play on my phone.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

sure.  I'd love to play on my tablet.

13. Downloadable game logs

I'd certainly like to be able to review the occasional log to see where I went wrong.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Yes please.  I block abusive players all the time.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Would be helpful for newer players.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Also useful, especially since clicking in the log is non-intuitive.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: teditor on 12 January 2018, 05:06:36 PM
Username: Teditor

I only play against bots. Liked MF's variety of bots and the campaigns.

Basically, I've enjoyed ShuffleIt's Dominion. I think it's great and don't have much in terms of requests, to be honest. The suggestions here are nice, but for me almost solely a question of cost. I just bought a month of Dominion with all expansions. Don't know if I will again, just because the subscription cost seems a little high for a casual single-player (as I play it) game. I'd be more open to a one-time fee, but I know that's not your model at this time

Thanks for the six-month offer. I think you've done a good job implementing Dominion. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: pgfarber on 12 January 2018, 05:07:52 PM
My username is P.G. Farber.
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
would use only if unable to connect.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
not exciting to me
 3. A strong bot.
not very excited about playuing against AI
 4. Options for timed games
Like
 5. Options for undo settings
I think the current system is sufficient.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
i really like this idea especially if it can be done with all the expa
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, I have been missing an option to do this
 8. More translations (to what language?)
English only, please
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I'd prefer it to look exactly like isotropic and be free to play all expansions
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
not important
10. Option to hide the log
The log is very necessary, as exemplified by the Dominion Salvager extention to the old goko MF implementation
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes please
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Apple can die faic
13. Downloadable game logs
that would be quite sweet, but not necessary
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
No controls needed.  It's entertainment to my viwers when i get abused for having  better luck and or skill
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Nope
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
nope
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: michellelee211 on 12 January 2018, 05:25:16 PM
In order for the offline version to be useful, there definitely need to be way stronger bots, and bots with different play settings would be nice. Having an option for mini-tournaments sounds like a good idea. Better visualization of split piles is definitely necessary, as is a tutorial on how to play. Rather than better visuals, I’d be into more sounds.
As for moderation, I think a solid effort has been made to deal with abusive players & I appreciate what has been done to quell that. I don’t see any need for improved moderation, as the problem seems pretty well handled.
The rest of the topics don’t matter much to me (with the exception of available languages, which is important but not applicable to me).
Additionally, thanks for the open discussion. I appreciate the improvements that have been made since the transition.
Username: Michellelee211
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: prospector on 12 January 2018, 05:28:32 PM
Hi, PROSPECTOR
I am prospector and have been playing Dominion online for years.
Some points I'd like to make are:

1. I'd like better visualization of Archive, Native Village and Prince i.e. any Tavern type cards.
2. I'd like better visualization of when cards are gained, it goes so fast some times one can't tell what the other gained.
3. I really like how you can leave a game and come back later, that was once not an option.
4. It would be neat to have bot settings for different play styles.
5. It would be neat to have a set up for a tournament with friends.
6. I haven't ever heard of an app on an i-phone until now, but that would be awesome.
7. Have a ranking system for playing with bots online separate from playing with real players.
8. How about an option after the game is set up to kick a card or replace it after the game is set up.
   What I mean is sometimes the random card picks have cards that would not even be used because of other
   cards that are there.  Example, I had a Prince one time and no cards that you would even want to be
   used with a Prince card...have the option to switch a card or two after the cards are randomly picked.

That's all I can think of for now...keep up the good work and happy playing   
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jay camargo on 12 January 2018, 05:29:32 PM
Hello, my user name is jay camargo

things I wish were easier to do/see:
duration cards disappear at the end of each turn, so we don't know what is there when we play a lot of different cards.
I play on a mac and there's no right click, therefore no easy way (as far as I know) to read what a card does. most of the times I play with familiar cards or try my luck to figure out the card does as I play them.
a feature I would like to have, although I don't know if it can be called a feature, is to have a subscription where instead of getting complete sets I can choose cards I like playing with and subscribe to those only. I bought the whole sets of cards from MF but I usually always plays with my favorite cards against bots. I adjust the level of difficulty by adding or removing bots from the game.

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
as someone mentioned, I usually have internet connection when I play. so this is not really something I need. maybe for when I'm on a place or something, although depending on the price of the app I might just not buy it at all.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
the bots are usually pretty dumb. and you get their glitches pretty easy, and start taking advantage of it. I'm guilty of this. when you play the torturer for exemple you might end up being the only person playing, as the bots never take in curses.

 3. A strong bot.
that would be nice. I'm not wrong, the last client had their bots match the player's rating. so the better you got the better the bots played.

 4. Options for timed games
no thank you. I only play against bots and I'm usually doing other things while I play, so I wouldn't use that.

 5. Options for undo settings
not sure what this means. if it's undo a play, it's already in the game

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I only play against bots. on the old client sometimes we'd have game nights and play dominion on the computer, instead of using the board game we have, but just because it's much quicker to set it up. haven't done it in a long time but it's a nice thought to have this option

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I thought that was already an option

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I speak 5 languages lol but I think english is pretty universal, and my mother language along with portuguese.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I don't need animations, especially if it'll make the game slower

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
not sure what this is

10. Option to hide the log
would be nice, but because of things I mentioned above, the log can help quickly figure out what's going on in the game like last card bought by the opponent.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
no

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
no

13. Downloadable game logs
no

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I play bots, but I have heard people complain about slow players...

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
tutorials are always good, although when you already know how to play it's hard to justify it. I think everyone responding to this is an avid player. plus the game is VERY self explanatory, especially in online form

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
same as above

Hope this helps. thanks for the hard work
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: IceHot on 12 January 2018, 05:50:35 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
- I would not use the Offline client much.  Although I played often against bots, I found the Campaign to just be silly (and driven mostly by the Goko Coin Gimic).

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
- That I think is a good idea, primarily because I prefer random play styles as opposed to predicitve play styles.

 3. A strong bot.
- The stronger the better, but not cheatsy strong (ie. the bot should have to guess at his bottom two cards of the turn like the rest of us).


 4. Options for timed games
- I have no need for it.

 5. Options for undo settings
- I have no need for it.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
- Mini-Tournaments I might jump in those.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
- Seems like something I might use, but not a priority for me.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
- I am an Unfairly biased English speaker (but my wife speaks Russian)

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
- Probably not worth the bandwidth for me (I would turn this option off)

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
- Not a priority for me.

10. Option to hide the log
- Not a priority for me.
- However I would like to review the log post game after finding out I lost.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
- Sounds Smart although Im an iPhone guy at the moment

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
- not a priority for me, but I would run it on an iPhone if available

13. Downloadable game logs
- Seems smart for debugging and verifying the validity of complaints

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
- Necessary some people take the game too serious and get offensive.  The game requires community and the bad apples must go!!!!

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
- Not necessary for me, but wouldnt hurt.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
- The UI tutorial is probably more important.

NUMBER ONE Improvement needed (IMO).....
Need to be able to hover slide the cards in the discard pile, so the one you are about to click on slides up above the overlaying cards so you can read the card title.  The discard pile can get big (30+ discarded cards is a fairly common game state even with elite players)  You often need to interact with it, but the overlaid cards makes it impossible to be certain you are selecting the right card because you can not read the card title.  At the very least you need a bubble over with the card name text.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Donitsa on 12 January 2018, 06:02:03 PM
Hi Stef,

I appreciate the gesture to offer more to those of us who did purchase thinking we had a lifetime of online Dominion.  I am not a big gamer. I love playing board games and Dominion is one of my favourite. I would choose playing with people around my kitchen table before playing online. Sadly, my kids live in another city so I mainly play online with a bot or occasionally with family online.  I would be happy to play offline forever if that was an option.  The other games I play offline are Terra Mystica, Ticket to Ride, Splendor, and Puerto Rico.  I paid far less for each of these apps on my iPad and have them forever.  I own 6 Dominion board game expansions and hope to one day have them all.  I will most likely never be willing to pay another lump sum to play Dominion online and will either continue to play with the base set online or play my other online games.  I think it would be nice for people who purchase the physical board game to have some benefit or discount to purchase the game online.  Here are the answers to your wishlist questions:

1. I wish I could play offline on an iPad app.  I currently find playing on my iPad glitchy.  There are a lot of times it is hard to click on cards especially when you have a lot of them in play.  The log should be optional as it takes up a lot of space.  I find I'm always moving the screen around to fit the game.

2. I liked playing the old version of Dominion with the Bots.  I don't really find it a challenge to play with your  Bot as I always win.  It would be great if there were different options for Bot difficulty or styles.

3. 3 Different levels of Bot strength would be great.  Easy, Medium, Hard

4. I don't care about timed games

5.  The undo is nice especially when you accidentally click on the wrong card.  I wish I could undo when I play a card like Masquerade and I accidentally clicked on a card I meant to play instead of give away.

6.  Tournaments with my family online would be fun.

7. I like how Ticket to Ride is set up for inviting friends to play.

8.  Not sure about this as it doesn't apply to me personally.

9.  I don't care how fancy the animation is only if it loads well and doesn't glitch on my iPad

10  Not sure about this.  I think it's fine.

10  Definitely the option to hide the log and make the cards bigger and fit in the screen on the iPad

11  Not sure.  I haven't used the Android app

12  I would like and iPad app.  I'm not sure if I would use my iPhone as I think the cards would be too small.

13  I'm not sure what downloadable game logs means?

14  I have played thousands of hours with just a Bot but not much with other players outside my family so I don't know much about this.  If I played with another player, I would rather not chat with them.  If they are too slow the game should warn them then boot them off.

15  Tutorials are good for Dominion

16  An online tutorial would be good.  I do better playing the board game and learning the cards then trying it online.  I found the Nocturne trial challenging but after playing the board game version, I wish I could have a chance to try it again online.

I hope you will find my feedback helpful.  I have played a lot of dominion online but I'm not as tech savvy as some of the others.  Thank you for offering us another 6 months of playing.  I really appreciate it!

My user name is Donitsa.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: nombex on 12 January 2018, 06:22:23 PM
I'm not reading the rest of the replies, so I'm sure all of the things I write will echo others.  But there will be more statistics.  I've spent a fair bit of time and money on online and offline Dominion, and I'm pretty pleased with the current offering.  Being able to preview and buy Nocturne was great.

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
  - only interesting if there's an app version; if I'm on a PC, I'm online and up for playing with people.
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2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
- low priority, but I'd enjoy having app bots
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3. A strong bot.
- again, low priority, but sometimes I do enjoy a quick totally offline game, and would appreciate a challenge.
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4. Options for timed games
- appealing; I don't see a lot of griefing, but sometimes I'm in a rush
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5. Options for undo settings
- undo is pretty great as it is

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
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 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
- yes, please.  Make it as easy as possible for me to play with friends, like I might in real life
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8. More translations (to what language?)
- don't care; I'm a monolingual American
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9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
- I don't think I care, either way
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10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
- being able to right-click twice to know the rest of a pile would be good.  Novices would be sad if they don't know what comes after Gladiator, for example.
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10. Option to hide the log
- sounds so simple you might as well
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11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
- I tried it recently on my Pixel 2 XL and it was good, though I had to rotate my screen landscape to chat and portrait to play effectively.  Please improve it incrementally.  Overall, I was impressed, though.
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12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
- I don't care.
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13. Downloadable game logs
- permalink is best.  I should be able to type in a game ID and know I can link my friends to it.
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14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
- let me put in a friend/blacklist DURING THE GAME, so I don't have to remember to do it after the game ends.
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15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
- I don't care much, personally.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: amber2980 on 12 January 2018, 06:23:02 PM
My username is Khaleesi

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots:

I like to play against bots, I am not, however; a fan of campaigns. Unless finishing it would earn store credit or accessing a different expansion.


 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles:

Yes!!! The bots that you can play against now do the same thing all the time so you know how to easily beat them.


 3. A strong bot:

See #2.

 4. Options for timed games:

I dunno. I'd need a little more info. Does the player with the higher score at the end win?

 5. Options for undo settings:

The undo is fine the way that it is now, I think.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends:

This would be a nice option. I would love to play in tourneys.


 7. Option to invite specific players to your table:

Is this the same as playing with a friend?


 8. More translations (to what language?):

Does not apply to me.


 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Personally, I turn off the animations. They make the game slower to load, etc. I honestly liked the old, text-only Dominion game.


10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

See #9

10. Option to hide the log:

This would be nice. Especially the chat.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

It would be nice if I could play on my phone and not just a tablet (which I don't because I don't own one).

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

DNA

13. Downloadable game logs

I do not care about this at all.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slow players, ...)

Seems okay as it is.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

These seem like the same question to me. If it is online then, you would want an interface tutorial. One nice thing to have would be a place to see how cards interact. Like throne room/outpost. Have some info that you won't get to play outpost 2 times in a row, but rather that you will draw 3 cards on your next turn. Things like that...

Bonus: I would like to have opponents at the table be able to pick a card from the deck that they don't want to play with. This could be an option that you would choose when setting up your matching options.

I absolutely love this game. And I love being able to play online since set up and game play is so easy and fast.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Kilgore on 12 January 2018, 06:28:41 PM
5. Options for undo settings
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Kilgore both on the forums and in the game.

The above quoted features are the only ones from your list that I care about. Undo specifically should be default allowable by me if the other player hasn't seen the future. Or, if the player has seen the future and undo is allowed the future should be undone (ie. their draw stack should be reshuffled after undo so that knowing the draw stack is useless).

Something that would trump all of the above would be faster gameplay. Smaller assets and better gameplay over slow connections, the elision of non-choices, no animations if desired, would all be great.

Also good moderation -- particularly the ability to rate others on speed of play, politeness, a global ban list that I could join to just ban any player that multiple others have banned, would be great to reduce the # of games that start with children who think that a bad shuffle deserves to be followed by abusive language or slowplay.

Finding people compatible matches would be nice moderation too -- let people classify themselves as "chatty", "fast", "newbie", etc., so that people can find games they want to be in would be more useful than new features.

Christmas has brought an onslaught of new players and I very much appreciated the ability to 'wait for expansions' in the advanced seek options. One can only take so much of base.

Making the game run fast on mobile would be a big win. It's essentially unplayable on iPad.

Thanks for the subscription extension. I admit I am tired of paying for Dominion over and over again, though I understand this isn't in your control.

Kilgore
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Clearlyclarely on 12 January 2018, 06:41:30 PM
My username is clearlyclarely. Thank you for soliciting feedback. Here are my thoughts:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would love this feature. I do not always have access to internet, and it would be fun to be able to play offline. In order to enjoy this, I would like to have stronger bots. Would there be any way to play offline two-player? Like if I'm on a road trip or airplane and we pass the iPad back and forth? I would adore that!!!
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I would enjoy this feature. In the old version there was the attack style bot, the big money style bot, etc. I enjoyed playing against a variety of different play styles to work on my own strategies.
 3. A strong bot.
Absolutely! I have had several stalemates with the current bot, or something where the bot just keeps doing the same thing over and over like playing apprentice when it's down to one card and buying a copper each turn. I would appreciate something more challenging and "smart".
 4. Options for timed games
I do not care about this feature.
 5. Options for undo settings
It would be great to auto-allow undo for moves that don't draw or reveal anything. Or before a game begins the players could select the settings. However, it would be nice to allow undo on a case-by-case basis if you provide explanation for instance, even when new info has been revealed.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yeah, this would be fun, even though I haven't really thought about it much before.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Please implement this feature! I do not like the current way tables are laid out such that you can only have a random opponent or if I start a table for a friend to join me, random people can enter and I have to boot them :(
 8. More translations (to what language?)
I wouldn't use this feature
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I think it's okay as is, but I would be interested in seeing what you come up with.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
We absolutely need these.
10. Option to hide the log
I am not sure I would use this feature. I reference the log all the time.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I have an iPhone
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would like this feature. I don't necessarily want an app unless it's available for offline play. Otherwise, I would just like to see a better layout. Right now it is tough to see everything since it's just a miniature version of the desktop app. It is tough to use the chat feature too, since everything is so small. The web version works well on my iPad, I should say. The only thing is that it sometimes cuts off the chat bar where I am typing when I have the keyboard pulled up.
13. Downloadable game logs
This would be cool but not a gamechanger for me.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I would like to see more development here. It would be nice to be able to submit a comment when you blacklist someone.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not needed for me.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not needed for me.

Other suggestions: 1) Make settings available in-game, for instance turning on/off music/sound effects. 2) I would also like to be able to click on a card description in the log in order to see the card. This would be especially helpful for the new boon/hex cards. 3) In the old version (before Making Fun I think?) there was an option to play campaigns through the expansions. I really enjoyed playing those pre-set kingdoms in order to learn the cards well for each expansion. 4) Ability to ban cards (e.g. possession).

Thanks for giving us the chance to extend our dominion membership for free. I was bummed when Making Fun went down, but overall I think your service is working well. We just still have some kinks to work out. Looking forward to the offline version!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jim1979 on 12 January 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Hi,
My username is: jim1979

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I suppose that could be useful in some circumstances, but online access is much more ubiquitous than it used to be. I have a chromebook, so I'm always online.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Yes.

 3. A strong bot.

Yes. There are some cards the bot won't use. It is rather predictable.

 4. Options for timed games

I don't find this option particularly necessary or appealing.

 5. Options for undo settings

Sure.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

That sounds like a good idea.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table.

Yes.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

I'm a native English speaker and I know people who are not who learn enough to play video games. That said, and considering the importance of text to this game, I'm sure the more languages offered, the better for your potential sales.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

It's the strategy of the game that I like (I played first with actual cards). I don't need anything too shiny.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes, that could be useful.

10. Option to hide the log

Sure, why not?

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Sure.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Sure.

13. Downloadable game logs

I don't need this option.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I usually just play against bots. But, yes, that sounds helpful.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I don't need one.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I don't need one.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: nbluer on 12 January 2018, 07:03:51 PM
Hey there -- love Dominion. Username is "Nasty Miyagi." I was fully aware it would be subscription after MF lost its license. Didn't plan on paying when the free year ran out, but it's so much fun I'm happy to do so now ... Have loved the free play and access to all the expansions (even if I don't always understand them). Thanks for all your hard work!

Re your questions:

1. Don't care either way.
2. Yes.
3. YES! The Bot that just buys gold, and that just Contrabands gold, is not very AI.
4. So long as laggards are forced to resign, no. If you implement, I'd have it be an option (new cards + a timer would be a bummer).
5. Maybe a list of recent moves to show how far back you want to undo? Having to request three or four times to get to the stage you want is clunky.
6. Agnostic.
7. Sure.
8. N/A for me.
9. Agnostic. I kind of like the old school feel. That said, a slicker interface may appeal to more users, increasing your business and making the community bigger and better ...
10. Yeah, I think that would be nice. If you do hide it, I would put turn order at the top for the purposes of figuring out if you can tie or not. In fact, it would be nice to have this feature even with the log, so we don't have to scroll through it.
11. Agnostic.
12. Agnostic.
13. Agnostic.
14. Part of me says yes, part says no. I think self policing is pretty good. I ban players I don't like. It would be nice to be able to flag or rate a player who resigns often (especially on random table generators -- they see the cards, they don't like them, they bounce) without outright banning them. I think it would be useful for us to see if a player, upon sitting down at the table with them, is a serial quitter or not. A rating system is also ripe for abuse, so maybe just leave it as is? Dunno if my answer here is helpful ...
15. Not a priority for me.
16. Ditto.

One thing not listed: I'd love for it to be easier to experiment with new expansions in a stress free game, either vs a bot or another expansion newbie. I have a feeling this is doable, but it would be nice to have one-click access to this feature. Could be as easy as putting an "Expansion practice match" button on the home page. Then you click which expansion(s) you want to mess with, and then you're matched or joined by a friend or bot. I get all sweaty when I see new cards and have no idea what to do with them!

Thanks again for a fantastic product. When I first saw it, post MF, I thought, "Oh, no." But this version is so much better than MF's. Truly. It was so easy to make simple and dumb mistakes in the MF version. That is not the case with yours.

Cheers,

NM
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: nbluer on 12 January 2018, 07:09:29 PM
"Nasty Miyagi" here again. I missed one of your #10. questions (of which there are two). So:

10. (re split piles, etc). YES, PLEASE!

Also, move log clicks to pop ups in the middle of the table, please.

Thanks,

NM
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: sigweaver on 12 January 2018, 07:18:03 PM
Username: sigweaver
I don't know if I'm one of the people this qualifies for, but I'll respond anyway.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Not of interest to me, having played many tabletop games in app/online form, although I appreciate it's an option, I get bored of playing against something that's running a script. At top levels of play, it's easy to predict and "game" the AI. (I'm not top at Dominion, but was a competitive Catan player, and get super bored of playing the bots).

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
If you do it, yes, this is better than just one script that all bots run. Carcassonne does a great job with this, for example.

 3. A strong bot.
As strong as you can make it, yes!

 4. Options for timed games
Yep might as well, lots of people like fast play. It's probably one of the most common complains in in-game chat. "play faster please".

 5. Options for undo settings
I like the current setup of undo needing to be validated by other players. Maybe a way to toggle so it is/is not an option for any more that reveals information.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes! This would be awesome! Friends, and also rando's. I'd love if I could play a mini tournament any time.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I don't care but I'm sure lots of people would want this and it would make sense.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
n/a for me, only need English.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Hmmmm...maybe, but not at the expense of slowing down play. Maybe if you can toggle them on off.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes please, anything you can do here. And maybe I just don't know where it is, but ability to view the various mats.

10. Option to hide the log
Sure, maybe just minimize it to the side.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
n/a for me, but yeah seems like it'd make sense.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes. I would play it all the time. Was playing the MF one a lot.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not of interest for me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes, maybe more ways to deal with slow players, maybe a setting people can agree to before starting the game of how long before a "time out" can be dealt with.
I don't mind swearing in the chats, and actually like it, but derogatory language should absolutely not be allowed!

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not of need or interest to me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Yeah, with any product, you want people to be able to use that version of it, so where buttons are and how to change settings should be explained some how some way.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: LadyElle on 12 January 2018, 07:50:01 PM
I am an original MF client and already paid for 2018 subscription so I could continue to play.

1. I would love an offline client to play bots
2. Yes, this sounds like a nice option.
3. It would be nice to have levels of play with bots
4. This doesn't interest me
5. Do we not already have an undo?
6. This sound nice. I would love an option to just include my friends when setting up games. I hate having to kick people out when trying to start a private game. MF had a great option for private games.
7. Yes! As I stated in #6. I do not like to play strangers. My husband and I only play bots or personal friends with Dominion online.
8. N/A for me. English is my language.
9. Yes!!! I thought the MF interface was much easier visually. It took me a long time to get used to current visuals. Seeing what my opponent buys more easily would be a great feature. Now, I have to see it upside down or go read what they bought. This shouldn't be upside down. MF was much easier for me.
10. Yes! I would like to see the board filled more visually with cards and options. Actions that just show up in fine print on the log are difficult to read. These options should be much easier to see and understand. Hidden below the log in small fine print is not ideal at all, especially for new players who are just learning the game. You have to know to look for the options there and to click on them.
10 (again?) Hiding the log would be a great option
11. Not applicable to me
12. I would LOVE an iPad or iPhone app!!!!!!!!!!!!
13. nice, not necessary. Not a priority on my wish list.
14 No opinion, as I don't play strangers
15 Yes!
16 Yes, I loved MF's practice games where you went through the kingdoms. I forgot the name of it, but it was a fantastic way to learn the game.

*I am grateful that this game is still available on line. We play often. I do wish the interface was visually easier to look at. The MF version was easier on my eyes and easier for new players to learn with. What I do miss greatly is the option to replay the same exact cards after playing a game. You used to be able to play the same cards as a type of retry with the bots or change the cards. When I find a fun or difficult hand with the bots or my friends, it would be nice to just play it again.
Also, I love the MF option of creating card sets for games. We would pick various table layouts and play the ones we were in the mood for.
Thank you for listening to our input.
It did seem unfair that we thought we had a lifetime subscription, then just had to pay again.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Sia Koquima on 12 January 2018, 07:51:52 PM
Hi, username SiaKoquima

Thank you for doing this! My family and I are avid gamers IRL and Dominion is my personal favorite game because each game can be different based on the cards.  We own almost all the expansions in our home and I purchased all available through MF.  The games aren't cheap, and I appreciate that you are trying to compensate those of us who purchased the Dominion games.  I play Dominion online almost every day as a way to unwind and relax when I have the time!

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would enjoy playing offline campaigns when I don't have time to engage in a game with real people or just to practice playing the various kingdoms.  I would feel comfortable allowing my tweens to play the offline version as we don't allow the kids to play online games with chat features.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Variation is what makes the game fun when you play against real people, a predictable bot wouldn't be very much fun.
 3. A strong bot.
Boss bots would be a fun challenge.
 4. Options for timed games
Yes!! As a busy mom of 4, sometimes I only have 10-20 minutes I can sit down and play a game or two while the babies are napping. I would appreciate a timed game because you would have to play quickly and finish it.  It is so frustrating to play against someone who takes 3-5 minutes to play a basic hand.
 5. Options for undo settings
Undo is helpful when you mis-click. I play friendly games and willing to give people any reasonable undo options as I would IRL if playing with friends.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Sounds like a fun option!
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, it is difficult to see what friends are online except in the opening matching section as well.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
This is necessary, especially if the cards are new to a player, you have no idea what the other card in the pile are when there is no way to view them.
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
An app would be great!  I have many other board card/games that I play in app version - Ticket to Ride, Splendor, Star realms, Ascension, Pandemic, etc. Since Dominion is my favorite game, I would of course be playing it the most!
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't have an iPhone.
13. Downloadable game logs
wouldn't use
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes, I typically just ignore/block players who try to ruin the game and don't play with them again.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Would be helpful for new players, it can be intimidating if you have never played this or any deck building games before to understand.  The campaigns also would help with this for new players.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Same as above.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: tictactoc on 12 January 2018, 08:23:42 PM
Hello! Hope you are still accepting feedback.

I have played Dominion Online a few years now and have been mostly happy with it so far. One thing I definitely missed is seeing what the other user is doing. I feel a like I lose a little bit of the "board-game" feeling when I am constantly reading the log. I would have love to see which card the other player is buying from the table, or at least have it more obvious in the log.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
- Yes I would love an offline client.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
- I play a lot with bots so this would definitely be a nice option for me.

 3. A strong bot.
- This is not as important to me.

 4. Options for timed games
- This is not as important to me.

 5. Options for undo settings
- I use undo sometimes so perhaps this would be good.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
- This is not as important to me.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
- This would be really nice. It is sometimes confusing to find the right table.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
- Would love this in Swedish only because I am learning it.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
- YES. Especially gained/bought.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
- This is not as important to me.

10. Option to hide the log
- Yes, but only if there are better visualizations for cards gained, played and bought.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
- This. is not as important to me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
- Yes. I would even pay for a separate iOS app.

13. Downloadable game logs
- This is not as important to me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
- Yes. I would also appreciate an option to mute the chat.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
- This is not as important to me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
- This would actually be nice in case I missed anything. I know in the beginning it took a while to get used to it

My player name is tictactoc. Thanks in advance for this opportunity!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: EarlS on 12 January 2018, 09:13:18 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes. This is my number 1 priority. It's a great way to learn, plus I like trying to find a way to try to beat bot with specific (strong) strategy on a specific board.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot.
Yes to both. High priority. Especially the strong bot. I have no idea if half the stuff I try is actually good, or if it just beats Rattington.

4. Options for timed games
Don't care. Wouldn't use.

5. Options for undo settings
I'm happy with undo as it is.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Meh.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not essential. Would be nice to be able to avoid strangers hopping onto a table that you're making for a friend.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Not for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Meh. Don't care too much.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes. This is important. In one game, I played a Peasant AND Overlorded a Peasant (I needed Buy), and I accidentally exchanged my Overlord!

10. Option to hide the log
No. Don't care.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Neither for me.

13. Downloadable game logs
Would be okay.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I play only a little in the automatch. I've never dealt with any abuse.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not for me. But for new players, yes! Loved the tutorial island back at Making Fun.

To summarize, these are the things I care about (in order)
#1: Better bot(s)
#2: Campaigns
#3: Better visualization

The rest of it is fine the way it is, for me. One feature I'd love is a "replay/save this board" button. Or more instruction about how to use the game ID log stuff. I'm still not really clear on that, and I had no idea it was a thing for the longest time.

(I'm just Earl on the client, but I've already paid for subscriptions into 2019 I think, so it might not apply to me, and I don't care. I think you do amazing work with this game, and I love my online experience, and you've earned my money as far as I'm concerned.)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: krugs525 on 12 January 2018, 09:21:04 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would much rather play against humans, which I'm worried might get worse if people could play offline, which would mean less players online.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

That would be nice just to make the bots more unpredictable.

 3. A strong bot.

That's great... if you can do it.  I haven't played against a bot that could figure out complex combinations, especially with the game getting more and more complicated.  But if someone is good with machine learning they could make a really strong bot.

Why not post this as a Kaggle competition?  There are tons of software developers who would try and do this anyway, so you might as well take advantage of their work, and you'll probably end up with a stronger bot.  Then maybe we can have a bot tournament! :)

 4. Options for timed games

I would really dislike this, I'd hate to feel pressure to play a slog with a slow engine differently just because I might run out of time.

 5. Options for undo settings

I like undo how it is now.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

+100000

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes

 8. More translations (to what language?)

I'm an English speaker so I'm good

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I'm fine with how it is now.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes, I don't know what's in the other half of the split piles and I don't know how to find out (I search google to find out)

10. Option to hide the log

No

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I want to say yes but I think there would be too much information to cram on a phone screen.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I'm an Android user :)

13. Downloadable game logs

Yes, I'm learning machine learning and this would be a fun problem :)

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I haven't had an issue with this, if I have an issue I block the user, but I rarely have to do so.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I can see value in this, but obviously I already know how to play

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Have popup bubbles for new players the first time they have to do a certain thing in an app that they haven't done before.  Also have fewer "click below the log" things and more popups on the screen, sometimes I miss things in the logs.

One other thing I can't figure out is how to block certain cards.  Somehow I've managed to block Stash and Possession (which I'm fine with, I hate Possession), but I don't know how to change those settings.

I also really liked the "veto mode" from isotropic.

My username in the game is krugs525
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: HRHJAN on 12 January 2018, 09:49:37 PM
(link to Japanese (http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2758.0))
(here (http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2759.0) is a list of extended subscriptions, which I will update every couple of days)

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Yes, or some other way of allowing people to practice / gain experience with certain expansions.  (Eg: if you could play all of the recommended kingdoms against bots.)

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I don't like this idea.  In order to improve you would need experience against lots of different play styles.

 3. A strong bot.

Not interested.

 4. Options for timed games

Not interested.

 5. Options for undo settings

Would be interested in player statistics with regards to undo requests.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Yes, would totally do this!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes, this is currently frustrating.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Not applicable.  Would be cool if the chat could auto translate to the reader's default language.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Don't care.  Which you could zoom in on the font size of the cards though.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes.  Frustrating to have to look up what the other half of the split is.

10. Option to hide the log

Yes, if it would make the playing area / cards / text on cards larger and easier to read.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Wouldn't use.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Would use.  Might lose job.

13. Downloadable game logs

Not sure why but I find that creepy.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Maybe 'speed' is another option that could be tracked and attached to a player profile? 

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

The old campaigns were a good way to accomplish this.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I recently needed to access the online help and it took me several attempts to find it and then several more to navigate it effectively.

Username: HRHJAN

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jnnmn on 12 January 2018, 09:52:12 PM
Hi Stef

 1-3. I really like playing against bots and I barely play against other players so a campaign mode with different bots in different play styles in different strengths would be highly appreciated.

4. I don't think I will ever play timed games, mostly because I only play against bots

5. I like the improved undo options. I would like it even better if you could even undo after the game has ended. Of course only in bot games.

6. Mini-tournaments sound good. Perhaps this way I would sooner invite (real life) friends to make an account

7. Yes. Again, perhaps it would brake down barriers to invite friends to this online game

8. I don't need any translations

9. MF did this better in my opinion. Maybe just add some delay. So even when the turn is over, show te gained/bought cards for a few seconds more while the next player is playing.

10. Of course. And better visualization of duration cards played by other players.

10. If point 9 somehow works out, you only need the log for special occasions

11,12. I personaly don't need apps

13. Nor downloadable game logs

14. So far I mostly play against bots, so I don't know

15,16. Isn't there already? I've never missed it.


Other: With MF you could safe boards and even preferences. Of course that is partly solved with the game ID. But it would be nice if you could store them on your account. For example a board with chapel, colonies, no shelters and furthermore only prosperity cards.

thanks,
username jnnmn
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Poseydonlein on 12 January 2018, 10:15:29 PM
Hello, it's a nice offer - thank you very much. I've already purchased a new subscription and would love to have it extended for half a year. My username is Poseydonlein.
Here's my feedback:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I'd love an offline version. this would give me the opportunity to spend hours in airplanes doing something useful (playing dominion...).

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, that would be nice as well. Sometimes the bot really does stupid things. On the other hand, my nephew is learning dominion at the moment, it would be nicer for him if the easiest bot could still be a little bit easier to win against.

 3. A strong bot.
not interesting for me/us.

 4. Options for timed games
not interesting for me/us.

 5. Options for undo settings
The undo button is nice to correct real errors, but it is sufficient for me the way it is. I don't really know what "settings" you have in mind, but it should lead to giving you options to cheat :-)

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
yes, that would be nice!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
nice as well. I don't have my friends on dominion, but could then create an account for my nephew and play against him.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I'm happy with German!

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Animations are nice already, I wouldn't know what to add to it.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Definitely, this would be really good. There are some piles with new cards like "Fledermaus" etc. and you have an action card which will gain you a "Fledermaus" but you can't know what the Fledermaus can do until you have it. It would be great to be able to read the description of the card before you decide to gain it.

10. Option to hide the log
not important for me

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
no, i'm not using apps (don't have a smartphone)

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
no, i don't have a smartphone

13. Downloadable game logs
no. what would it be good for?

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I'm only playing against bots and they're not talkative in the chat. Have never experienced any chat abuse, so not really interesting for me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
That would sure be nice for new beginners, however, not relevant for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Same as above.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: trumpkinx on 12 January 2018, 10:24:51 PM
HI. Thank you for all the effort you put into this:
I have played Dominion for a few years now and would appreciate the following:
An offline bot version
And easier way to invite friends to your table
An easier way to interact with cards instead of doing it via the log as in the "tunnel" to click on the log to gain the gold is not very easy to spot.
Otherwise it works well for me and I would appreciate an extension
Thank you!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: kaliopa on 12 January 2018, 10:27:39 PM
Hi Stef,

I liked playing Online Dominion this past year and there has been a lot of improvements in the meantime. Here is my feedback...

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I actually don't miss having offline client. I played Dominion online even before MF and that kind of game was my priority.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Different difficulty levels would be good to have.

3. A strong bot.
Definitely it is needed to have stronger bots that they are at the moment. Some cards bots never play like those that are somehow collecting points and even when trashing cards there could be better choices made.

4. Options for timed games
Not high on my priority list. I'm not sure what should happen when someone exceeds time for the move, but for tournaments it would be nice to have some limitation.

5. Options for undo settings
I would very much like that. It would be nice to set undo preferences before the match, so when matching of pairs is done that everybody knows to which kind of game they joined. I would prefer playing without undos.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be very nice to have.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, it would be cool to have some kind of "lobby" with players that are online and to initiate a game with someone. It would be good to have possibility to check some statistics for that player that we consider inviting like rank, number of games played etc.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Not needed for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
This is good enough in my opinion.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, for some situations it's not enough visible and could use improvements.

10. Option to hide the log
Not needed for me as I would never use that option.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I rarely played on my phone because it was too slow, so now I don't feel much need for this.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I'm not an iPhone user.

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes, this would be useful.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I would like to be able to disable chat when player starts to be abusive and not receive any messages anymore.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
It would be helpful since I would like my friends to join.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Same as 15, but this tutorial can be short with basic stuff needed to get around.

I would like to add also that sometimes I have a feeling that after shuffling cards I bought in the last turn are very likely to be in my next hand. It just seemed this happens with higher probability than expected.
As for the additional options, I would like to have possibility to approve match and not automatically to be added to the game once a match is found.

My username in the game is like on the forum - kaliopa.

All the best and thanks for the game
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: DivByZero on 12 January 2018, 10:38:21 PM
Username: DivByZero

These are the changes I'd like to see in order of preference:

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Lady Corline on 12 January 2018, 10:49:54 PM
Hi,

Thanks for the extra subscription. These features i would like to use:

1. The campaigns convinced me to buy dominion online. I had played the board game dominion just a few times and loved it to explore the other sets. I would like to play the campaigns again.
6. I would like to invite specific friends
10. Somethimes it impossible to see all the information.

My user name is: Lady Corline
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Masquerade the Duchy on 12 January 2018, 11:06:10 PM
Hello and thanks for extending subscriptions to players!
I've paid for all the sets on the old platform, and play when I can.
Would love to be able to have full range of the sets again.

Here is my feedback to your questions, hope subscriptions are still available :)

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Not as interested in the current bots. I enjoy the multi-player aspect. Never found a bot that could trick me yet unless they beat me to an engine build or something along those lines.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Same. If I would chose a play style, than I would know how to counter it. I think many others would be down haha.


3. A strong bot.
Yes. What would this look like though? I need a bot that can read mid strat switch!

4. Options for timed games
Love this concept!

5. Options for undo settings
As always, yes. Mutual agreement has been working out great. Maybe limit the undo amount to 3?

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Would use this feature, and might even gain more users if marketed right!

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, works with friends list, and used it quite often after making new friends.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Can you integrate google translations? Have it translate to users profile language?

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
In todays world, costant facelifts tire me out. I could care less about the animations, sparkle, glitter, unicorn, shine... I care more about the build!

10.1 Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Perhaps a layover visual with access on a corner of the main card?

10.2 Option to hide the log
Sure, but I use the log, haha

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Would love a mobile app!

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Used be on iphone... would love to be able to play those users!

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes. With generated graphs would be lovely. I think you'll find this fan base may even animate their graphs...hmmmm

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Slowplayers: Strict timed response actions. 10-15sec (hidden) clock to make a click move. Then give the option to boot, with a 5sec last call overlay visible countdown?

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not for me, but would be valuable

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not for me, but would be valuable ;)

Thanks for reading and working to make the future best!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Masquerade the Duchy on 12 January 2018, 11:07:12 PM
Hello and thanks for extending subscriptions to players!
I've paid for all the sets on the old platform, and play when I can.
Would love to be able to have full range of the sets again.

Here is my feedback to your questions, hope subscriptions are still available :)

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Not as interested in the current bots. I enjoy the multi-player aspect. Never found a bot that could trick me yet unless they beat me to an engine build or something along those lines.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Same. If I would chose a play style, than I would know how to counter it. I think many others would be down haha.


3. A strong bot.
Yes. What would this look like though? I need a bot that can read mid strat switch!

4. Options for timed games
Love this concept!

5. Options for undo settings
As always, yes. Mutual agreement has been working out great. Maybe limit the undo amount to 3?

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Would use this feature, and might even gain more users if marketed right!

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, works with friends list, and used it quite often after making new friends.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Can you integrate google translations? Have it translate to users profile language?

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
In todays world, costant facelifts tire me out. I could care less about the animations, sparkle, glitter, unicorn, shine... I care more about the build!

10.1 Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Perhaps a layover visual with access on a corner of the main card?

10.2 Option to hide the log
Sure, but I use the log, haha

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Would love a mobile app!

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Used be on iphone... would love to be able to play those users!

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes. With generated graphs would be lovely. I think you'll find this fan base may even animate their graphs...hmmmm

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Slowplayers: Strict timed response actions. 10-15sec (hidden) clock to make a click move. Then give the option to boot, with a 5sec last call overlay visible countdown?

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not for me, but would be valuable

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not for me, but would be valuable ;)

Thanks for reading and working to make the future best!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: puddlediving on 12 January 2018, 11:10:50 PM

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Yes Yes Yes! I play mostly against bots, so I never have to worry about walking away due to interruptions.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
While different play styles sounds nice, I'd like them randomized (hopefully that will be an option). It does suck sometimes when the bot is TOO predictable. (always contrabanding gold, for instance.)

 3. A strong bot.
yes, I like a challenge


 5. Options for undo settings

Would depend on the options. Sometimes I genuinely click the wrong thing, but sometimes it feels like cheating.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes! I would pay for an app that played the game well on the phone.


15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Great idea, but I don't need it.

Thanks for offering to extend our subscriptions! I have been sad ever since my 2017 playing ended.  My username is puddlediving.


Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: mirtelotte on 12 January 2018, 11:20:33 PM
(link to Japanese (http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2758.0))
(here (http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2759.0) is a list of extended subscriptions, which I will update every couple of days)

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What a nice solution. i hope its a win win 4u2

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
i like to play against real people

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
i like to play against real people

 3. A strong bot.
maybey for when i get better so there is still a challenge

 4. Options for timed games
no thanks

 5. Options for undo settings
i would like games with no undo's so that would be great no misunderstandings and angry people

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
i would like that!

 7. Option to in/vite specific players to your table
yes please

 8. More translations (to what language?)
no thanks

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
no thanks, the beautiful pictres are enough

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
yes please , now it was a search in the beginning. maybey a smaller logg and more other overviews

10. Option to hide the log
yes, see first point 10
 
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
webbased is fine

13. Downloadable game logs
no thanks

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
until now had no bad experienses yet. so not nessacairy

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
only the online version. how to play the game dominion allready exists

good luck!
greetz

Lottte
(or mirte)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Kirian on 12 January 2018, 11:35:33 PM
Hi Stef!  I think this is an interesting way to take feedback, but I'd rather not have the extended credit as I want to continue to see success from ShiT.

I'm going to start by looking at your wishlist features.  First, the stuff I don't care about and would prefer to see at the bottom of your wishlist:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot.

Bots are no fun, I'd rather just play a solo game if I want to test things.

4. Options for timed games

Please no.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Yeah, I definitely play Dominion for the animations!  Sparkles and stars and no, screw that, I'd prefer a complete lack of animation.  Old Skool Isotropic.

10. Option to hide the log

Given I hate animations, I don't have a reason to hide the log.  Though again there's Old Skool hiding all but the last 2-3 turns.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Meh?  I can count on one finger the number of times I've played or wanted to play on my phone or tablet.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I think this is an interesting idea, but I frankly don't think you'll be able to do this any better than what's here now.  I can block players I don't want to play with again, that's enough.

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OK... Now stuff from your list I, personally, am actually interested in:

13. Downloadable game logs

OMG PLEASE ASAP.

Seriously, though, this is the single place where you guys have severely dropped the ball.  Goko had this from the start; so did MF.  The isotropic logs made modern strategy discussion possible, and the lack of said logs in any format is barbaric.  Even if you leave it in a text format, I'm sure someone will prettify it quickly.

I also feel the current log is poorly done.  It doesn't mention when actions, buys, coins are gained, it skips other steps... it needs a rework.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

This is pretty important as well, especially for tournaments and the like.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes, this is extremely important.  I know the cards, so I don't really need the split piles marked any more, but not everyone does.  The inability to see set-aside cards other than Island, NV, and Reserve Mats is really odd and need to be fixed.  Also iut can be hard to tell which thing is where.

5. Options for undo settings

It would be nice to have some automatic undo things, where the game state isn't even sent to your opponents until you do something that goes past that.  Autoplay of treasures and the like.

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The rest of the things you list for your wishlist don't really apply to me at all but might be useful for others.

A couple of things I feel you've missed:

A. Moving decisions out of the log

Sure, we've all gotten accustomed to it, but that's no reason for it not to be fixed.  It's ridiculous that, for instance, calling things from Reserve is at the bottom of the log rather than presented mid-screen.

B. (Very minor) Autoplay of treasures for Black Market.  In fact, right now the "no treasures" button is where the normal "autoplay treasures" button is, which is annoying.

I think that's it for now.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: fonze232 on 12 January 2018, 11:35:45 PM
Username: Fonze232

Thank you for offering a subscription in return for feedback.  I bought some Dominion expansion cards under the old system and then went a couple years without signing on.  I was very surprised when I logged in late December to realize that what I had purchased a couple years ago was about to expire. 

1. I hate subscription services.  I would rather you raise the price to buy online expansion cards and make them permanent.  I feel like this is much closer to the reality of buying physical game (my family has spent 100s on the expansion cards and ect.) where if you buy expansions, they are yours until the cards fall apart.  I applaud you for allowing all cards owned by anyone to be used in multiplayer as that encompasses the spirit of playing Dominion and bring your expansions along for a card game.  Paying every year to keep your cards does not encompass that spirit. 

2. I would love to see an app.

3. I am no concerned in the least with offline play.

4. I would like to see more variety in the online bots.  I think it would be awesome if you got to choose between various bots with different styles.  It would also be very cool to have a difficulty level when playing against the bots. 

5. There aren't many tables available, at least during the times I play.  I think that Dominion is very popular and marketing and free trials like this one would help grow the community.  Perhaps a free trial code in every expansion? 

6. A tutorial would be helpful, but I am guessing that most people come here because they played the game with physical cards and know how it works.  I wouldn't spend development money on a long tutorial at the moment. 

7. Free expansion days where all familiar cards are in play.  Free trials for the expansions (like this one).  Expanding a player base takes effort and giving in my opinion.  And to hit on #1 again, I'm not sure I'll ever pay for an annual subscription at the current price.  It is high and I'd rather pay more to have cards for life. 
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: JW on 12 January 2018, 11:41:16 PM
Username is JW. I know what all of the cards do without needing to read them and have played on your system a lot. In general the advice you’ll get in this thread is disproportionately from very experienced players like me than your potential user base, which is much less experienced with Dominion and your system. So weight accordingly.

1.   An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Not a priority.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Not a priority.

 3. A strong bot.

I would like it if the bot didn’t fail to provide a remotely competitive game when certain cards (e.g., Chapel, Counterfeit, Donate, Bandit Fort, Colony) are on the board, which is more important for the effort than to improve its play substantially further

 4. Options for timed games

Would be nice for when I have less time to play, but not something I’d use all the time.

 5. Options for undo settings

Auto grant no-info undos as a toggle (maybe that can be changed in-game) would be nice.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Not important.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Important, would make friend list meaningful.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Esperanto (just kidding!)

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Somewhat important to me (and is likely to be to more important casual players). 

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Very important.

10. Option to hide the log

Game doesn’t play well enough without the log yet.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Not important.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Not important.

13. Downloadable game logs

Game logs accessible to anyone with a link are important.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Mute chat and report to moderator would be great options.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Unlikely to be important for anyone answering this questionnaire. Potentially very important for growing your user base (I assume people generally find you after learning to play Dominion IRL, but would be great if that changed.)

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I know how Dominion Online works (and even the poorly documented features like /undo followed by a # of steps), but better documentation seems very important for newer players.

Not mentioned but important: better visualization of all Kingdom cards at once. I’ve tried to play with relative beginners, and the lack of this feature is a huge problem for their ability to play the game.  More autoplay features would also be nice (Sauna, Explorer, Torturer to take curse when none are left, etc.). The "personal ban list" option would also be nice.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Ryan Y. on 12 January 2018, 11:51:19 PM
Hi, my Dominion Online name is Ryan Y.

Thank you for extending subs another 6 months, and thank you for ending the dark age of the dreaded Making Fun disconnected games!  As a long time Dominion vet, I am happy with the current state of the game.  My main concern is that the game in it's current state is not very good for new players, which include some of my friends and family who I play with, which some of the points below address.


1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Yes, I would especially like to see challenging Dominion "puzzles" of increasing difficulty, with alternate rules, etc. as an alternative to regular bot games.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Yes, different AIs would be fun.

 3. A strong bot.

This is a must.

 4. Options for timed games

I would personally not use this.

 5. Options for undo settings

Yes, especially incorporating the /undo for multiple steps into the UI.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Maybe.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Absolutely, this should be basic functionality.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

No.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Yes, a game as good as Dominion deserves a great modern look.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes.

10. Option to hide the log

No, but maybe if the graphics were improved.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Yes.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

No.

13. Downloadable game logs

Rarely.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Yes, but I have not had many issues that could not be addressed by adding more features.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

This is vital for new players.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Vital for new players as well.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: JerseyFrank on 13 January 2018, 12:02:07 AM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This specific offline client?  No.  Do not want.
An offline mobile client that I can play on the train to pass 5-10 minutes?  That'd be a nice to have, but not critical.  I already have a dozen games that can fill this gap.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Doesn't matter. I never, ever play bots.

 3. A strong bot.
Doesn't matter. I never, ever play bots.

 4. Options for timed games
Low priority if this is for total game time.  Medium priority if this is for a user-specified idle timer with a visualization of that timer.

 5. Options for undo settings
This is self-policing and a exceptional case to need settings.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes, Yes, 1000x Yes.  We need events with rewards.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
It's rare that I need this, but when I do, it's frustrating.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
None.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I think the current animation is fine.  I would like better visualization of mats, duration, & reserve.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, I don't know the split piles well enough and need a way to figure out what's inside.  Then again, I only need to play with them a few times to remember...

10. Option to hide the log
No, I will always play with the log on.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
App, yes.  I suggest releasing an API and let people make front ends.  I don't want you bogged down in Android Hell, and this would allow people to choose the type of compromises they'd like to make (i.e., I'd be fine with a mostly-text based implementation; others may want a tablet-friendly GUI).

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't have an iPhone.

13. Downloadable game logs
I like bragging, but not enough to care if this is in.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes.  I don't like playing with some people.  I don't want them banned.  I just want to be able to escape the game.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
No.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not a priority.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Tapewormz on 13 January 2018, 12:26:32 AM
My username is TAPEWORMZ

I am a longtime Dominion player, and carried over from the Making Fun version.
Thank you for extending subs another 6 months!


 I am very impressed with the improvements that have come to fruition over this last year!  Some of the style is a little basic still for the price of "renting" cards year by year.  However, I cannot complain about the functionality!  Really a great experience to play - and I do - a lot!
The only thing I really hate is "undo".  That's a personal thing for me though, other players seem to like it.  I expand on this later on in the survey.
Thank you for creating one of my favorite online games.  This site does justice to the board game, and that's a tall order!

The greatest improvement I can imagine is not a subscription based game.  One time fee for all cards or some with the option to upgrade.  One time fee is the best way to go.  But, that's just me. 




1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I don't see it as necessary, keep it all online.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I'm not sure what play styles would be different, but perhaps for learning your way around new cards this may be useful.

 3. A strong bot.
Most times I am looking for online play with a live player.  I feel the bots should be more a training vehicle...not one to "beat" but one to learn some tricks from.  To show you how to be a stronger player.

 4. Options for timed games
No, the games take however long in direct relation to the cards pulled, the timing before a player should resign for not making their turn should be a bit shorter though.

 5. Options for undo settings
I hate undo.  Some players seem to love it.  I think you should have an option to not play those who do or don't like undo.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes!  Now you're talking!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Sure, I don't often do this but I can see the advantage.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
None.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I think they are very good now.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes!  That is a great idea.

10. Option to hide the log
Ya I don't need the log.  However some people like to be able to see after another player has made a quick turn.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
You may lose a lot of the impact with such tiny little cards...

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Again, those little screens may not show off the game as much.

13. Downloadable game logs
No.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes. 

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Yes for new players this would be useful...and more players...more fun for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Yes.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Felendis on 13 January 2018, 12:52:19 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would really enjoy this. I really like playing the online version against other players, but do not always have the time required to commit to a game, and sometimes dont have a good internet connection on my phone or tablet.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
That would be nice, but not a high priority IMO, since I doubt I would pick up on the nuances. Different difficulty levels would probably be useful.

3. A strong bot.
That would be great, I would like to get better and feel a strong bot could help me learn and knock out 'good' games faster.

4. Options for timed games
Sure, but this has rarely been a problem recently.

5. Options for undo settings
I think the current undo system works pretty well, I have rarely run in to any problems or unfair situations.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
For me personally, I would likely never use that. Coordinating that kind of time with multiple other people would be a struggle.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not really useful for me, usually looking for quick, random games. If I want to play a specific person its usually pre-arraigned and the existing system works fine.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Not needed for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not needed for me, but if it helps bring in new or more players, I can see the value in that.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Nice to have, but have learned how to use the existing system just fine.

11. Option to hide the log
Nah.

12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No android device.

13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Have iphone/ipad, and having an native app would be great, but I dont know how much I would use it (outside of offline play). I have tried to play on the web version, and it has been frustrating, so havent done it much.

14. Downloadable game logs
Not interested.

15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Nice to have, but havent run in to many slowplayers in a while.

16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not needed for me, but certainly see the value in bringing new people to the game.

17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Same as above.

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Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: michaeljb on 13 January 2018, 01:12:51 AM
username: michaeljb

6 months for some feedback is a great deal--thanks!

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I am not very interested in this.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I probably would not use this much, may be interesting if some kind of API made creating your own bot to play against the other bots possible. (I realize this is a huge feature)

 3. A strong bot.
See #2

 4. Options for timed games
I'll probably pass on this.

 5. Options for undo settings
I don't have any ideas for what these options would be, but this sounds like an idea with some potential.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This sounds like a double plus good idea.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Much better than hoping they are the first to join your table, though personally I tend to just use automatch.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
N/A

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
The only thing that comes to mind for me here is better organization of cards in the played area.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes please!

10. Option to hide the log
I'm happy to always keep the log open.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't have an Android device.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would be interested in playing on my iPhone/iPad. Admittedly I've never tried it out through the browser, I think I'll need to check that out.

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes please!

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Personal blacklisting I think is good enough for me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
To the extent that this idea can be separated from #16, it's not necessary for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
This would be good to add, especially to highlight how the interface works for more exotic/complex mechanics/interactions. As a "stretch goal" version of this, I could imagine a sort of how-to-play for each expansion to learn the new interface for new mechanics, but that does naturally overlap with #15 quite a bit.
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Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Thorin N. Tatge on 13 January 2018, 01:42:55 AM
I'll be glad to offer my feedback on the site.  It's a lot of fun!  My username is "Thorin N. Tatge", same as my forum name.

Regarding the suggested features...

 1. I enjoyed the campaigns on the previous owner's site and I would very likely play any new ones, especially if they were creative. :)

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

That would be a nice feature.

 3. A strong bot.

Certainly the current bot should be improved--there are some cards it seems to just never buy.

 4. Options for timed games

Nah, I haven't seen the need.

 5. Options for undo settings

I suppose the option to allow a single automatic undo would be nice!  If no new information was gained.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Nah.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes, that seems like a basic amenity and I was surprised it wasn't possible!

 8. More translations (to what language?)

No need for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I would enjoy that. :)  I like chintz sometimes.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Would be nice, but I'm not exactly outraged at their lack.

10. Option to hide the log

No need, but seems logical.  In general, I feel like the log should never be necessary in order to do something.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

No, I only play on my PC.

13. Downloadable game logs

Heh, funny idea!  But I wouldn't use it.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Some game sites I've been to have needed this.  For example, there was a website (Lycos, maybe?) that offered Go and the interface was flawed so that a player could win just by always refusing to accept any live groups, and the moderator I spoke to had no idea why this was bad.  But I haven't seen any such problems here.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

No need.  Admittedly this seems like a classy thing to include, but you said to speak for ourselves, not others, and I already know how to play.

So what improvements other than these would I like to see?

First and foremost, I want to be able to hit a button after completing a game to play again with the exact same cardset.  It seems like it really should be possible, and I imagine lots of players would like it and it would be easy to implement.  I especially find myself wanting to do this after I lose to the bot--"What did I do wrong?" I ask, and I want to try again.

I would also like to be able to save particular sets of cards, as was possible at the previous site, but that's a minor point and would be harder for you to do.

An easy fix?  Why is it possible to set all cards as familiar but not to quickly do the opposite and set all cards unfamiliar?  In particular, sometimes I want to play with only cards from a particular set, and I imagine others would like the same, and in order to do that currently I have to set all other cards as unfamiliar first, and it's a little tricky to access familiar cards from the tables anyway.  Maybe this should be a canned option.

In general, I find the way familiar cards and accessible cards work a little confusing.  Some players own certain cards and others don't, and you can set to allow unfamiliar cards... and I was confused recently when I set everything unfamiliar and got cards from Base and Prosperity only.  Maybe a little guidance on how the random cards are selected for a given game would be nice, if you haven't provided that already.

Finally, a feature to search based on the features of cards would be nifty!  Like, search for all cards in a certain set that offer +1 Buy, or trashing, or +2 Actions, or list all Victory cards in the game.

I recall that sometimes the central info bar with how many Actions, coins, etc. are available disappears during a turn and I haven't been able to figure out how to get it back.  If that's a bug, you should fix it--if it's a feature, please make it more obvious how to restore it.

That's all I can think of.  Thanks for this opportunity and for your commitment to quality!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Amys on 13 January 2018, 01:53:34 AM
Thanks for the offer !
Username : Amys

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Offline client is certainly useful, but I have no interest in playing campaigns. I would play against bot if they are strong enough, otherwise I would prefer a "pass and play" mode to play with a person irl.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This could be interesting for beginners, not for me.

 3. A strong bot.
Definitely needed in an offline client, otherwise not so much.

 4. Options for timed games
I think most players play already too fast. But if this can enable slower games or even asynchroneous play I would sometimes use this option. Still not a priority.

 5. Options for undo settings
Undo is ok for me as it is.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not interested.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not interested.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
It already exists in french, so no need for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Animations are fine as they are.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, I definitely need that. I already spended lot of time on dominionstrategy wiki because of split or castle piles, but I understood quickly how to use the system for archive, crypt or prince.

10. Option to hide the log
No needed for me.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't use smartphone.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't use smartphone.

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes, highest priority !

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I don't remember having any problem with dominion players, and I don't even know if I already blacklisted once. Blacklist seems to be more than enough.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
There are tons on the internet.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think it's already intuitive enough.

I'm also interested by a "saving kingdom option" or saving self-maded kingdoms. Also it would be nice to have a button that straightly say to the chat something like "thinking, i need a little bit of time", when I play against impatient players.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: MJamesK on 13 January 2018, 02:48:20 AM
      1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would probably try this out but not get really into it. Although... I ended up playing more of the goko adventures than I originally expected so I could see a situation in which I would play a lot of this if the campaigns were interesting / added interesting changes to the game.



      2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Zero interest in normal games (non-campaign, no interesting changes) with bots so this would not be something I look forward to.



      3. A strong bot.

Same, no.



      4. Options for timed games

I'm not sure if I would like this in the long run or not but it would be definitely something that would excite me and I would try out.



      5. Options for undo settings

Not sure exactly what this means other than maybe "auto-decline all undo requests" or something like that? I wouldn't use such an option. If this is just another check-box for matchmaking that is basically "yes to undos or no to undos in general" I think that would be great.



      6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Yes. I would participate in some of these for sure and I could see our game night group using it privately occasionally but probably not regularly. I would love to see this feature added.



      7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yeah this would make joining friends more convenient and I think would be a valuable addition.



      8. More translations (to what language?)

Personally I only speak English so I would not care, but I would be happy to hear that this was done for those that would like it.



      9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Won't really care. And I will actually not like this if it slows down the game and is not controllable.



     10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

It would be an incredible improvement to be able to examine the second half of split piles before the first half is exhausted. I would really appreciate that. Being able to hover over Archive and see what it has and/or have a GUI selection instead of text log selection would also be great. And for Prince I've always felt that your princed card(s) should be highlighted in some way - similar to when a card is about to be enchantressed - so that players don't accidentally do something stupid like trash their princed worker's village.



     11. Option to hide the log

The log is very important for seeing things and even clicking on choices sometimes so I don't think I would ever use this nor care that it was added.



     12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I would personally use this and love it if it felt fully functional. Would be great for my group of friends' game nights.



     13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Would be great for my group of friends' game nights.



     14. Downloadable game logs

Meh.



     15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Yeah this would be great. Although encountering time-wasters or those spewing hateful and offensive language has been an extremely rare occurrence for me, I would love some kind of report feature for when it does happen, such that if somebody brazenly says terribly inappropriate things over and over again, and enough people report them, it eventually gets looked into and they get chat restricted or banned or otherwise punished.



     16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Personally wouldn't care or need but I would appreciate that it was added for new players.



     17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Personally wouldn't care or need but I would greatly appreciate that it was added for new (online) players.



Only other feedback / suggestion that comes to mind right now is it would be nice for players to be able to examine the entire pile of hexes and/or boons when they are in a game. Not the order they've been shuffled to or anything, but just a general list so somebody can know what to expect without having to google it.

My username is MJamesK and TY!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: lookinglassgirl on 13 January 2018, 03:30:27 AM
USERNAME - LOOKINGLASSGIRL

I love dominion, and i really like online play.  I bought all expansions, and do hope that forking over so much money will lead to an "owned" game, especially since I ALSO paid for the actual board game and most of those expansions.  I really appreciate that you are extending memberships another year.  Overall, I like this iteration a lot more than the last one.  Of features below, the really important features to me are those that would let me more easily play with my friends.  I do appreciate that you allow up to 6 players!  I also would enjoy campaigns, and getting to play against bots with different play strategies.


All responses to the features listed in the original post are in CAPS

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
YES YES YES YES!  I ACTUALLY ENJOYED THAT WITH THE LAST ITERATION
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
WOULD BE AWESOME - I HAVE FRIENDS I PLAY THE ACTUAL BOARD GAME WITH, AND IT'D BE GREAT TO PLAY AGAINST AI WHO RESEMBLES MY NEMESIS :)
 3. A strong bot.
NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.  IF YOU MEAN A BOT THAT BASICALLY CHOOSES ONLY NASTY ATTACKS, THEN SEE REPLY FOR #2
 4. Options for timed games
NOPE. 
 5. Options for undo settings
YES! 
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
WOULD BE VERY FUN! 
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
YES! 
 8. More translations (to what language?)
N/A
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
ANIMATIONS DONT MATTER TO ME.  THEY SLOW GAME PLAY.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
N/A
10. Option to hide the log
YES, PLEASE!
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES!!!! 
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
N/A
13. Downloadable game logs
DONT CARE ABOUT THIS
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
IT'D BE NICE TO BLOCK JERK-OFFS WHO WANT TO USE FORUM TO BE..... GROSS
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
DON'T NEED IT
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
MIGHT BE NICE WITH ALL THE EXPANSIONS... SOMETIMES PLAY ORDER IS CONFUSING AND I HAVE TO UNDO A FEW STEPS.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: JunkDealer on 13 January 2018, 03:40:29 AM
Username: Shawnk

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

This is my personal highest priority.  I don't really play online vs. other people, I find it a bit slow and frequently seem to end up with people who don't chat at all, which leads me to rather play a bot... more details in next point.

As far as campaign.  YES please!  THis was my favorite part of the MF edition, having completed the entire campaign multiple times.  I love the idea of playing bots with slightly altered game play and rules.  This is even more important to me then the offline client.  I'd even love to play the campaigns against real people.... ie) I play the challenger or defender role.  Custom game play is a huge appeal for me.  I can't stress how much I enjoyed and miss this part of it.  Would also love to see it developed into a legacy mode where previous games somehow impact future games, but this is again a big ask...

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Including a random setting please.  Sometimes I might want to play against a banker bot, sometimes against a cascading action bot, or a balanced bot, or a combination bot.  I'd love there to be enough different play styles and behaviors that when I choose Random I have a hard time figuring out exactly which bot I'm playing against.

 3. A strong bot.

Again variety is key for me on this.  I'd like to be able to set this to random as well.  So if I want to play a strong or weak bot I can, or if I want to be surprised I can be.

 4. Options for timed games

This doesn't interest me per se.... I can see it being an interesting approach, but I'd want it to be with bots.... more of a personal challenge to play faster.  There are too many games I've played where either myself or the other player have been called away momentarily.  I suppose a pause option here would allow timed games, but with interruptions.

 5. Options for undo settings

The current undo works fine for me.  I don't see much that needs to be done here.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

This is appealing, and might get me playing more.  I found the last tournament just too large for my liking which is why I didn't join in.  I like the idea of smaller and more tournaments and would love to see this developed to the point that it was mostly automatic and didn't require the overhead I think the last tournament did.  ie) automatches, a tracking system, an invitation system, etc... I could see this as being a huge feature that requires a lot of time to develop to the way I'd love to see it though.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Can't this already be done in a bit of a round about way?  I can message friends and try and match with them.  To be honest I haven't done this much, nor would I use it a lot.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
 Unfortunately I only speak one language.  Fortunately it's English so more translations isn't important to me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yes,  I'd love to be able to get rid of the log and follow game play without ever having to read the log.  So I would like this.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes please.  This is very important.  I'm starting to get to know these cards well enough to remember what the second half is, but occasionally I find myself leaving the game to double check what's on the bottom.

10. Option to hide the log

I know people who love the log.  I hate it.  I want to only see it at the end of the game, and most times not even then.  I want to play the game as if I were playing it in real life.  Having to pay attention during the other turns and not being able to look back at a log.  As mentioned earlier I also don't want to have to look at the log to figure out what happened.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I would love both an android and an iPhone/iPad app.  I understand the ideal of having a web app... means only maintaining one set of code, but I have yet to find a web app that works as well or seamlessly as a device specific app.

13. Downloadable game logs
No thank you.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I'd rather see more responsiveness in the forums and feedback on plans, progress, etc... but again I don't play against real people very often.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I don't need it, but suspect it would be valuable to new players.  Ideally I'd see this built into the campaign mode.  Kind of a win/win

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I don't really see how this differs from the previous point.

I know I'm a bit of a broken record here, but my biggest thing I'd like to see out of all of this is more communication.  What are plans, what are timelines, what roadblocks are you hitting and how are they impacting the timelines.  I understand that takes time and it doesn't even have to be a lot of detail, but say a weekly post of "Here's what was accomplished this week, here's what we hope to do next week, here's our updated projected deliverable dates on features x,y,z.

That there is still a post here: http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=512.0 that has no updates to it bothers me.  Perhaps I'm an outlier, but the more information I have the more placated I am. Keep updates coming and I'm quite amiable to delays and issues.  It's when a date or forecast is offered and then not updated again that I start to get frustrated and disgruntled.

Appreciate the offer.... I realize this is a project of passion for you and have no idea how well it's working out (would love to even get an update on that... ie) Has this become a full time job, how many hours are you putting in, what kind of payback are you getting, etc... but realize that may be too personal of a request)

Good luck and hope it is successful in the end.

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: celicath on 13 January 2018, 04:05:40 AM
My user name is Celicath.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I play a lot of games with bots, so it will be great.
If the campaigns offer something different from normal plays it will be great, otherwise I'll rarely play it.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would be good for me to try many different strategies, but it should be implemented after a good AI.

 3. A strong bot.
I'm okay with mediocre AI, but current bot behaviour with e.g. Counterfeit should be fixed.

 4. Options for timed games
I think the current 'time limit' is too long, but I don't think the option will solve the problem if many people don't use it. Will be great for tournament though.

 5. Options for undo settings
I'll love it.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Would be nice.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I'll love it.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I don't need it. I'll always have to look at the english text for rules questions.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I think these are good enough.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Great for Archive/Crypt contents, maybe certain split piles(encampment). I don't need it for Prince.

10. Option to hide the log
I don't like it. If the log is hidden, I might write down every important events, which is just time consuming and gaming the system.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I'll try it.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't need it.

13. Downloadable game logs
Would be great for record.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I don't know if I need that. I think systems preventing them is better, like timed games or maybe chat mute feature?

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I personally don't need it, but tutorials should be there if this is the official online client.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
The interface can be confusing so it needs it.


And also,

Chat mute feature
I don't want to hear my opponent ranting about how unlucky they are or whatever.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Missy on 13 January 2018, 04:23:26 AM
My username is Missy

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots:  I'd like the campaign option, although it's not really necessary for me because I am almost always online.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles:  This would be a good option for me because I almost always play against bots, and it would add a lot to be able to change it up. 

3. A strong bot:  Yes, better bot options would be a plus.

4. Options for timed games:  Not something I would use

5. Options for undo settings:  I'm not really concerned with the undo feature

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends: This sounds like fun, but probably something I wouldn't use.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table:  This would be a good feature to have.

 8. More translations (to what language?)  Not needed for me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... I'm happy with the current animation -I don't think it would add anything to the game, and I wouldn't like it if it slowed down the play.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... no opinion - I don't think this applies to the expansions I play.

10. Option to hide the log:  I don't use the log, but I don't think there's a reason to hide it.  Wouldn't add anything for me.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?):  I would love this as long as it was easy to see the cards. I'd love to be able to play Dominion anywhere!

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)  Never use an iPhone, so not necessary for me.

13. Downloadable game logs:  Wouldn't use this

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...):  I mostly play against bots because I can't stand slow play and don't like to chat.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion: Might be good to get new players hooked, but I'd have no use for it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online:  Not something I would use.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Altamont on 13 January 2018, 04:28:10 AM
Username Altamont

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Not a big fan of campaigns, so, no, this option is not interesting to me.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Sure, or maybe just a better AI, or a bot who switches strategy from game to game (and no indication as to which strategy the bot will use either)

3. A strong bot.
I'm not a great player so the current bot beats me plenty of times.

4. Options for timed games
Maybe rather reduce the wait time to make the other player forfeit.

5. Options for undo settings
Not an issue for me.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Random mini-tournaments could be cool, although I don't often see enoug people online to fill one. Don't care about friends-only tournaments.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not an issue to me.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Binary. :P

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Don't really care. Maybe slow down bot animations so I can actually see what's going on and don't have to read the log (or I haven't found the bot speed options...)

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I don't feel that's an issue.

10. Option to hide the log
As I don't play on small screens, not an issue.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Don't care.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Don't care.

13. Downloadable game logs
Don't care.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Don't care.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Maybe not a tutorial, but perhaps a Dominion "encyclopedia" you can browse that explains some of the new concepts that appear in the new cards of gives rules clarifications. I'm sure this already exists but it would be nice to have it close by

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I know how to play.

Personally, I think the game is fine. I very much appreciated the free year after the switch. I get that you are a different company using a different pricing model. The gold subscription price isn't outlandish (to me) but would it be possible to offer shorter (1 month, 3 months) subscriptions?

That's it for me.

Thanks for reading and have a good one!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: yinzanat on 13 January 2018, 04:44:44 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I enjoyed the campaigns in the previous implementations.  Sometimes I just don't want to deal with people.
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This is nice, I would use it.
3. A strong bot.
Sometimes its nice to have a challenge, and no personalities to deal with.
4. Options for timed games
I don't think I'd get much use out of this.  As long as a player isn't stalling time is not important.
5. Options for undo settings
I'd love to have a toggle for no undo of steps that reveal hidden information.  When I don't allow these, players get angry and don't understand.
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I don't have friends :)  This is interesting, but I'm not sure I would be able to use it, too much effort to get friends on at the same time.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This would have been very useful for the championship tournament from a few months ago, I would use this.
8. More translations (to what language?)
I'm an American, there are no other languages after English :).  I would not use this.
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I'd prefer a no animations option, but I do like a clear indication of what was done and that's not always the case now
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
This would be nice, it would also be nice to be able to see what duration attacks the opponent has out (I know there are icons in the center of the screen, but they're not as obvious as a small image of the card on screen).
10. Option to hide the log
I use the log too much to make any use of this.  If the animations were changed to make it more obvious what was done I might consider it.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
This would be great, especially if it was offline.  I spend a lot of time waiting for my children and I'm usually on Androminion.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't have an iPhone, so this is not for me.
13. Downloadable game logs
I'd rather have an easy way to view them online, like goko salvager
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I have found the response of the moderators to be excellent.  I've had to report a few abusive slow players and I haven't played against them again, so I think it worked.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Of no use to me, I'm an experienced player.  Might be nice to have a quick summary page, especially for new sets as they're released.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think a good user interface makes this unnecessary.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: sinatraguy on 13 January 2018, 05:00:11 AM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
   I would enjoy this a lot but it can wait until the bots mature some more. would use occasionally - especially if offered thorugh Steam
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   I play mostly against bots, due to time constraints, and would enjoy the variety. would use a lot.
 3. A strong bot.
   Strong as in extremely expert? This seems redundant
 4. Options for timed games
   Would be quite nice given my noted time constraints above. Would probably use regularly
 5. Options for undo settings
   I can't think of what options you'd add, the current undo seems sufficient
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
   Would be nice but wouldn't use it much
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
   If you're saying - make playing with friends of specific person more intuitive - YES, this shoiuld be a high priority
 8. More translations (to what language?)
   indifferent
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
   indifferent - if there were no animations I'd be fine with it
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
   I think it's alright as is, but subtle improvements can improve game play
10. Option to hide the log
   YES. Would be very nice
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
   I would play the game a lot more if I could do it on my phone easier
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
   indifferent
13. Downloadable game logs
   Only seems useful for reporting bugs or issues
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
   I have no experience with using the current moderation so, indifferent
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
   A must. New players I've invited to play with me have complained about the lack of this
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
   I would REALLY have liked to have had this when the service launched as the interface was quite different and I screwed up a number of games and game setups until I got the hang of things. If offered I'd probably go through the tutorial still to see how to use features that I use infrequently

Other: Ability to upload avatars/profile images would be nice
Other: Ability to show off exceptional wins (through trophies or personal high scores) on a public profile would be nice as well

Username: Sinatraguy
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: mt8359 on 13 January 2018, 05:14:26 AM
Hi<
My user name is mt8359.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots: I would like this, I liked the campaigns on the
previous version.
2. A bot with different styles: I would like more variety with the bots. I mainly play against bots, but the bots seem to favor the same style each game.
3. A strong bot: Choosing strength of bots would be helpful, I am a very mediocre player but sometimes like a challenge but don't want the games too easy
4. Option for timed games: I usually play bots, but the few games I have played people, the wait time can be excruciating.
5. Options for undo: not important
6. On line mini tournaments: would not use
7. Option to invite specific players: I would not use at this time, but could see how this would be a big plus
8. More translation; would not use
9. Better animations- I think that is not needed, would like campaigns more
10. Option to hide log; not important but would be nice to make log go away
11.Android app; probably would not play on phone
12. I phone-don't have one
13. Downloadable game log - would not use
14. Improved moderation- usually play bots, but have not experienced any bad behavior in chat.
15. Tutorial on how to play dominion- would be good for me since I am only mediocre player.
16. Tutorial on how to play online- I might use this to feel more at ease in playing online players
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: cakewalkchampion on 13 January 2018, 05:23:53 AM
My username is cakewalkchampion


 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I wouldn't use this unless the bots were as good as humans, have no interest at present

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Would not use this

 3. A strong bot.
would not use this

 4. Options for timed games
That would be nice... Honestly sometimes when my opponent takes a long time to play, I will get distracted and do something else while waiting for my turn, and it spirals into games that will take a half hour

 5. Options for undo settings
I like the current undo settings

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Wouldn't use this

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
yes, surprised this doesn't already exist

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Wouldn't need this

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No, I find this distracting... I still somewhat miss the minimal interface of isotropic.
 
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Better split pile visualization would be nice, I'd like to know how much is left in the deck

10. Option to hide the log
I wouldn't use this

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Oh geez... I would love this but my productivity would go down...

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I use android

13. Downloadable game logs
Wouldn't use this

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes, dealing with slow players would help. Chat abuse actually isn't an issue for me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Don't need it

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Don't need it
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Mosquito on 13 January 2018, 05:47:33 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Absolutely.  With the MF version I played it exclusively on an iPad only against bots.  In the past year, although online, I have still only played against bots.  I don’t need the campaign part of it – games with random cards is fine, but an offline client with intelligent bots is what I am really after.  If I want to play with others then I will pull out the boxes and play at the table with others.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Yes, when playing with multiple bots (I tend to play against 2 or 3 bots), it is more interesting and enjoyable if the play styles can be mixed up.  As well, as being able to pick the play style of the bot, a “random” bot that picks it’s own style each game would be nice.  Then you don’t know what you are playing with until you get into the game.

3. A strong bot.

Yes, as well as different play styles for the bots, different skill levels is also good.  For me, stronger bots would be good.  If my son were to start playing an offline client, he would need a weaker bot then I would so he had a chance.

4. Options for timed games

I would not use this option.

5. Options for undo settings

I have used undo a few times.  It helps if you end up not doing what you thought you would, but it isn’t a high priority.  When playing against bots if you make a mistake and and causes you the game then oh well.  You just need to play another.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I doubt I would ever use this feature.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Again, it is highly unlikely I would use this feature.

8. More translations (to what language?)

Perhaps for others but English is good for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Perhaps for others but I play the game for the game, not for the animation.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

I find that the visualizations that exist now are sufficient to play a good game.

10. Option to hide the log

If we could play the game without the log (ie being able to play cards from your mat), then I would probably hide the log most of the time.  This could become more important with a mobile client as screen realestate is more limited.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Personally need it right now because I have an iPad but if I switched to an Android tablet it would become important.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I am hoping the offline client works will on an iPad.  That is where I did all my Dominion playing when it was done by MF.

13. Downloadable game logs

I would not make any use of this.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

This isn’t a problem when playing only against bots. :)

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Perhaps for new players.  Not important for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I assume the difference between 15 and 16 is that the tutorial in 16 would be specific to the client and/or the website.  A quick tutorial is helpful for new people.  Once you have played a few games it becomes much less so.  Unless your offline client is really difficult to use, I can probably figure it out without the tutorial.


I’m really missing the cards I bought when it was MF (and thought I owned).  Thank you for extending this offer.  Once the offline version is available, I will be switching to that instead of the online version.

My username is Mosquito.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: YourFakeName on 13 January 2018, 05:48:25 AM
Username YourFakeName

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against botsI
I don't have an interest in this.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
no thanks

 3. A strong bot.
I like playing with humans.

 4. Options for timed games
Yes, good idea.  Or agreements on how long before timeout occurs shorter than the current.

 5. Options for undo settings
This would be slightly good as I have an "always allow" policy.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Sure that sounds fun.  I'd like public tournaments, but am currently too busy to play them.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, funner to play with friends.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not needed for me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No.  Less is better.
 
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, good idea and would save me some out of game googling

10. Option to hide the log
Meh

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes absolutely, I have an Android and would love that.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes, I have an iPad.

13. Downloadable game logs
I think it would be good because I used to like seeing the analysis that people would do of games in the log.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I find adequate moderation of slow players, but it's easy enough to ban players if there's a chat infringement, or more often I just don't like someone.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
No. dominion strategy is fine.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
No

Also, thank you and good idea.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: erictask on 13 January 2018, 05:48:48 AM
For the staff working on Dominion
With a couple of levels, having a strong bot is more enjoyable than playing bad attitude filled players when I'm home from a hard day.  I just don't want any more bad attitudes and still want a challenge. 
Sometimes I forget that I am supposed to click something else before I move on, so having an undo button is nice.  (example: using teacher is often forgotten because it is in such small words out of the way)
The animations are good enough since it is a card game and we play because of the game. 
I think being able to download updates so that the offline game can gain new sets in years to come is a nice option that I hope is considered.  That way what is out is enough.  Thank you for hearing my thoughts and for the offer for the extension. 

erictask
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: erictask on 13 January 2018, 05:49:37 AM
For the staff working on Dominion
With a couple of levels, having a strong bot is more enjoyable than playing bad attitude filled players when I'm home from a hard day.  I just don't want any more bad attitudes and still want a challenge. 
Sometimes I forget that I am supposed to click something else before I move on, so having an undo button is nice.  (example: using teacher is often forgotten because it is in such small words out of the way)
The animations are good enough since it is a card game and we play because of the game. 
I think being able to download updates so that the offline game can gain new sets in years to come is a nice option that I hope is considered.  That way what is out is enough.  Thank you for hearing my thoughts and for the offer for the extension. 

erictask
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: dbrauning on 13 January 2018, 05:50:47 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Yes, I would be interested in and use an offline client. My preference would be for the client to be offered on a phone or tablet (specifically, the iPhone and iPad).

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Sure. I play several other games that have bots that play with different styles.

3. A strong bot.

I'm not sure what you mean by a strong bot, but I'm assuming you are talking about a bot whose play is optimized to follow the best strategy to win for the given cards. I could handle that. I do dislike bots that appear to cheat or are programmed to be too lucky.

4. Options for timed games

I'm really not interested in timed games. I play informally with several friends and in the previous version of the game I found it irritating when the game timed out because a player wasn't responding. One of my friends as a medical condition and has to occasionally take time out to handle that. Seeing that we also audio chat during the game we know when he has to break, and we just wait for him to finish. It's annoying if the game times out while we are waiting. As long as there is a setting to have an un-timed game having timed games would be OK. I just wouldn't play them.

5. Options for undo settings

The friends that I play with would love to have an undo feature. Part of my friends medical condition is that he is partially blind, so he occasionally makes mistakes when making his turn. If we could undo before the turn is complete that would be great.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Maybe. We typically play 3-4 games when we play, so I suppose it might be interesting to setup a mini-tournament and declare a victor for the evening.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes, I'd like to be able to setup a "private" game where only people in my friends list can join the table. When setting up the initial game for the evening I occasionally get interlopers joining my table that I have to kick. I really hate to kick the people off the table, but the whole point of us getting online to play Dominion is so that the 4 of us can play in the same game.

8. More translations (to what language?)

Not sure that I care what other languages the game is translated to as the game already plays in the language that I speak.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I think the animations are OK as is. Maybe an option to turn them off?

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

For the most part I think the current visualizations are good. The biggest complaint we have is when an action a player needs to take is displayed in the log. That tends to confuse my friends as they are not as computer literate as they could be.

10. Option to hide the log

Yes, that would probably be nice, but I'll have to admit that I probably wouldn't hide the log as I use it to monitor whose turn it is.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I'd vote who cares for Android as I'm currently an iPhone user, but my son and his wife are Android users and I know they would play on their phones, so Yes.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Yes. And if possible configured for the ipad also.

13. Downloadable game logs

I can't think of a situation where I'd want to download the game log, unless I was reporting a bug.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I can't say that I've had a problem with this, but I only play with my friends so we're not worried about abuse, or slow players.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I don't think I care about having a tutorial about playing Dominion. Everyone I've played with online has played the physical version of Dominion (with me) so they are all aware of the basic rules.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I brief intro to how the online version plays would be nice. For example this evening one of my friends was wondering why there was a number on her deck of cards. She didn't realize it was the number of cards left in her deck. Getting into the game seems to be rather confusing also. I have trouble walking them through joining the game as I'm providing the "table" and can't jump to that part of the interface to walk them through joining, and I always host, so I'm not familiar with joining a game.

Other: I find it really annoying that the game table covers my cards during other players turns. It would be nice if the user interface could be adjusted to not cover my cards.

My user name is Dennis Brauning
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: SkippyPDX on 13 January 2018, 06:36:15 AM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Thanks Stef! This is a MUCH better Dominion than we had before. Thanks for putting it together.

In order that it occurs to me:

It would be nice to have a better bot.

I don't feel the need for offline play.

An iPhone app or better compatibility would be nice, but information density is a thing so if you don't think it would turn out nicely, then why bother starting?

I haven't had too much need for moderation, but then again, I tend to be a slow player :) Joking aside, moderation on the internet needs to improve in general so anything there would be good, I'm thinking that maybe chat conversations could be randomly screened by users for an in-game prize (and there should be such things, like achievements/badges, unlocking new backgrounds, a little bit more personalization, access to some beta testing of possible new cards etc.). Get unbiased, crowd sourced data on who the frequent abusers are.

the #10 can exist twice in some sets.

timed games would be fun

I think you're asking the wrong people about more translations.

better visualization would be good. Speaking of which, how can I see the list of cards in the black market?

downloadable play logs are something that would not increase my enjoyment of the game.

Options to invite players to a table sound nice. Mini-tournaments sound good too, but I have to admit that I don't see myself using those features too much, since I'm usually just showing up for a quick game.

I don't need a tutorial. Again, you're asking the wrong people. I don't know how many would-be users leave and never come back because it's all too confusing. Maybe you could put in a room for noobs to play against people with experience who answer their questions. Incentivizing experienced players with those in-game prizes might help again. Frankly, your user interface is pretty clear.

That's my thoughts. My user name is, has been, and will continue to be SkippyPDX

Again, thanks for doing this for us all.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: deene on 13 January 2018, 07:46:50 AM
Username is deene. Here is my feedback, a list of the things you mentioned that I would like the most.

4. Options for timed games -- yes I would like this
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. -- yes I would very much like this
7. Option to invite specific players to your table -- yes this would be super useful
12. iPhone app -- YES!
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - this would be very useful for new people, especially if it included strategies.

It's gotten very good over the past few months, keep up the hard work.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: maced22 on 13 January 2018, 07:58:23 AM
Stef. An offline client would  be nice, but I think that if we play it on our computers we will be online anyway (except maybe the airplane, that is when I would use it.)
The bots and AI work I think would be the most beneficial. I like the idea of phone/tablet apps. I never buy apps sight unseen and don't really like subscriptions. I would be enticed with a free app with a one time total unlock of reasonable price $10 or so. I also would want reasonably priced expansions. I am not saying these are feasible for your business model, but this is what drives me at the app store. Some games i have purchased from the app store are ticket to ride and Minecraft(before Microsoft). Tourneys are nice and I would miss out on this game online if it wasn't in my language.  These are some of the things that are important to me. thank you for the feed back and requesting ours.

Marion

User ID: maced22
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: houdini on 13 January 2018, 08:02:53 AM
Username houdini

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I prefer playing with real player but why not to try campains.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
bots are not my pleasure.

3. A strong bot.
bots are not my pleasure.

4. Options for timed games
Maybe rather reduce the wait time.

5. Options for undo settings
Not an issue for me.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Turnaments are interesting only when there are some prices in my opinion. As in poker, the mind is diferent when a price is to win.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes !

8. More translations (to what language?)
Not so important and i speak only frenglish ^^

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Don't care.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
That's already fine.

10. Option to hide the log
Don't care.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Don't care.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Don't care.

13. Downloadable game logs
Don't care.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Don't care.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Don't care.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Don't care.

Personally, I think the game is fine. I very much appreciated the free year after the switch.
That's it for me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Eric83 on 13 January 2018, 08:45:03 AM
Username Eric83

Thanks for doing this. I have been enjoying the game and notice improvements over the last year.


My highest priorities
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - I don't know if I would care to select a play style, but I think it'd be great if there was more variability in the play style of bots. Like if there were 4 bot profiles, and playing against a bot would randomly select one.
3. A strong bot. - better AI would be highest priority. An option to change the difficulty level would be great.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... - I did notice in last game that I had no idea my opponent had Princed a card already
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - yes please

Medium priority
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - this would be fun. almost "high priority", except I think I would still be fine just playing regular matches vs bots or other users instead
5. Options for undo settings - I'm not sure what options would be introduced. It does seem that the undo doesn't always work, although better than it used to be. Maybe if you could select a point on the log to go back to that would be more useful (for bot games) then only going back one move at a time
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Nice to have but wouldn't affect me much
4. Options for timed games - I mostly play bot games, but my live games seem to go fast enough.
8. More translations (to what language?) - n/a
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... - animations seem fine for the most part
10. Option to hide the log - I like having the log and don't think it takes much room on a desktop
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - don't have an iPhone
13. Downloadable game logs - I don't see much use for this
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - I mostly play against bots, so haven't had issues with this
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - I wouldn't use this, but seems like a good idea for new users
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - I wouldn't use this, but seems like a good idea for new users
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: pst on 13 January 2018, 09:04:15 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I don't care about offline, but I would like playing campaigns against bots.
There could be some campaigns with special rules, but I would primarily like campaigns with standard rules, first against standard bots and at the highest levels bots that are tailored for their own kingdoms, probably with the help of simulators.

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2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
What I primarily want bots for now is for recreational play where I don't think a lot about how I'm playing. Maybe I'm just unwinding or have to leave soon, so don't want to start a "real" game which I might not have time to finish. This would be much more fun if the bots played a few notches better, so that would be a high priority for me. But a really strong general bot is not a high priority for me.

I'd like difficulty settings, but other than that different "play styles" are not needed.

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4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)

Not that important.

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9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Option to hide the log

I'd like everything to be seen outside of the log. When that is the case it sounds reasonable that it also would be possible to hide the log, but I can't say that would be important for me, because I wouldn't do that.
Yes please for the better visualization point!

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11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't care.

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13. Downloadable game logs
Nice, but not very important for me.

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14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Not worth it. I'm fine with just not playing against them again.

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15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Learning should be part of the campaigns, I think. It's good to play against bots when you are learning, and a campaign gives a sense of progress and you can introduce stuff in a sensible order. So I think there should be a free first campaign with the base set cards, with totally normal rules where act 1 is the recommended first kingdom.


Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Freejack on 13 January 2018, 09:15:09 AM
Well, this is my answer: it's not about gaming options, it's about pricing.

As you mentioned, we all thought this is a one-time payment for a wonderful game. MF didn't make such a bad job. We bought a base and some expansions. You bought it, you got it, you played with it.

I don't even need adventures, bots and the whole rest of the features, I just want to play my favourite game online. This is not a product that has to be developed on going. Just build it up and keep it running ;)

Suddenly, somebody had the idea to change this well-working platform into a sad recurring payment non-sense stuff. I think, this will not work. Not for this pricing model anyway. I would agree to pay 50 bucks for a lifetime option or MAYBE 10 bucks for a year, but not 50 bucks every year. I decided to get out of this and I even think, this will not work the way you intended. But maybe, I am wrong...

P.S. No need to think about spending me a half-year free gaming period. I won't use it. I am done.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: LasseBJ on 13 January 2018, 09:31:22 AM
My Username: LasseBJ
My Thoughts:
I Would like to be able to click a button and see all the cards in the current game with the text visible.
+
I Would love to be able to save my choice of cards to be included in a game so i could play the same settings again later.
+
Familiar cards (I like this feature) but i would like an Accept all cards button to reset choises.

My comment on your list:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, i would love this option for my Ipad
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I might use this but not an important feature
3. A strong bot.
Yes Please
4. Options for timed games
No Thanks
5. Options for undo settings
I dont care about this
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I might use this
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I might use this
8. More translations (to what language?)
I might look fun if the cards were in Suomi (Finnish Language) but i would not be able to read them
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
no need
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
It is often annoying to use cards like Island/Prince at the same time as cards the let you put cards back on top of your deck. Making it easier to see witch cards are doing what, or how they connect would be a big thing for me, so yes please :-)
10. Option to hide the log
Dident we jut have a number 10? still i might use this if i stared playing on my phone with an app. (small screen)
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
not currently on an android device
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes Yes Yes
13. Downloadable game logs
Nope, no use for that
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I mainly play against bots so, not a big thing for me
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not needed for me
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
there is a difference ??

Keep up the good work, and i look forward to the App :-)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: sm.sm on 13 January 2018, 10:59:23 AM
sm.sm here

I am keeping only the parts I am interested about.
 3. A strong bot.
That could work wonders if there was a way to analyze and replay existing games against the bot.
Something similar to https://lichess.org/
request computer analysis - great way to learn from mistakes.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I would be even more interested in official tournaments, potentially with prizes, maybe costing some virtual currency for admission.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
yes, that would be very nice to be able to play dominion on a (smart)phone.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
that is less of problem recently, but still would be nice
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: McSquack on 13 January 2018, 11:05:13 AM
Hello, username is McSquack my wife is Bumblebeemama
 
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

This isn't very important to me, I may try it if the games are challenging.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

This could be cool.

3. A strong bot.

Sure, why not, I mostly prefer to play real people, but I'd be willing to try it..

4. Options for timed games
5. Options for undo settings
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.


I like more options, but don't really know if I'd use any of these, maybe I'd try to do a tournament.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes! This would be great, much better than booting players.

8. More translations (to what language?)

Doesn't really affect me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

meh.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

yes. please.

10. Option to hide the log

meh.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Droid user here, and I would LOVE an app for my phone.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

This doesn't really affect me.

One feature I like from the MF version was the ability to build and save different custom decks. I actually thought this was the best feature from the old game and have been very disappointed that it wasn't carried over. I think it could be really cool to use it with the tournaments mentioned in #6.

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Melanie Koester on 13 January 2018, 11:54:01 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This is how I mostly use the game. So defenitly yes.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would be great,  maybe this would stop the bot buying masquerades. 😉

3. A strong bot.
Defenitly yes. It is beaten too easy.

4. Options for timed games
Not necessary.

5. Options for undo Settings
Would be nice. But it is Not really necessary.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I never play online.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This possibilty would make me play online.

8. More translations (to what language?)
English is sufficient

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yes, so the log would be redundant. Which cards were trashed....which cards were dicarded...

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes

10. Option to hide the log
Oh yes, please.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No problems so far.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
No Problems.

13. Downloadable game logs
No.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Doesn't effect me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Maybe for beginners

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Maybe for beginners.


Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Stefan.Hanke on 13 January 2018, 12:16:46 PM
Username: Stefan.Hanke

I am using german card names in quotes because I don't know the exact english translations. (Ingix: Added english names)

 - have default options for e.g. "Turnier" (Tournament) or "Burggraben" (Moat). I don't want to redo this in every play.
 - allow constraints in card setup. E.g. no cards that grant more buys, no cards that grant 2 actions, no attack cards without the possibility of defense, etc.
 - please make the choices that I have to do inside the log explicit. Use the standard buttons in the standard place.
 - I am not sure whether I continue my subscription for another full year. How about a monthly subscription option that could even be a bit more expensive?
 - I am not into AI and all that, but perhaps it is possible to train bots with real plays. Perhaps this can be used to automatically create bots with a specific strength. The AI players inside "Race for the Galaxy" are quite impressive and hard to beat.

As a side note, using a forum post for this kind of thing is somewhat cumbersome. For me, I'd like to browse suggestions of other players and eventually up- or downvote them. It would make evaluating for you easier because you just look at the top 10 items and decide on which one you want to work next. Just my 2c.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: markus on 13 January 2018, 01:12:13 PM
- have default options for e.g. "Turnier" or "Burggraben". I don't want to redo this in every play.
 - I am not sure whether I continue my subscription for another full year. How about a monthly subscription option that could even be a bit more expensive?
You can set your personal default for autoplay for each card in the options menu.

You can subscribe for shorter periods starting from 1 month. It costs the same per day but you have to pay the (small) transaction fee each time.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: djebi57 on 13 January 2018, 01:23:04 PM
That's a nice gesture of you guys. Was quite disappointed when I found out, that I could only play basic anymore.
BTW: For some reasons I played as djebi AND as djebi57. Would be nice to pick the one that I got the extensions a long time ago (I really don't know which one it was for the time being).
So here are my answers:
1.   An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots   
Definitely yes, because there are situations when I’m offline, have time, would like to play – and can’t.
2.   A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, would be nice. I play a lot with bots, because it’s just quicker.
3.   A strong bot.
At least there should be a bot, that does not keep running into some of the well known traps (like buying the last province and losing that way or buying a chapel with 5 coppers in the first draw and so on).
4.   Options for timed games
Might be good with some players…
5.   Options for undo settings
Like what? Don’t quite understand. I keep misclicking sometimes so it would be good to still have some.
6.   Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I’m not into tournaments, so…
7.   Option to invite specific players to your table
That would be a good thing!
8.   More translations (to what language?)
Not important
9.   Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not important
10.   Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Would be nice!
11.   Option to hide the log
Would only be nice on the mobile
12.   Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Improved compatibility would do it for me
13.   iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not relevant
14.   Downloadable game logs
Not relevant
15.   Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Not very important
16.   Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not important
17.   Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not important
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: yellwsub on 13 January 2018, 01:32:28 PM
Hi Stef!  My login is also yellwsub in the game.  Thanks for doing this poll, and good luck implementing these new features!

 
My top priorities are:
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
but mostly only if it is paired with
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Since I play games on my phone on the train, where there's no internet connection.  And in order for it to be really fun, I guess there would need to be either
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
or
 3. A strong bot.
But different difficulty levels would be really helpful since I'm not really THAT good yet :)
 
Relevant to online play, the thing I care the most about by far is
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
since the current setup leaves me having to check the wiki for "what's under Patrician again...?"

I would say many of the rest of your items fall into "sure, that sounds cool" but I wouldn't say I'm clamoring for them.  In priority order:

 5. Options for undo settings
This would be nice, probably I would go for auto-allow undos that don't reveal info, ask for others (which I'll probably still allow because I'm nice)

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I think this would be great!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Eh, I keep meaning to get my IRL friends to play online.  Maybe this would make that more likely?

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
If you're going to have an iPhone app, you probably ought to have an Android one as well

10. Option to hide the log
If it made the game space more legible I would probably do it sometimes.

13. Downloadable game logs
I'd use it occasionally, sure.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Dealing with chat abuse couldn't hurt.  I get accused of slow playing when I'm thinking sometimes, so my main concern is that you have some process of verifying that people are really doing it to be mailicious.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I don't know how often I would use this.

4. Options for timed games
Haven't really thought about this but it sounds stressful.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
How would this be different from the general tutorial?

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I'm probably not the best person to comment on this.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
If this is going to take a ton of your dev time, I really wouldn't worry about it

Looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Biggsies on 13 January 2018, 01:45:40 PM
Hey mate, awesome work on the client thusfar. My in game name is Biggsies. I haven't read any of the previous posts so these opinions are my own.

I've played a lot with the Shuffle iT client but admittedly not much in the last month or so, if anything I mention below has been addressed since then please feel free to ignore it!

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I played so much of the MF campaign that the appeal may have worn off on me a bit, but I would use it and I love the idea in general.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
May use it a little if the AI was significantly improved, wouldn't at all if it's similar to now

3. A strong bot.
Would love this

4. Options for timed games
Not too interested. I find most players play at a reasonable pace, and the ones that don't I have the option to not play with in the future.

5. Options for undo settings
I'm not sure what these would be - like the option to auto-approve certain undos? I would use this.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
When I play with friends it's for a quick couple of games, and I think automated mini tournaments might run a bit long for me. Don't see myself using this one.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
YES! As happy as I am with the client I was very surprised how fiddly it was to set up a table with a friend.

8. More translations (to what language?)
n/a for me

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I miss the animations and sounds of MF, quick unobtrusive animations (ie. a card disappearing off in the direction of the trash/discard/reserve etc.) would add a lot in making plays easier to absorb.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Split piles are the only big one for me from that list, I really really think the bottom card should be readable. I also reeeaaally missed the ability to see all cards with their descriptions at once when I was newer at the game. Even now, I'm more experienced but when I come back after some time away I wish I could see all cards at once.

10. Option to hide the log
Don't think I'd ever do this.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I have an android, but I'm not really interested in playing on my phone.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't have an iPhone.

13. Downloadable game logs
I wouldn't use this, but I was perplexed when the change was made that caused the log to vanish when the game ended.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
With the size of the player base right now I don't think it's important. Almost everyone is really cool and the bad eggs are easily blacklisted :)

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I wouldn't use it (but of course, few replying to this post would). I don't think many are coming in to the client blind and as such most wouldn't need it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Definitely, if only to cover how to use the log.


Love your work!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: bonxie on 13 January 2018, 01:57:03 PM
I would like the online version to mimic the way I play face to face with friends - the gaps are mostly around looking at things like archive, and mates - native village, tavern etc. And maybe a bit more help playing with new cards, my rating is taking a hit while I learn nocturnes. And would it be possible to see the whole leaderboard - maybe it is and I just haven't worked out how! The undo option is a bit generous - shouldn't be available if it's deciding not to do something which isn't a good idea once you've done it - Lookout being a good example. But difficult to programme, so maybe best left to the player to refuse.

But overall I love the online version - and I'm sure any changes will only make it better, or be neutral for me.

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jameson411 on 13 January 2018, 01:58:28 PM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would not use an offline client unless I could use it to play other people.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I prefer playing against people, I don't like to play bots.

 3. A strong bot.
A strong bot is the only kind of bot I would play, even if it always beats me!

 4. Options for timed games
Yes please. Reduce time for move per turn, 5 minutes is tooooo long. Also, a sudden death option would be great where if you time runs out, you lose. 10 minutes per side would be a start.

 5. Options for undo settings
Sometimes I click on the wrong card so an undo setting that doesn't require approval would be nice. Can you do a setting where an undo doesn't require approval as long as it doesn't allow people to cheat like seeing the top card.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be great. We have several family members that play online and I'd love to set up a tournament.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, this would be a great option.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not needed for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I don't care about this, the game play is fine. I enjoy the game and don't need or want flashy graphics.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I would love to be able to "right click" on the buried cards in a split piles as I don't know them all.

10. Option to hide the log
Not needed, I like it the way it is. The trash selection is good too.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
My phone is too small to play. I love that I can play it on my Chromebook!

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
N/A for me.

13. Downloadable game logs
YES. I'd like to be able to review game play sometimes.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Hasn't been an issue for me. The fact that you view game play when I resign and block a player is great. Since that was implemented, I have noticed that very few people play intentionally slow.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I don't need that. The right click to see the card descriptions is enough for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
All set, thanks
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: maos on 13 January 2018, 02:31:36 PM
Hi Stef, maos here.

I'll comment on the items on your list below and try to remember other things I've thought about to add when I get to the end.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, please, very useful. At least the offline client, but to have something to play in it, I guess campaigns are the way to go.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would be great - I mainly play bot games and having different bots to choose from would be most welcome.

 3. A strong bot.
With different bots, I assume some will be stronger than others. Strength is not a preference for me, though.

 4. Options for timed games
Not interesting.

 5. Options for undo settings
Not important, would be very low on my list.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not interesting.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not important.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
No thanks, I prefer English.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yes, please! It's far too easy to miss some things happening and I'd prefer not have to use the log at all.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, please! Ideally everything should be visible, including a way to see all cards in the kingdom at once, with their texts.

10. Option to hide the log
It seems I jumped ahead on this one. Yes, I'd love to, given that I could still see everything that's happening.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not interesting.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Improved compatibility is fine for me.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not interesting.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
As a severely asocial player who mostly meet Lord Rat, I don't have any problems with this. And I think I'd be fine with the options already available even if I did venture out into the social scene.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
If this doesn't refer to Dominion online, I don't see a use for it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Yes, in order to get new players in I think this is necessary. I don't see any way in at all now unless you already know the game quite well. This would of course be helped by having campaigns. For PR and info, the easiest ones should probably be for free for at least a while per user so people can get a feel for what it is they're buying.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jaxtwitch on 13 January 2018, 02:45:53 PM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Offline play is the no1 priority for me, as this is how I almost exclusively play

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would definitely be something I would use as this would definitely help bot playability (currently certain cards come out, and you know how each of the bots will respond, so you play to design instead)

3. A strong bot.
As above this is definitely something I would use. I expect i would always use this if this was available

4. Options for timed games
This is an interesting idea, I am sure this would be something I would use occasionally if it was there

5. Options for undo settings
This would be useful, as occasionally I click something by mistake, however depending on the card played wouldn't be appropriate. This isn't a high priority for me though... mistakes happen

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This isn't something I would likely use

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This would be good.

8. More translations (to what language?)
n/a

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Don't think this is needed; works fine for me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Visualisation for seaside cards, so you can see what you have set aside for your next turn would be very useful, and would be a massive help. Put this as one of the highest priorities related to non-offline/bot playing

10. Option to hide the log
This would be good, but not a high priority for me

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
not sure if i would use this or not. Maybe....

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
n/a

13. Downloadable game logs
would not use

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I haven't had any issues with this when playing online. Also as I mainly play bots, not a priority for me

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
not needed for me

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
might be useful, but very low priority

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Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: SonTaughtMeDominion on 13 January 2018, 03:37:47 PM
My username is ElizabethRuth, and I appreciate this opportunity to offer feedback for a chance to use my expansions for a longer period of time. Thank you! So here is the feedback:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would appreciate this, because I almost exclusively play with bots, but I don’t mind playing online.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, please! All the bots in the current Dominion play in basically the same style.

3. A strong bot
I’m not exactly sure what this means. If it means a bot that you have to play well to be able to beat, yes, that’s a great idea.

4. Options for timed games
Since I mainly play against bots, I don’t know that I’d use a timed game.

5. Options for undo settings
I really appreciate the Undo! I use it mainly when I click on the wrong thing by accident because the cards are close together – a mistake that only happens on a computer, not in a table game.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I personally would not use it, but I still think it’s a great idea.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
A great idea! (I don’t know for sure that I’d use it, but if it was available, I just might.)

8. More translations (to what language?)
I personally would not use this, but I’m sure there are those who would.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I would like to actually see (clearly) what other players (including bots) purchase or gain, not just learn from reading the log. As far as cards that are played, it would be nice if treasures that are auto-played (which bots should do – not sure if they do) would all play right away rather than individually.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, please! Sometimes, because of space, you will have to click or right click to be able to see piles, but it would be great to have at least a tiny version showing of certain things (Prince cards, for example) which you can click to enlarge when you need to see it better.

10. [Second #10] Option to hide the log
I think this is a great idea. I would use it.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would personally not use this, as I don’t have an Android phone or device.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I do have an iPhone, but I wouldn’t play Dominion on my phone due to the size. I do play it on my iPad Mini, though, and the size is just fine. I guess it’s not an app, though; I just play it in the Safari browser. (I did have the MF app.)

13. Downloadable game logs
Personally, I would not download game logs.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Since I mainly play with bots, I have never needed moderation. (The one time I experienced chat abuse, I answered abuse with kindness, and the other person apologized immediately.)

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
This may not be needed if tutorials are available other places online. I learned to play Dominion as a table game first, but there have been times when I did an online search for how to use a particular card I was unfamiliar with. That was back in MF days, but I don’t think it was an MF website that had the information.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online
Yes, I think this would be helpful – possibly just some basics of how things play differently online.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: srp0010@gmail.com on 13 January 2018, 03:54:30 PM
 My username is srp0010, and I appreciate this opportunity to offer feedback for a chance to use my expansions for a longer period of time. Thank you! So here is the feedback:


1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This is the thing I would most enjoy.   Live players are too often slow and too concerned about rating.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Also useful.    Quick fun games, learn new cards vs deep hard games.

 3. A strong bot.
Yes, see above.

 4. Options for timed games
When playing live this would be nice but I think people would still disconect.

 5. Options for undo settings
Good idea.  Not required.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes!    Great idea.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Meh

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not for me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not for me.  The game is the thing I come for.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Only where it improves game play.

10. Option to hide the log
Sure

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Compatibility

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Compatibility

13. Downloadable game logs
Maybe

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not for me

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not for me
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: guynexdoor on 13 January 2018, 04:25:47 PM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would like to see an OFFLINE client to for phones/tablets.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Not really familiar with play styles, so don't care much for this one.
 3. A strong bot.
Def. a strong bot would be great.
 4. Options for timed games
Not sure if timed games are part of Dominion gameplay...
 5. Options for undo settings
Nah
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes. Yes. Yes. I would definitely like to see this.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Hmm..
 8. More translations (to what language?)
Spanish
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Perhaps this will improve an aspect of online play that I never liked...which is that when I pay in real life, I tend to pay attention to what my opponent is buying/doing. when I play online, I end up just up focusing on what I'm doing. How can we change the online experience interface so that I'm more inclined to observe my opponent?
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Split piles should look like a split pile. Like one pile on top is vertical and the other is horizontal...
10. Option to hide the log
Nah.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
App.
13. Downloadable game logs
Nah.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes. Please improve.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: carolyn0717 on 13 January 2018, 04:33:33 PM
Hi Stef,

Appreciate the effort with this!  As an old MF user who had all the expansions, I am disappointed that my only options right now are to pay for the expansions on a yearly basis or only play the base set.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This would be useful if it worked on mobile

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, it'd be great to customize the type of bot to play against

 3. A strong bot.
Yes, but less of a priority than play styles

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes - when I play with people, it's always specific players

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
It would be nice, especially for when one is learning the cards

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
At minimum, improved compatibility, but an app would be high priority for me - I'd like to be able to play on my phone while on the go.  Capability for an offline mode would be ideal (to play while traveling - too many games require a connection nowadays)

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
While I wouldn't use these myself, it would be great for new players, as it would help them learn the game and continue to use it.

Thanks again!

carolyn0717
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: drellus on 13 January 2018, 04:37:34 PM
I think my biggest wish is to see a Season system. I would like to see a numerical ranking of people participating in a seasonal tournament. That'd be cool!

My username is drellus
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: deckme on 13 January 2018, 04:43:45 PM
1. Yes. Campaign was one of my favorite features on the old client. Offline would be excellent too.

2. Yes. Practicing against Big Money/Slog/Engine/etc. at will is a big boost to my learning curve.

3. Yes. I like a suggestion I read in another response, wherein users have access to the API so we can write our own bots. Having a handful of community-created bots (refined with feedback of their own) would give me another reason to pay attention to the forums. It may also solve problem 2, since some bot writers may be better at coding one play style over another.

4. Yes. This is huge for online play with real players, and would bring me there more often.

5. Yes.

6. Yes. Wonderful idea. I could get a handful of people online with me with this feature. But I'd only be able to bring them back for more if, as host, my entire subscription set of cards were available to all the players I hosted.

7. Yes, but as others suggested, only if the pop-up invite appeared in an unobtrusive corner of the screen and didn't cover up any other active buttons or info.

8. I don't need this. But if you really want, I'd use Latin and Arabic translations to continue studying those languages. The 8 or 9 folks I regularly play with would be interested in a Latin translation too.

9. I don't care. I use the game log to review what happened. I'm annoyed by long, sparkly animations that make me wait. Like when the bot plays each treasure individually, instead of all at once. I learn things in the way a bot sequences actions, but not in the way it sequences coins.

10. Yes. Being able to see the second half of a split pile at all would be an improvement.

10. Yes. As long as the Hide/Unhide button never moves from its original spot. If I suddenly experience lag, I don't want my mouse to register mystery actions because I clicked a button that changes its location when something else is toggled.

11. YES! A Dominion App on Android would immediately replace Hearthstone for me. As it is, Dominion is unplayable on my Nexus 6, which has a pretty big screen. The current layout doesn't allow me to scroll around the interface, which means some buttons are always hidden and inaccessible.

12. I don't use iPhones.

13. Cool. This would let me save those extra-special combos and situations.

14. Yes. Timed games would solve my problem with slow players, and being able to turn off chat would solve chat abuse for me.

15. I don't need it, even just for introducing new players. This is an easy game to pick up. However, it's a natural fit in the campaign format. If you make it part of the campaign, please make it optional.

16. I don't need it. Online resources seem adequate to me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: princess0992 on 13 January 2018, 04:49:02 PM
Hello and Thank you for this opportunity.  While I understood the 1 year free I was sad when that year ended.  I live in Rural Canada with probably the slowest and most temperamental internet of many users.  My responses are almost only due to this fact.  My user name is princess0992

1. I would love more options for campaigns against bots as I have stopped playing against real people because of the frustration my slow internet was causing them.  I play quickly but my internet doesn't and so many were resigning so I felt that wasn't fair to them.  I only played bots in 2017.

2. Yes - Bots that have a variety.  It has been frustrating that they do not purchase or play attack cards.  If the bot has an estate when I play a tournament it is not played.  Black Market is never purchased by a bot.  I believe there were other cards also.

3.  Yes - Bot options!  All the bot options!

4. I do not like the idea of timed games although I may not understand the usefulness as I don't play people.  Timed turns?  That could make sense.

5. I would like the option of undoing the card played not each individual step of the card played.

6. Mini tournaments - not for me.

7. Yes - Invite specific players would be nice.

8. English works for me.

9.  I do not have an issue with the animations.

10. It would be nice to see Island cards, prince, etc.  I feel like I like have it was in 2016 but I can't remember how that was!

10 (2) I seldom use the log and think the screen space could be put to better use.  I do like the option of bringing it up.

11.  I could take or leave an android app.  Tried it once a while ago and gave up.  Have not tried again.

12.  Not an apple family.

13.  No 

14.  I honestly only had an issue once with a player using foul language and simply never played them again.  They were swearing at me due to my slow game play (Rural Canadian Internet!)

15. I would not use a tutorial.

16.  I would not use a tutoral.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Slyfox on 13 January 2018, 05:11:33 PM
Context: I'm a top-200 ranked player, and enjoy playing against other players. I may or may not be your target mass audience.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

No intereest.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

No interest.

3. A strong bot.

Unless it can be AlphaGo like smart, not really interested.

However, it might be interesting to provide a Bot API (allow others to create bots), that would be another form of engagement, but I can't really see it as high priority.

4. Options for timed games

Nope.

5. Options for undo settings

This works pretty well.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Yes, this would be great.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Naw.

8. More translations (to what language?)

N/A for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Not important for me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes, this is my #1 ask. Split piles, especially. And, a user should never need to click on the log. Everything should be possible with a button or pop-up on the main game screen.

10. Option to hide the log

Naw.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

N/A.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I've never tried mobile, but if there was an app I would check it out on my iPad.

13. Downloadable game logs

Having a repository of logs would be really interesting. Even better if it was hosted on a web service that made it really easy to query over the game logs easily to collect stats, etc. If this is something you're interested in, please reach out to me as I have specific ideas about this. There are also privacy and other issues to consider, too.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slow players, ...)

This is my second-highest priority request. I can ban someone, but it isn't clear if that ever catches up to the user or how this is reviewed, etc.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

N/A

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

N/A.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Johoen on 13 January 2018, 06:26:08 PM
Hi Stef,

I like the improvements from last year!
I am happy with your longer free description for old MF users. My Username is Johoen .

Excuse me if my English is not that good, I'm not a native speaker.

To improve Dominion-online  even more I have the following suggestions:

- The possibility to make, save and replay your self choosed set of 10 cards.
- Suggested combinations of 10 cards (same as when you buy an expansion in the store).
- Translation in Dutch
- The end of each game goes too fast. You can’t see the move from the last player anymore. The end of a game would feel better if you could see what happened the last move, before you go to the points.
- iT would be Nice if a game (only against bots) can be paused and saved.

On your wishlist, I have the following commands:

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Great, I really miss that!

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Nice!

 3. A strong bot.
Also Nice

 4. Options for timed games
not interested

 5. Options for undo settings
good idea

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes!!!! I would like that

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
For friends yes!

8. More translations (to what language?)
I would like a Dutch translation. Also in the name of the cards. When I play from the box, I only have Dutch cards, It would be nice if the cards have the same name!

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Nice, but no hurry


10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
nice

10. Option to hide the log
For me the most important part of the log is to see what card(s) my opponent bought. Maybe it's possible to show the last bought card(s) until you make a click with your mouse? You can hide the log if every card and the options can be chosen aren't in the log anymore

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
no hurry fo me

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would like that! Especially an off- and online version for the I-pad

13. Downloadable game logs
good idea but no hurry fo me

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
good idea but no hurry fo me

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not interesting for me. What would be interesting is that you can read the tutorial of a card in the deck. (I only use that when new cards give questions about how you  could play them.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Nice!

Good luck with your good work!

Johoen

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: MadMezza on 13 January 2018, 07:36:14 PM
Hi Stef,

I am an 'old MF user' and really enjoy playing Dominion.  I am happy to offer an hour of my time to give you feedback for Dominion online.  I wish for the following for dominion:-

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
 9. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)Definitely....
11. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
12. Tutorial on how to play dominion online and each expansion.

I hope this feedback is helpful Stef.

cheers,
MadMezza.

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: scottyr26 on 13 January 2018, 07:42:11 PM
Stef

Thanks for the offer, from a old MF player, it's really appreciated.

I'm not sure that a comment on all of the ideas from me is all that valuable, but I can tell you which would be most valuable to me.

1)  Number one for me is option to invite specific guests to your table.

2)  I also like the idea of offline capability.  I travel often, and being able to play on a plane without paying for wifi would be ideal.

3)  Options for more challenging bots/flexible playstyles

Those are the top 3.  Thanks again, Stef.

scottyr26



Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: yed on 13 January 2018, 07:43:34 PM
- 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Only on Android and with better bot.
- 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Big money X, where you can choose the X and how many of X bot should buy.
- 3. A strong bot.
Yes please.
- 4. Options for timed games
Not interested.
- 5. Options for undo settings
Better information about what will be undone (For example highlight that part of the log).
No new info undos atomatically accepted in ranked games.
- 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes please, including the format for mini-tourmaments which we had after League final match.
- 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes please.
- 8. More translations (to what language?)
English is fine for me. I would use English even if Czech (my native language) would be avaliable.
- 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No need.
-10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes please, I stil don't remember bottom split piles cards.
-10. Option to hide the log
Yes + chat on Android app (for phones with small screen). No need in Web wersion.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would like the app when there is the offline mode.
I am fine with improved compatibility until then (fullscreen using CSS: same as https://home-assistant.io/demo/ when you click to Add to Home screen in Android Chrome)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
No need for me.
13. Downloadable game logs
Yes please.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Mute chat button.
Blacklist during the game.
Report to moderator inside the game with your comment (maybe question after blacklisting)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
No need for me.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominine.online.
No need for me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Red_Dawn on 13 January 2018, 07:49:09 PM
Here are my answers, although I don’t play that much.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Absolutely, that’s really what I’ve been waiting for! I’d like a “normal” app, with the same interface than the web based app which is very well done. The app should be playable offline, against bots.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Yes,

 3. A strong bot.

Maybe, why not, although I’m not a very good player,

 4. Options for timed games

Yes

 5. Options for undo settings

Yes, because several times, I’ve misunderstood the instructions!

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Yes, although none of my friends will play until the game is translated in French.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes

 8. More translations (to what language?)

French please!!!! Spanish also.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Not important for me.

10. Option to hide the log

Yes, I never read the log!

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Yes, of course, though at first, I’d like a real iPad app.

13. Downloadable game logs

I don’t think I’ll use it.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers,...)

Yes, very good.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Yes, very good idea, I could use it with new players.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Yes, for the same reasons.

As I’ve said before, my dream would be a real app. I like the web-based software but I’d like a real app, findable on the AppStore, with the same play interface, excellent, fast and readable, and translated into French. For all these reasons, I must admit that I don’t play that much anymore at the moment.

If I dream a little further, the game could be adapted on Nintendo Switch.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: 2041278 on 13 January 2018, 07:52:16 PM
Username: 2041278

Thanks for the option of extra play time. I am part of the original group and appreciate the offer. I am very pleased with the improvements you've made over the past year.

1. Yes please!! I would use an offline client if it was available and the bots were stronger
2. It would be very useful for me to learn with a bot with settings for different styles of play
3. Please make the bots stronger!!
4. I would not use the timed games as my internet is not fast enough to keep up with faster play. Bummer
5. Options for undo settings would be great
6. Mini tournaments sounds fun
7. Definitely!! I would like to invite specific players to games
8. Not needed for me.
9. I don't care about this. Sometimes the server is slow or my internet is slow and this would slow it even more.
10. Yes please!!! Better visualization of split piles is a must!!
10. I would never hide the log
11. Yes please!!
12. Yes please...an online and offline app for ipad
13. I wouldn't use this
14. I don't care about this at all
15. I would use a tutorial on specific cards that are new to me and would really like a highlight on which card combos go well with that card. Like...pairs well with...and why
16. I probably would look at this just make sure I'm not missing something but I would have really liked to have had this when I started playing!! Figuring it out as I went along was sometimes very frustrating
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: vansadil@gmail.com on 13 January 2018, 08:16:48 PM

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes I would really enjoy an offline client with bots. Similar to the one Settlers of Catan uses. Campaigns and individual matches against bots would be awesome. Please make it chromebook/android friendly!
 
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I am not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean aggressive/attack versus money versus draw mechanic? It would be nice to have bots lean different ways so you can try out strategies against different styles. You could give several bots different profiles and name and describe them.
 
3. A strong bot.
This is very much needed. When I was learning I thought I was awesome because it was so easy to beat bots. Then started playing online against real people and realized the bots were weak. I sometimes really want the convenience of playing against a bot for speed or ability to walk away and come back when I can. It would be nice if there was a very competitive bot.

 4. Options for timed games
This would be awesome. Working similar to a chess timer where each person gets x amount of time for their moves so the other person can’t slow you down. Then the winner when one persons timer goes out is the one with the most points.

 5. Options for undo settings
I would like to see more control here. Misclicks happen all the time not just in rushing. A reasonable misclick should be auto allowed where anything that allowed the person to “peek” at cards or would change strategy should require the opponent to approve.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be a great option. I would also like to figure out how I can create tables and invite friends to play. Playing my created decks is boring against bots. But perhaps enhanced bots would help.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes please.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
This is not as important to me. But to be fair that is because my first language is English

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/…
This is not important to me as I try to turn them off to as fast play as possible

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes it is frustrating to not be able to see the under piles is split and it affects game strategy if someone is unfamiliar with the cards.

10. Option to hide the log
I like the log and think it keeps everything transparent but an option might not be a bad idea for people who would like an even more competitive game.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I am an android user both on my phone and my laptop is a chromebook. I would like to see an android app that can be used on phones/tablets. The game play seems to work fairly well online now in the chrome browser. Please let the offline version work as well or create a native android app.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
NA

13. Downloadable game logs
Interesting concept. It would not be an important feature to me but I can see the advantage and it might really help people learning the game.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Absolutely. I have wanted to change my username (another option I wish was available because I have had people talk to me in a way I did not like once they figured I was a woman, deep sigh) I have learned to just quit the games over language, suggestive commentary but I should not be penalized in my rankings because of other peoples actions. And the slow play drives me crazy. Maybe something else that could help with the slow play is a game option for different paces. For example the person who wants to play while they do other things on the internet can choose a more casual pace and then the person who gets impatient when I take more than 3 seconds to think about my moves can pick a lightning fast game style. Either way there is always abuse and people trying to use slow play to increase their rankings.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion 16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think one tutorial is a good idea. But you don’t need two seperate ones. I also think tutorials or FAQs on new sets and or new cards might be helpful. I have helped several people learn nocturne and while I am happy to help I think people would take advantage of it. So beyond the basic here is how to use new sets and new features and even a how to improve your dominion strategy tutorial. The better everyone gets the better the games overall are.

Other Thoughts
I have been a member for a long time. I miss campaigns. I even liked the zaps :) I was sad to see the permanent game go away and the campaigns. However, I know you have added a lot and it was in many ways out of your hands. Thanks for giving us this opportunity to provide feedback and for offering additional compensation for those who have been part of the game for a long time and ridden the waves. Thank you for the hard work and for constantly updating as the new games come out.  Remember for every complaint you receive you have many other happy people enjoying this and never commenting. Keep up the good work. My  game username is KellieA
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: glups on 13 January 2018, 08:36:30 PM
My dominion username is also glups.

I've prioritized the proposed features in high/medium/low groups for my own personal preferences:

High priority
 3. A strong bot.
 - Not sure how difficult this would be, but it would definitely be a great feature. For higher ranked players, it can be hard to always match someone around our level quickly. The waiting can be painful and sometimes leads to forfeited games when I forget to check the Dominion tab.
 4. Options for timed games.
 - I would definitely use this feature. Sometimes I only have 15-20 minutes to play a game and I don't because I might not be able to finish a regular game.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 - Seems like a pretty fundamental feature and low hanging fruit.
 12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
 - If it existed and worked reasonably well, I would definitely use it a lot.
 14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
 - It doesn't happen so often, but when it does it really sucks and can be frustrating.
 
Medium priority
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 - I will probably always be primarily an online player, but I think this would be nice for flights and other times when I may not have internet access.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 - A feature that would be nice in the long-term, but I think there are others that are more important in the near future.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 - Another feature that would be great in the long-term, but I'm okay with not having it in the immediate future
 10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
 - I think it would really helpful to have some way of seeing which split is underneath the lower-cost half.

Low priority
 5. Options for undo settings
 - The current button seems adequate for 95% of undo cases (single-time misclicks)
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 - Not relevant to me as an English player
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
 - The animations are more than adequate for me, it's not what keeps me around as a Dominion player.
 10. Option to hide the log
 - It doesn't bother me at all, and is often useful
 11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
 - Not relevant to me as an iPhone user
 13. Downloadable game logs
 - I wouldn't use this feature
 15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
 - Not relevant to me
 16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
 - Not relevant to me
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: lily_maeblelle on 13 January 2018, 08:44:20 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Yes, I'd like to be able to play offline, although I probably wouldn't do it super frequently.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Interesting idea. I would like to see it, but I'm not sure how much use I'd get out of it.

 3. A strong bot.

Little to no interest.

 4. Options for timed games

Not important to me.

 5. Options for undo settings

This is a nice feature to have but I'm happy with the way it is now.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

A cool idea, but I probably wouldn't use this a lot, if at all.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

This is probably my #1 wish.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Not important to me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Not important to me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Could be nice, but doesn't affect my enjoyment of the game overall.

10. Option to hide the log

This would be a nice feature.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I really miss playing Dominion on my tablet! I have a Kindle Fire.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Nope.

13. Downloadable game logs

No interest whatsoever.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

This wouldn't affect me personally.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I know how to play Dominion, so no.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I can never keep track of whether I'm the "L" in the red or in "L" in the blue, so sometimes I end up executing an action on myself that I meant to play on my opponent. It would be nice to have more robust instructions I could reference.


I'm not thrilled about having to pay for a subscription -- I'd be perfectly happy to play Dominion offline with the expansions I originally purchased. That being said, I'm very satisfied with the other aspects of the user experience and I like being able to play Dominion on the computer. I appreciate the offer of the extended subscription and I appreciate Shuffle's respect for the players.

My username is lily_maeblelle.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: smittyshmee on 13 January 2018, 08:48:14 PM
I bought dominion online as part of a humble bundle before this new site took over. I was also under the assumption it was mine forever... ESPECIALLY given that I've also purchased physical product. Why the **** would I need to pay a subscription for a game I already own? If I'm going to be forced to pay for online, I'm not going to play anymore. Not even giant companies like Blizzard charge for their online services. I'd pay a one-time fee to continue my online services, but certainly not a subscription.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
no

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
no

3. A strong bot.
no

4. Options for timed games
no

5. Options for undo settings
no

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
doubtful

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
maybe

8. More translations (to what language?)
English

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
the current animations are fine.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
the current animations are fine.

11. Option to hide the log
I glance at it occasionally, I dont thin it needs to be hidden.

12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I probably wouldn't use it if one existed.

13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
no

14. Downloadable game logs
no

15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I've never had an issue using the service or with any users

16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
no

17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
no

username: smittyshmee
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: secant on 13 January 2018, 08:49:31 PM
Hello, my username is secant. Thanks for giving us the opportunity to provide feedback and offering to extend subscriptions. I think this has garnered tremendous data so far and would be happy to add to it. 

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots.
Definitely, this was something I played a lot before. While I do play regularly online as well, when there was option for offline play my overall playtime went up significantly.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This’ll be cool, to play against different strategies.

 3. A strong bot.
Yes, stronger AIs would make for a better experience offline.

 4. Options for timed games
I wouldn’t use this often, but could be useful to prevent slow-playing.

 5. Options for undo settings
Not high on my list. Having undo is always good.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Awesome! I think this’ll get my playgroup to consistently join and reach the next level.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I’d use this a lot since my friend and I regularly play weekly.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not sure. I would not use in another language.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Yes, this would make other players turns more intuitive and rely less on the text log. This would be high for me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Similar to 9, this would be extremely useful in-game and is high on my list.

10. Option to hide the log
As of now, I use the log a lot since the animations/visualizations are sometimes clunky. But with the previous two (animation/visualization) implemented, it would be cleaner to not show the log always.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Would not personally use

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I played a lot on iPad before so iOS compatibility would be nice.
 
13. Downloadable game logs
Not high on my list, it’s not really a chess annotation where you can easily review it. Seems could be long.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Haven’t see this too often, so would be lower on my tier of priorities. But, if others have had this problem, then definitely should be on the list.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not needed personally. Could be good in getting more players on.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not needed personally

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: tashley2 on 13 January 2018, 08:55:26 PM
A stronger bot(s) would be great,  I prefer playing bots due to their fast play & because they never ask for undo's,  but the current bots aren't very good & have known specific weakness.  The best chess & backgammon bots are at world championship level,  this  should be possible with Dominion.
Ideally there's no undo feature.  I really resent being presented with an undo request that reveals future information (honest mistake or not) & having to decide whether to allow my opponent to 'cheat' (because they looked ahead),  or deny & face verbal abuse (my blacklist is full of such players).  It should be automated where some requests are automatically allowed,  & not being allowed to even ask if future info is revealed (including asking when it's not your turn).  Going back multiple  steps seems ridiculous,  why not go all the way back to the beginning of the game if it's not going your way?  That stuff should be banned,  at least in rated games.
Even undo requests that don't reveal future info can be problematic:  victory cards with multipliers (Feodum, Silk Road, Gardens) can cause the victory pt total to drastically change when certain cards are obtained,  also some of the Landmarks (Keep,  Orchard, Palace) can have this effect,  these could prompt an undo request if the victory pt total doesn't change  as hoped.  Should this be allowed,  esp if it's maybe the last turn of the game & may make the difference between winning & losing?  If an undo request is denied in such a critical situation,  fair chance both players end up on each other's blacklists.  If there's no undo feature,  these  events that cause strife & bad feelings don't happen.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Fractured Nash on 13 January 2018, 09:13:54 PM
1) I recommend that play be timed. Some players, for whatever reason, take too long to play their hands. Because of this, I have left many games.

2) Some players are really very nasty people. While I have chosen to block them, I wonder if they have paid for the expansions or if they are just taking advantage of me having had access to all the expansions. This is not a problem for me right now. I have not renewed my membership and it makes me think twice about doing so.

3) I really like it that if I have to log out for a while that I when I come back that I can pick up on the game that I was playing before.

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Fascist Octopus on 13 January 2018, 09:21:46 PM
Hi,

My login name is "Fascist Octopus", and the sets I'd bought were Seaside and Prosperity.

The thing I want most is more variety in the play styles of the AI. There are lots of cards that the bots tend not to use. There are several cards which the bots don't use at all, and I know that if they appear I'll completely clobber them (a couple of examples are goons and tactician, but there are also some combinations like workshop/gardens). It's a problem because it makes it hard to learn how to defend against particular cards and strategies. So for me: the most important thing is a greater range of bot playing styles.

To your particular examples:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Would be good; I really enjoyed the old campaigns, and offline access is a high priority for me.
 
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Yes, as I've described above.
 
 3. A strong bot.

Obviously we want the strongest bots possible. Having said that, if it were a choice between weaker bots with different playing styles and stronger bots with a narrower range of styles, I'd go for the former.
 
 4. Options for timed games

Not a priority for me.
 
 5. Options for undo settings

Maybe... it can be useful in case of a misclick, but it's not a must-have.
 
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Really important for me: a premium feature I'd pay more for.
 
 8. More translations (to what language?)

 Not an issue FOR ME, but if it would improve accessiblity, then you should prioritise it.
 
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Really not a priority.
 
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Not a priority in general, but a MAJOR problem at the moment is how duration cards are hidden. I shouldn't have to remember how many eg. fishing villages I played last time, when I'm working out what to respond to a Militia/Ghost Ship attacks, and I should be able to see who has lighthouses showing.

10. Option to hide the log

Not a priority.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Nice to have, but not critical.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Don't have an iPhone.

13. Downloadable game logs

Not a priority.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Not an issue FOR ME, but if it's an issue, then you should prioritise it.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not an issue for me because I'd played the physical version extensively beforehand, but tutorials are really useful in general.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Shouldn't be needed if you've got the UI right, but may be useful for issues like how rankings are calculated, ethics of play etc.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Formosare on 13 January 2018, 09:26:38 PM
Hi
1) offline client is a must have.   
2) bot setting okay but need an advanced AI,    I find other games evetually become boring even on expert settings
3) same as 2
4) timed games would be interesting
5) i think undo should not be allowed when a player sees new cards ,   this option would be good
6) yes for mini tourneys
7) invites not that important
8) translations not important to me
9) I think it is fine the way it is
10) ok not that important
11) yes, yes
12) yes
13) not important to me to have logs downloaded
14) yes this is needed
15) WHo does not know how to play?
16) same as above

I think that a 3 card for first player should be examined as many times first player just has a huge advantage
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: unger4163 on 13 January 2018, 09:30:18 PM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This was one of the main reasons I bought the game and the expansion packs, to begin with, now that I do not have access to that it is hard for me to play.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
I do think that having a bot that you can set the parameters on would be helpful.  That way it is not always set on an easy level it could get more challenging the more you play. Maybe even one that would match your current abilities.

 3. A strong bot.
Having a Bot with varied abilities would be good.  If it was just strong and always beat me then I would lose interest and not want to play anymore

 4. Options for timed games
I do not like the option for a timed game. I like to be able to think through each play and try to foresee how to play future cards.


 5. Options for undo settings
I could give or take on the undo feature.  Most card games once you play it that is the done deal, so either way, it doesn't matter.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be cool to have so that we could keep track of all of our games or have it best of three.  something along those lines.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I only play with people I know or the bot so this feature wouldn't be high on my list

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I only use it in English and that would be all I would use it for in the future.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I do like the animations and features on the cards it makes it interesting and more story like.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I think it is needed, but as far as visualization, they need to be to the same level of the other cards

10. Option to hide the log
I think the log is a very valuable piece of the game and should be there always.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I have an iPhone so Android app would interest me.... but if you have the app for one you should definitely have it for both

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Definitely should have an app for both platforms.

13. Downloadable game logs
I think this could be a valuable piece that added to the game would allow for better strategy

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slow players, ...)
Since I only play with Bot or people I know, moderation isn't as important to me.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I think having it available would be good and could bring in new players, But since I have been playing for a while I do not see where I would need a tutorial.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Same thing as the above tutorial.  I do not see it helpful for me but for new players it could be.

User Name unger4163
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: RasMiCall on 13 January 2018, 11:18:51 PM
(Translation (in quotes) by Ingix)

Hi Stef!
Ich bin mit der Situation total unzufrieden, was denke ich nachvollziehbar ist. Von MF wurde kommuniziert, dass alle Erweiterungen bestehen bleiben. Ich überlege tatsächlich, gerichtlich dagegen vorzugehen.
Dennoch möchte ich dein Angebot annehmen und feedback geben. Ich hoffe, dass es bald eine Offlineversion, noch besser natürlich, eine Übertragung der bereits bezahlten Erweiterungen geben wird.

Grundsätzlich finde ich die "neue" Umsetzung als gelungen. Definitiv besser als die von MF.

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Hi Stef!
I'm very dissatisfied with the current situation, which I think is understandable. MF said that all expansions would remain. I'm actually thinking of going to court with this.
Nevertheless, I'll accept your offer and give feedback. I hope an offline version will soon exist, and even better a transfer of the already paid for expansions.
Generally I find the "new" implementation well done. Definitely better than MF's.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Wäre Klasse, weil ich öfters auf arbeit spiele und dann spontan etwas anderes machen muss.....
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Would be great, as I play at work somtimes and then have to do something else at short notice...


2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Finde ich gut, würde es Abwechslungsreicher machen.
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I like that, would make it more diverse.

3. A strong bot.B
Ja. Verschiedene Schwierigkeitsstufen wären klasse.
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Yes. Different difficulty levels would be great.

 4. Options for timed games
Find ich sehr gut, bin ein schneller Spieler
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I really like that, I'm a fast player.

 5. Options for undo settings
Bin ich kein großer Fan.
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I'm not a big fan of this.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Jaaaa!
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Yeeessssss!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Finde ich gut.
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I like that.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Deutsch bitte. Muss aber auch nicht unbedingt sein.
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German, please. But doesn't have to be.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Brauche ich nicht. Passt schon gut.
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I don't need that. Good as is.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Brauche ich nicht. Passt schon gut.
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I don't need that. Good as is.

10. Option to hide the log
Fände ich gut.
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Would like that.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Ja bitte!
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Yes, please!

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Nutze ich nicht.
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Don't use that.

13. Downloadable game logs
Brauche ich nicht.
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Don't need that.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Brauche ich nicht.
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Don't need that.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Brauche ich nicht.
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Don't need that.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Bruache ich nicht.
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Don't need that.

Mein Username ist ebenfalls "RasMiCall"

Greetings
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: lehrfje on 13 January 2018, 11:22:11 PM
Please see below for my responses.
Username: lehrfje

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, this would be one of the most important things for me

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Nice to have

 3. A strong bot.
Yes.  in particular some of the current bots make plays that make sense.  Example 1, they might play a chapel to trash all their coppers, leaving them with not enough $$ to buy a silver or anything greater than another chapel.  Example 2, they don't pay the prizes correctly.

 4. Options for timed games
Nice to have.  could be fun.

 5. Options for undo settings
OK.  currently, it is slow and sometimes unresponsive.  in particular if the undo was requested after the cleanup, it likely won't work.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Nice to have.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
not big for me.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
nope

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
maybe.  probably not that improtant.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
could be good.

10. Option to hide the log
nice to have.  not that important.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
YES, definitely

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
not for me.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not needed for me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
slow players can be a problem but i can never be sure if it is a connection issue.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
makes sense for new players

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
makes sense for new players. an optional tutorial for newly released/purchased cards might be good.

Thanks for taking the time to consider our feedback!
Cheers.

Username: lehrfje
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Justme on 14 January 2018, 12:06:43 AM
Hello

I am an old MF user and would very much appreciate an offline version (I seldom play against people because I can only play for short periods of time, sometimes not enough to finish a game).
Somethings improved after the migration from MF (like game and network stability and the possibility to leave a game unfinished for several hours and then came back to it) but other things got worse (mainly the AI).

What I would like:
- offline version;
- much better AI (at present some basic mistakes are being made, like: buying the same action card again and again when one or two are enough, use the action to trash cards even when it shouldn't be used and thrashing valuable cards, etc.);
- bots with different degrees of AI (or something like playing against a basic, intermediate or expert bot);
- challenges and trophies (like: winning without buying silvers, or golds or no money at all, winning without buying action cards over a certain price, or winning with no more than a certain number of cards on the deck, or at least a certain number of cards on the deck, and many other possibilities).



Here are my opinions on the features on your wishlist:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
A major like (also trophies as I already mentioned).
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes
 3. A strong bot.
Yes. I would like levels of difficulty (3, maybe).
 4. Options for timed games
I don't feel the need.
 5. Options for undo settings
I might like but it feels like cheating.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I like (although it’s not much important for me).
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
I like (although it’s not much important for me).
 8. More translations (to what language?)
I don't need.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Might be nice but I think it's far from essential.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
All improvements are welcome but this one doesn't seem much important to me.
10. Option to hide the log
I don't feel the need (but don't say no).
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't need.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Mostly I play on the Mac but an iPhone/iPad app would be welcome (with offline capability) and preferable to just improved compatibility.
13. Downloadable game logs
I don't feel the need.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I don't feel the need.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I don't feel the need.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I don't feel the need.

Whishing you good (and fast) work on the improvements!
I'll be looking forward to the offline version.
All the best!!!

My username: Justme
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Ninth Elegy on 14 January 2018, 12:42:20 AM
My primary wish is for stronger bots or bots with settings for different levels of difficulty. Lord Rattington should respond to the Torturer by discarding every time - especially when the curses are gone.

The annual subscription rate seems a little steep. The previous platform was more expensive upfront for all expansions; however, we never had to re-purchase the expansion or renew a subscription. We purchased each expansion for 30-40% the value of the physical game. I would have renewed my subscription immediately if the options were less expensive, if I had the ability to customize which expansions were included in the package, or if I was able to subscribe to a single expansions at a lower, immediate expense. 



Wishlist features:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
            This option would be great if the bots are improved

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
            Improving bot performance is necessary first; however, I like the idea of being able to improve my own strategies based on a variety of bot options.

3. A strong bot.
            Yes, please.

4. Options for timed games
            This option is less important for me.

5. Options for undo settings
            Perhaps a setting that allows a maximum number of "undo" request would be helpful.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
            Interesting

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
            Yes. I would definitely use this feature.

8. More translations (to what language?)
            I personally do not need another translation; however, that's no reason not to be inclusive.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
            Not necessary

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
            Not necessary

10. Option to hide the log
            Not necessary due to its helpfulness when playing with Native Village

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
            I do not use Android

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
            Yes.  I was unable to play the first few months of the year due to only having an iPad available. 

13. Downloadable game logs
            Not necessary

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
            I have not encountered this; however, users should be able to control their experience

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
            A wise inclusion for new players.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
            This offer would have been helpful when first navigating the site.

Thanks for the opportunity to participate in feedback. User name is Ninth Elegy.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: LincLinc on 14 January 2018, 12:52:46 AM
For me, the single most important upgrade is a 100% functional mobile client.  Doesn't matter if it's a web based solution or an app for Android and iPhone.  It just needs to WORK.  Just remove the terms "right-click" and "click and drag" from your vocabulary, and a feasible touchscreen client magically appears.

Secondly, I'd like a timer variant (I wrote a whole other post on the topic, so I won't restate anything here).

Split pile ID would be nice, too.

As for Offline Mode, that should be almost the last thing on your mind right now. Your user community is large enough to sustain itself by making only the changes above, except perhaps adding more languages.

Do not neglect the CASUAL GAMERS.  MakingFun succeeded with this product because they made "FUN".

Your product is trying to make "CHAMPIONS".

There are not a sufficient number of consumers in the world who WANT to be CHAMPIONS at Dominion.  You cannot sustain a business model based on the expectation that all of your customers want a Tournament Grade experience upon every login.

Think joy. Think relaxation. The casual gamers will be your bread and butter, and the champions out there will continue to play and pay even after you do implement more mass-market philosophies in your development.

In game name:. Linc
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: irrationalE on 14 January 2018, 01:20:50 AM
irrationalE

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - I have no interest.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - I only play human opponents.
 3. A strong bot. - I only play human opponents
 4. Options for timed games - I think this is definitely something that would be useful.  "speed Dominion" is very intriguing to me and something that I would definitely try out if available.
 5. Options for undo settings - I always accept undo requests, but I do like to know that they are happening so I would not want to set up an "auto-undo" that never asks me to accept from my opponent.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. - Very useful, especially if there is a specific "tournament mode" that perhaps is more stringent with its options and has special features.  For example - no undo allowed; never able to see spectator chat; set a format for 1st player over the course of X games (ABBAAB, ABABAB, etc..); automatically create brackets/round robin pools that track winners inside the client.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table - Yes.  This would be amazing and make it so much easier to set up games.  A corollary to this is to make "locked tables" that only allow friends to join.
 8. More translations (to what language?) - I do not need more translations, but potentially a notification that your opponent is using a different language version just so you know in the event that you are trying to communicate with your opponent you will know if they speak the same language as you.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... - I don't really care about the animations as long as it is clear to you and your opponent exactly what you are doing.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...  - or about the visualizations as long as it is clear to you and your opponent exactly what you are doing.
10. Option to hide the log - I think this fits into a "tournament mode" option.  I think that this would be a good thing to include with that if someone wants to run a tournament without logs visible.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - I am not too excited about this since I don't see myself utilizing it.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - I only have android devices.
13. Downloadable game logs - Yes. The way I learned to play dominion better was to play games and post game logs and read "game reports" on f.ds.  Sure, twitch, youtube, and discord are also important these days, but being able to look at a log of a game that you have played is very beneficial.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - I think a blacklist is sufficient. 
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - Yes.  I wouldn't use it since I know how to play, but a good online tutorial is one of the best ways to learn a game, and if that tutorial is anywhere it should be in the client.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - I think this is important.  Some things are very intuitive, but others are not.  I think the best way to do this is a drop down menu of sorts with different "how to" options.  how to...undo, play multi-stage cards (thinking hamlet as an example), etc.  Just a standard list of how to do different things within the client.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: MoiraMalkin on 14 January 2018, 03:12:46 AM
My username is MoiraMalkin and I had used the old version of Dominion since it launched, and own 80% of the physical cards as well.

My number one for the wish list is being able to invite specific players to the table.  My partner and I used to play fairly frequently just for the convenience of not having to set up and put away the physical sets.  I also played with my brother who lives in another country.  Neither one of them has bothered to get an account with Shuffle IT because this functionality is not in place.  Mini-tournaments for friends would be a bonus!

Secondly, introducing bots with different play styles is necessary.  The AI of the current bots feels pretty rudimentary and it doesn't seem to take into account what the other player(s) are doing at all.

I would definitely play an iPhone/iPad app, especially if I could play offline.

I really enjoyed the campaigns of the previous company.  It performed 2 functions - it provided an introduction to specific cards in a controlled fashion; I learned some great combos that way.  Later in the campaign they would introduce changes to the global rules that livened up gameplay for the seasoned player.  There were a couple of "scenes" I returned to again and again for this reason.

Better animations and GUI would help some, but it's not a game stopper for me.  What you have is functional.  It's just driving your family station wagon when you'd previously been driving a red convertible.  You are getting to the same place, but with less panache.  :D

Something not on the list is the ability to only "buy" specific sets.  I found the pricing for the Gold subscription to be prohibitive, especially for a new player that would be overwhelmed with all the new cards.  You should have something between Silver and Gold where you can pick 3 sets for a certain time.  You could rotate sets and see what you like, or get them added to your Familiar list in a more controlled and automatic fashion.

Also not on the list is the ability to create or save a card set.  If I had a particularly fun game with a combo I might want to play it again with a friend.  These couldn't be ranked games, obviously, but it would add some playability I miss from the previous version.

Good luck with it all.  I have enjoyed playing so far.

- Moira

 
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Loulou on 14 January 2018, 03:27:30 AM
One day I bought Dominion from Goko thinking i will have it forever. This turned out not to be true, and I am unhappy. I was very happy with your new version that just ended, I played often. Thanks for the open communication. I appreciate the extra half year of subscription. My username is Loulou. I really appreciate all the work you are doing to make this game so interesting to play.

I play the Dominion board game every week, I have eight boxes of cards and I like to play on my computer. I wish I could continue.

I would love a version offline because I still play against the computer, 1 bot, I never play with a human opponent. Being able to play offline would be useful if it were available on Apple for mobile use without an internet connection on my tablet.

My table game is in French, I would appreciate having the cards in French on a game in my computer.

A real campaign mode would also be very good, as in the old version that was played on the internetl Goko, Making Fun. I loved playing each extension at my choice.

A big improvement for me would be a feature of replaying a game with the same cards, it would allow me to try new approaches to improve my game.

Another important thing for me is just the overall polish and quality of the game's UI. This includes your 9-10 points. Namely, better graphical displays of all game states (and state changes) so that the use of the log is fundamentally optional. Better animations when cards are won / bought / played / ... Yes, especially for cards that reveal and discard cards. I do not like that I almost always have to look at the log to figure out what just happened. I think there might be a short delay when my opponent does things, he plays an action that affects me but does not require any contribution from me, that he buys a card, ... leave it on screen for a short time to have a chance to see it.

Options for timed games: Not interested, I like to take my time. Already games are moving faster than I would like.

A tutorial on how to play Dominion would be very useful for newcomers.
 
A tutorial on how to play dominion online would be useful too.

Hoping that these few comments will help you to continue to improve Dominion.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Royal on 14 January 2018, 03:38:26 AM
Hi!  Here are my thoughts!  Thanks for all the hard work!

Royal

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Don't think I would ever play this.  I like playing against other people.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Again, not sure I would play this.

 3. A strong bot.

OK, if I were to play a bot, then I would like to play a strong bot!

 4. Options for timed games

This would be fun.  Some people get annoyed if you "take too long" so this way expectations for turns would be known.  I'd likely use this option.

 5. Options for undo settings

I'd like to be able to set it to where you can undo your own move unless you see cards.  I hate when people see cards then ask for an undo!  Otherwise, I approve undos so being able to se that automatically would be cool.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Yes!  This would be fun!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

I think I'd use this sometimes.  Maybe when I'm trying to set up a three player game.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

I only speak English, so I'd like translations into that.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Actually, I love the sound effects!  So I'd love a sad sound when you get a curse and a happy sound with you trash a curse.  A magic sound when you get a boon.  Sad sound when you get hexed.  Things like that!  But maybe make it where you can turn the sounds off because I've mentioned this to people in chats and some say it would annoy them whereas others say they would love the sounds!

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

I think this would help.

10. Option to hide the log

I'd likely leave it up but I can see some people liking this.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Don't use this.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

It works fine on my ipad when I play online.

13. Downloadable game logs

Wouldn't use these.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I just block them myself.  I love the blocking option!  I was never happier than when I got to block my first slow roller!

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I say let them learn the hard way like we all had to!  Just kidding, I think some people may really appreciate this although most players are really helpful and will answer your questions.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Yeah, some people may like this but I think the game is pretty straight forward and easy to use.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Dansk on 14 January 2018, 03:46:36 AM
Feedback from Dansk for extended subscription and free offline client (Thx):
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Sure, but not critical. Advantage for me would be that offline would be much faster!
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Would be good as long as there is a "random" choice so I can't predict what the bot will do as we now can.
 3. A strong bot.
Sure, but would be better to fix the card glitches that now exist.
 4. Options for timed games
Not important to me.
 5. Options for undo settings
Sure, but not that important
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Sure, but not important to me.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, there needs to be an easier interface for connecting with friends and seeing which friends are online to invite.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not important for me.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Animations not important for me. In fact, they sometimes just get in the way and slow things down.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Better visualization of duration cards!!! Can't see what duration cards are in play between turns. Very important!
10. Option to hide the log
Opponent plays too fast so log is critical to see to find out what happened.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Would be very nice!!
13. Downloadable game logs
Not important to me.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Haven't had a problem with it, but definitely feel there should be good moderation there.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Sure, critical for people new to the game.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Definitely!!
Other comments: A same start option would be very much appreciated!
Add duration card visibility between turns and on opponents turn.
Card exclusion for particular cards that really make the game less fun (Maybe not for tournaments but for casual play.)
Better system for tagging new friends so connections can be made again later.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: petrovic on 14 January 2018, 04:39:18 AM
username: Petrovic

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I certainly enjoyed learning the game this way with MF. I would play it for sure.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This one is of limited interest to me.
 3. A strong bot.
Definitely need this. At times I know that I only have a few minutes, so need to play a bot rather than a human. But Lord Rattington is abysmally horrible, unless it is a big money board.
 4. Options for timed games
Although I know that sometimes I only have a few minutes, I do not like being pressured to play faster. I will play as fast as possible and usually will be understanding to someone else playing slightly slower, as long as it does not seem to be intentionally slow
 5. Options for undo settings
My preferred option is undo is always available unless there is new information revealed.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Would not be used by me, at least not to create a tournament. I will not say that I would never join one that someone else created
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Definitely would like to see this
 8. More translations (to what language?)
I speak only one language (as is the case with many of my fellow countrymen)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I have no issues with the animations that currently exist.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
This would be good. I dislike strongly the fact that once you get an archive played you cant see it any longer. Nothing wrong with the prince, as usually you know what you or your opponent has princed
10. Option to hide the log
only if you can also get rid of reactions being in the log. I really dislike reactions being in the log, as I find it easy to miss.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I am an android user, and find the client unusable on any mobile device. I loved having the app with MF, even if they did not always get things released quickly or accurately. With a mobile device, I find myself having to rotate the device to see options on the right hand side, I cant see the score at the end of the game because it cuts off in the middle of the screen and I find it to be generally unplayable. I think for this reason I have only ever tried to play against bots on a mobile device.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not an apple user, nor likely to be
13. Downloadable game logs
this is no interest to me. I love the game, but do not make it my life pursuit to be the best at it.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I have not seen any issues with slowplayers or chat abusers in a long time. No improvement needed as far as I can tell.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
AS a seasoned player, I would not use this myself (which is how you asked us to answer the questions)
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
same as for #15
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Soapforbody on 14 January 2018, 04:47:47 AM
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I like the idea personally, I found the campaign in the previous version fun

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would be great... I sometimes like to play 2 bots, and to have a setting for different styles would be a cool addition.

3. A strong bot.
I think this is the most important change for me.... I read a few comments that people can just play other players if they would like a challenge, but the advantage to playing a bot is they play immediatley, no need to wait for someone who may be potentially slow. I am a pretty busy person, so being able to play a quick game against a stronger bot would be fantastic.

 5. Options for undo settings
Great idea, i have some personal guidelines for undos myself, as long as the player didn't draw I typically don't mind giving an undo. I mean even if they draw and forgot to use a reserve card or somethig, i usually dont mind letting people go back as long as its in good faith...

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
YES!!!! Pls do this as well, I got a few friends I play with in real life, and i bet this would draw them into using the online game.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Great idea, althoguh it is easy to join friends already as it stands, so maybe not a priority in my eyes

8. More translations (to what language?)
I speak English and Spanish, I'm fine with English.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not so important to me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Not super important to me.... but I can see how it might help some people if they are less familiar with those cards

10. Option to hide the log
Why would you want to hide the log? the log is so key..

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Don't have an android phone

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
you can play on your iphone?! An app would be a good idea... I'd probably use it

13. Downloadable game logs
I would like this, but im not sure who I could share them with... Overall not super important for me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
It seems like there are fewer of these players than a year ago, so i feel like the moderation is going well as it stands. Plus you can block players who do this, so for me this isn't so important.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not useful for me, probably a good idea for new players though.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not useful for me, probably a good idea for new players though.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Atlarian on 14 January 2018, 05:01:16 AM

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
    As someone who has played primarily vs bots, this is something I would really like to see

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles -  Would appreciate
 3. A strong bot.  - Yes, as long as play style vaires
 4. Options for timed games -no
 5. Options for undo settings - I would like
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. - would not use, prefer solo play
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table - would not use due to solo play
 8. More translations (to what language?)  no need
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...  - no need
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...  could be useful
10. Option to hide the log -yes
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)  this could be interesting
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)  - android user  n/a
13. Downloadable game logs - I would not use, but could see others liking them to learn
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)  n/a when only playingh with bots
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion  - useful when new sets occur
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.  -could help new players


user name  Atlarian
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: TheStorm042 on 14 January 2018, 05:02:45 AM
Thanks for doing this, very generous of you!  Hope the feedback is useful!

Username:  TheStorm042

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
100% of my dominion play is either (1) myself against bots or (2) myself with 1-2 (known) friends, usually in the same physical room.  (we don't like to play with the physical cards because setup time involved when you want a different set of cards each game)

Anything that supports one or both of these use cases would be swell.  If offline really means "offline" rather than, say, direct connections only, then it doesn't really have much value to me beyond playing bots online.  I assume you're not going to give free access to multiplayer, though I would pay (one-time) for that if it was an option.

Also, my laptop is a Chromebook, so a webapp is more useful to me than, say, a Windows or Mac application.  So, the offer for "free offline client" could be replaced by "free perpetual access to cards online but only in bot games" and I'd be just as happy.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot.
As mentioned, bot play is very important to me.  Honestly, I don't mind the current difficulty -- I win most of the time (which feels good) but not all the time (which would be boring).  But, if you have ideas to make this more interesting, great!

4. Options for timed games
For the most part, not interested.  HOWEVER, if the time allowed could be asymmetrical to give one player a handicap, that would be fun and useful to me.  Timing might also be interesting to resolve ties and/or have a penalty system (lose on VP for every minute over the limit or some such).

5. Options for undo settings
Someone else mentioned a setting to auto-allow any undos in which you haven't received new information yet (e.g., seen new cards).  I would be very supportive of this.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Probably not something I'd use.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
As I said, this is a primary use case, but I haven't had trouble playing matches with my friends to date, so I'm not sure what this would add over and above current feature.  You know my use case; I'll let you decide how important this is then :)

8. More translations (to what language?)
Klingon or Elvish would be cool.

(seriously, though, for me personally, English is all that's needed)

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I don't care about animations.  However, one thing I haven't figure out yet is how to balance speed (I don't like watching my cards slowly float to the discard pile) vs. being able to clearly see what the opponent has done.  Tough question, IMO.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I haven't actually used Prince in any games, so am not sure here.  Everything else seems to visualize well.  Although a small note is that it's not immediately obvious where to click to see your mat contents (once you have figured it out, it's fine).

10. Option to hide the log
I like the log.  Even if I didn't, I'm not sure what else I'd do with that space.  I guess some people might prefer the aesthetics of not seeing it, but that doesn't bother me.

nit:  There are two #10s :)

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I would certainly download and install this, but suspect that I'd rarely play it in practice.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
n/a

13. Downloadable game logs
No interest.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
No interest.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I guess this would be nice.  Would only be useful to me if, say, I'm trying to get a friend to check out the game.  But, honestly, I think anyone I'd want to play with would be able to figure it out sans tutorial.  That said, this seems useful to YOU, to help get more players!

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
A good UI should render this unnecessary.  You're almost there, except for small things like I mentioned in the first #10.  But a FAQ or in game tooltips should be able to accomplish this more efficiently than a tutorial.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: COmissMissy on 14 January 2018, 05:10:21 AM
I agree with other users that I’ve noticed and appreciate the improvements made over the last year. I also appreciate the extra half year of subscription offer. My username is MissMissy. Just because this just happened and I’m thinking about it, one "wish" that I might have would to allow users to restrict table access to friends only. There are many times that I am starting a table to play with a specific friend (or friends) and must kick another player who arrives first.

Here are my thoughts on the items on your list:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots.
I wouldn’t really use this because I’m online most of the time.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles.
I’m not sure what you mean by “play styles.”  Difficulty settings would be nice.

3. A strong bot.
Yes, difficulty settings would be nice.

4. Options for timed games.
I’m not sure what this would mean. I’ve never played a timed game.

5. Options for undo settings.
Does this mean the option to turn off undo settings? I don’t really use Undo that often anyway.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes, I could see this being fun.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table.
Hah, yes, please (basically the same thing I requested above).

8. More translations (to what language?).
Not needed for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
This isn’t all that important to me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, please.

10. Option to hide the log
I will never hide the log.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?).
I generally don’t play games on my phone.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?).
I don’t have an iPhone.

13. Downloadable game logs.
Not sure that I’d ever use this.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slow players, ...).
I’ve never had an issue, but I’ve seen some chatter.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion.
Yes, this is important. General information on each of the Kingdoms would be nice too.

16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion online.
Shouldn’t this be the same as regular Dominion?

Thanks!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: rafatarkus on 14 January 2018, 07:04:34 AM
Hello,
Thanks in advance. My username is rafatarkus. Here's the feedback

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I really like to play campaigns but I don't think an offline client is necessary

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, from very easy (for newbies)  to very hard (for advanced)

 3. A strong bot.
See above

 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
No necessary

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, it would be fine

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Although I can read and understand English fluedly, a translation to Spanish would be fine.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No. The actual animation is OK

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I would like a visualization for the Native Village stack (or at least to know how many cards are stacked)

10. Option to hide the log
No. The log is very useful

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't need it but I suppose it would be OK for others

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes, and/or a way to review the log when the game has finished.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Yes. I think it should be a way to be more specific on why a player is being marked  with bad behaviour

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Definitely. I liked the old tutorials and they were very useful

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I think it can be the same tutorial for the question 15.

Last but not least, I'd like more official tournaments.

Thanks!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: mh01 on 14 January 2018, 07:49:38 AM
Thanks for doing this!  My thoughts follow.  I separated the duplicated ’10’ into 10A and 10B.  My username is mh01

Bots: It’s hard for me to imagine what playing against well-designed bots would be like.  Could be really cool, but I’m just having trouble prioritizing 1, 2, and 3 because I don’t know what they might realistically look like.
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.

 4. Options for timed games
This would be awesome, for the challenge of it, but also for times when I have 10 minutes to play “just one more” game of Dominion.

 5. Options for undo settings
Low priority for me, but I’d find it useful to be able to pre-approve all undo requests from certain players (including but not limited to friends).

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Low priority for me, but I support the idea.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Moderate priority.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Latin!  But don’t take away time from anything people care about to do that..

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
As long as they don’t slow the game down.

10A. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Moderate priority.

10B. Option to hide the log
Not interested.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not relevant for me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
High priority.  I prefer a good app to a good web interface.

13. Downloadable game logs
High priority.  I don’t understand why the log is visible right up until the very end of the game, but then as soon as the game ends it vanishes into the ether.  I understand there must be reasons for that, but it’s a source of frustration.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I haven’t found this to be an issue at all.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not relevant for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Low priority.  I play functionally, but every so often I learn about a feature I’d never known about, so a tutorial about the online mechanics could be really instructive.

In order:

4. Options for timed games
13. Downloadable game logs
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
10A. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
5. Options for undo settings
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
8. More translations (to what language?)

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
10B. Option to hide the log
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Fajher on 14 January 2018, 08:31:44 AM
Greetings - My username is Fajher. Here's my feedback...

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I very much miss the campaign component of the old Dominion so definitely would like to see it back.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Absolutely. Would provide much needed variety & more challenges.

 3. A strong bot.
Not sure how this would differ from the bot with settings, but yes the option for a strong bot would be great.

 4. Options for timed games
Not of interest to me

 5. Options for undo settings
Not sure what this means, but if it's the option to recall a certain card play then I'd say no as I go by the "card laid is a card played" rule

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Don't currently have a lot of Dominion friends, but sounds like a good idea.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Why not?

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Don't know what options currently exist, but if you are looking to expand play globally, why not?

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Sounds interesting and could foresee some entertaining graphics for when certain cards are played.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Better is usually better...

10. Option to hide the log
Yes

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes.  Just lost one of my online Carcassone buds when he switched over from iPhone

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I'd think this would be reciprocal to my #11 for current Android users

13. Downloadable game logs
I don't get that in depth with this game

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Good idea. I've had a couple online opponents that could use calling out for this

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Absolutely and should include some basic tips on card combinations

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
ditto

Thanks... keep up the great work and hope to see the off line campaign games return soon!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: keithksf on 14 January 2018, 10:36:08 AM
Hi. Thanks for the generous offer, but like many here, I don't feel a need for you to compensate me for giving feedback, and I don't think that it's your fault that my transaction with MF worked out badly.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Currently, I only play against people, but I would be interested in (a) campaign(s) like the old ones on MF if the AI were challenging (so this links to #3 below). It's not a high priority, but I'd enjoy it. And while you sensibly said to answer only about what each of us personally wants, I'll also answer on behalf of my 9-year-old daughter, who had her own MF account and greatly enjoyed the campaigns, and might well be drawn back into online play (i.e., I would get her an account again) if they returned.

 2-3. A bot with a setting for different play styles / A strong bot.
 Not high priorities for me except in re campaigns, but I might enjoy experimenting with them if they existed.

 4. Options for timed games
 It's a good idea in theory, but I haven't found slow play a problem in practice (with rare exceptions), so it's a low priority to me.

 5. Options for undo settings
 As many seem to do, I support this--especially automatic undo for steps that didn't yield new information.

 6-7. Online mini-tournaments; ... Option to invite specific players .
 These are not a priority for me, as I tend simply to play with strangers. If I had friends who routinely played, it would be great.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
 N/A (English-speaking)

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
 Yes. This is a very high priority for me.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
 Also a very high priority.

10. Option to hide the log
Not particularly important to me, but might be nice.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Assuming that this encompasses tablets as well as phones, this is also a very high priority for me. (I wouldn't play on a phone, but would love to do so on my tablet.) That would include simply making an app that allowed online play with people, though I understand why an offline client for play against bots/campaigns is the ultimate goal. (I very often play against people on other, similar apps--e.g., Ascension--on my iPad on the subway, in cars with ride-share services, etc., using my phone as a wifi hotspot.) Maybe it wouldn't make economic sense to make an app *before* you have better AI--i.e., to make an app that would just be for playing online--but I'd buy it in a second if you did.

13. Downloadable game logs
Another in the not-important-to-me-but-I-see-why-it's-useful category.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Not a priority only because I haven't had significant problems.

15-16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion / Dominion online
Not important to me.

Thanks again for all your efforts and for the online product, which I greatly enjoy.
-Keith
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Thorfor on 14 January 2018, 11:28:18 AM
Hi,

here are my comments to your issues (I am German, so I apologize in advance for mistakes ;-)
 
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
    I would appreciate because there is not WiFi everywhere, especially in Germany :-)
    I really liked the campaign because the AI played specials tactics and you had to find a solution to beat it
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
    not so important for me, I want the strongest opponent possible, I want to get better..
 3. A strong bot.
    see my comment in 2; as strong as possible; btw: I think the bots play much better than e.g. 1 year ago; it´s fun to play with them
 4. Options for timed games
    not so important for me because I don´t play with unknown opponents
 5. Options for undo settings
    the present one is ok for me
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
    don´t need for now because I don´t have so many friends who play Dominion online
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
    yes, would be cool; I am used to this option from other online games
 8. More translations (to what language?)
    German is sufficient for me
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
    not so important; there is also the log to see transactions which were done
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
    yes, this would be a great thing
10. Option to hide the log
    nice, but not necessary
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
    I play on my Android tablet with browser; unfortunately not all browsers support fullscreen but I found one
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
    I don´t have one, so no issue for me
13. Downloadable game logs
    not necessary for me
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
    since I don´t play with unknown player I have no feeling how big is the need for that
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
    not necessary for me personally but perhaps for new players
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
    same as 15.

I really like the Dominion user interface and have fun playing this great game; some improvements would be great (see issue 10, first one  ;) )
One correction: there is a spelling mistake in the German translation of the Empires card "Royal Blacksmith": correct would be "Königlicher Schmied" instead of "Könglicher Schmied"

Many thanks,
Thorfor
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: alexandros_a on 14 January 2018, 12:12:50 PM
Hi there! My username is alexandros_a

Features numbered 2,3,4,5,6,7,10,11,12,14 would all be more than welcomed from me! The rest wouldn't make me a difference.

In the online timed games I would also like to have the option to pause for i.e. 2 times, for 3 minutes a time, so that the other player would know exactly how much time he/she would have to do stg else. Generally time flexibility against other human players would add to the experience. Sometimes I choose to play against bot just because I suspect that I may receive a telephone call or have to reply to some other contact within the next few minutes and I don't want to obstruct a possible human game. Having the ability to pause and name this category i.e. "slow game" might give the opportunity to enjoy the game more against human intelligence!

Cheers
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: HinghamtoHingham on 14 January 2018, 01:19:06 PM
Thanks for this opportunity Stef please see comments below

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would like this as I have problems being on line at times.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I do most of my playing against bots. I normally do 2 player and I find Lord Rattington very limited. In particular when he is using Apothecary or Counterfeit, he will pursue those cards against any rationality and the game is always an easy win.

I would like to have a range of different bots with different characteristics, some obvious and some random a bit like the opponents in Sid Meir’s Civilization.

 3. A strong bot.

Being able to calibrate the strength of the bot would be helpful, again see ref to civilisation above.

 4. Options for timed games

Could be interesting could be done like a chess tournament match with an on screen clock. You could agree with your opponent time to look at cards at the beginning and then an overall time for the game divided by 2

 5. Options for undo settings

I don’t really like undo, it’s ok with bots but then the temptation is to go back and back to create the ultimate right game. With live opponents it creates a potential for conflict, again before a game the players could agree for undo to be on/off. You could also get a max of one or two asks per game.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Could be fun

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Not specifically bothered.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Won’t help me except it might increase interaction with players who are not English speakers.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/…

I don’t like the current animation, the swirling of the cards makes me feel slightly nauseated and it puts me off 4 player games which I used to play all the time under the MF system. The four player system is far too crowded.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Split piles yes, so that you had an explanation when you put the cursor over it.
Also here’s an idea, not in line with the rules but why not shuffle the split pile.

10. Option to hide the log

Yes

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

N/A

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

I probably wouldn’t use it, the screen is too small

13. Downloadable game logs

Can’t see the point.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, …)

Yes. There should be an easily visible report button

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Yes

Could it include a brief on each expansion and the philosophy behind it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Yes

Thank you for giving me this opportunity to feedback and I appreciate your sensitivity to those of us who used to be MF clients.

Couple of other things.

I really don’t like the layout in Familiar Cards. Could it not also encompass the other features that have come in with recent expansions.
 Also could there be options so that we draw from certain sets so eg that you could have a game using basic, intrigue and nocturne as an option?

With thanks

Colin
(HinghamtoHingham)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: SirDagen on 14 January 2018, 01:56:50 PM
Being a developer myself I have lots of sympathy for the difficulty of your task and the fact that it took longer than expected. I really like Dominion and enjoy playing it with your new client. Thank you for putting all the love and effort into creating it the way it is now.

For me the monthly price is a bit too high to keep it running so that I buy it for a month if I feel to do it again. The main reason for this is my lower interest in playing online games for distraction. I do not use it enough, although if I do I am very glad it is there.
   
(Since the Dominion community is so capable and willing to participate I think offering APIs to be able to contribute would be a great addition, e.g. to develop a strong bot or to prettify the log, etc. Although I do know that stuff like this tends to be a lot of work and might therefore not help you at all.)


I gladly answer your questions:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I do not need it at all.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
no

 3. A strong bot.
A decently strong bot, e.g. that plays big money plus a key card, is enough for me. Although I would enjoy having a really strong one, it is not my priority.

 4. Options for timed games
I would really love this - a lot. Like in chess, if you play complicated stuff you can do this with higher time controls or must know what to do.

 5. Options for undo settings
Yes, I love to have: auto for no information reveal and grant for others.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Nice to have, but no priority

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
yes please

 8. More translations (to what language?)
no

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
not interested

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
yes, i want to see both cards of the split piles

10. Option to hide the log
no

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
no

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
no

13. Downloadable game logs
I loved the old, beautiful councilroom game logs for analysis. Somebody should provide these please.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I would like to have a mute button in case the opponent annoys me very much.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
no

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
no

My username is sirdagen.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Jabba on 14 January 2018, 03:00:16 PM
Hi,

my username is Jabba. Here's my feedback. All I all my strongest wish for the next implementations is an improved AI.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
--> I don't care a lot about this.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
--> It would be nice to choose how strong the bot would play. I strongly appreciate developing a strong bot.

 3. A strong bot.
--> Yes!

 4. Options for timed games
--> I don't need it. Except from extra slow play I like that there's no time pressure and you take your time to think about your strategy in the next turns. In my opinion the time you need to thinks depends strongly on the selected kingdom cards on the board.

 5. Options for undo settings
--> That's fine as it actually is.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
--> That would be great.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
--> Not necessary for me.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
--> Huttese would be great!!  :)  Otherwise it's not necessary for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
--> I don't need it.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
--> That would be nice to have.

10. Option to hide the log.
--> I appreciate that there's a log, I don't want to hide it.

11./12. Android/iphone app (or just improved compatibility?)
--> That would be nice, but not my highest priority.

13. Downloadable game logs
--> If that is easy to implement, it would be nice, otherwise not.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
--> In the last months I haven't had problems with any of it.

15./16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion/Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
--> I think if you know Dominion, the online version is kind of self-explaining. A general tutorial on how to play Dominion would be nice, but I tend to think most players playing online know Dominion from the card game?


Cheers from Tatooine!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: twsb on 14 January 2018, 03:13:14 PM
Hi Stef - My username is twsb


ere are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I actually really enjoyed this in the old version - some of the campaign levels were really difficult and I'd have to work on different strategies to beat the bots or get all the stars. So, I'd definitely play campaigns like that.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I would appreciate having more than one bot and having them be different levels of difficulty.
 
3. A strong bot.

Yes! This is really frustrating in this version.

 4. Options for timed games

I don't know how this would work, but I'd like to be able to judge the time better.  It is frustrating to start an online game with plenty of time and then have to resign (even if I'm winning) because the game is just taking way too long and I'm out of time. This is often from slow players.

 5. Options for undo settings

Does this mean that you could say at the beginning of the game whether undos would be allowed? Or undos in certain situations.  I am generous with undos since I sometimes click wrong, but some people abuse them.  For instance, I would want to block undos after a player has drawn new cards during the turn.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Not necessary; could be fun.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes, this would be very, very useful!

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Not needed for me

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I'm fine with the animations

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes. This is frustrating for me, especially with unfamiliar cards.

10. Option to hide the log

Not necessary

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Not for me

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Yes, please! I used to play the old game on my iPad and have missed having a ios app

13. Downloadable game logs

This could be helpful, not not a high priority

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I've just sent messages to moderators and then blocked players, so I don't know how the moderation is now

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

This would be extremely helpful.  It would be helpful to have them for new expansions as well.  It would also be helpful to be able to click on individual cards for mini tutorials, or to have access to strategy guides.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

This would be good for new players.  I could use more help functionality


Thanks for the opportunity to give feedback!

Twsb
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: aku chi on 14 January 2018, 03:37:16 PM
Hi, Stef.  aku chi here.

Personal wishes:

Of the features on your wishlist, the following would be personally valuable to me (most important bolded):
3. A strong bot.
4. Options for timed games
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
13. Downloadable game logs


I'm sure some of the other features would be helpful for newer players, especially tutorials.  Thanks for seeking feedback!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: kwiggen on 14 January 2018, 04:14:08 PM


Thanks for the offer - here are my comments:  My name in the game is Kevin Wiggen

I have been playing online dominion since the isotropic days.  I use dominion as a quick break from work.  My biggest asks:

1)  Speed.  I don't have much time so the quicker the game is, the better it is for me.  I don't care about cards shuffling or animationns, I want a quick game because i probably should be working instead.

2)  iphone+ support.  I use my phone for most things.  I don't own a tablet, but i own the + size iphone.  I would love to play on this device (app or not i don't care).  In the past the app has not supported phone, even though my screen is pretty big.

3)  I want a way to see what cards are sitting on my "mat".  Some cards move to a mat in the game, and i can't find a way to view whats on the mat.

4)  Ability to say up front what cards i don't want to play with.  I simply resign when i see a certain set of cards as they aren't fun for me.  Possession for instance

Your wishlist:

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
   -- don't care i never play offline or against bots

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   -- don't play bots

 3. A strong bot.
   -- don't play bots

 4. Options for timed games
  -- It would be nice to know up front if i am entering a game with Colonies.  These are usually longer games and sometimes i don't have time.

 5. Options for undo settings
  -- Undo is one of the best things you guys added.  It was needed for YEARS.  Don't make it too complicated.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
  -- don't care

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
  -- don't care

 8. More translations (to what language?)
  -- don't care

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
  -- please don't slow things down.  Also remember that since i usually play others, if they have on amazing animations and i don't, my game is slowed down.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
  -- maybe

10. Option to hide the log
  -- i like the log so i don't need this

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
  -- don't care

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
  -- YES ON MY + please

13. Downloadable game logs
  -- don't care

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
  -- I hit the occasional asshole, but i find most people are cool. 

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
  -- don't care

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
  -- don't care
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Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: almennur on 14 January 2018, 05:51:30 PM
The nickname is almennur.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would rather have a feature when I have to have subscription to play with other human players, but can play bots with once purchased expansions for free all the time within the same "online" client.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

The more the merrier.

3. A strong bot.

Stronger than humans? Yes, please!

4. Options for timed games

Absolutely.

5. Options for undo settings

Yes, please.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I could use it.
 
7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes, it will help to avoid confusion.

8. More translations (to what language?)

Not a priority to me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I would love to see sharper animations that convey more information within a shorter period.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

It would be helpful.

10. Option to hide the log

Not a priority.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Will it be usable on a small screen?

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Will it be usable on a small screen?

13. Downloadable game logs

Oh yeah, stats is the key for developing new strategies.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

It could be useful.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Like a campaign? Sure.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Could be integrated with the point above.

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Formosare on 14 January 2018, 05:57:05 PM
please include me in the list.
 THanks, formosare
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Josh Glover on 14 January 2018, 06:48:24 PM
First of all, I love the game and the community around it. For me, the real strength of the game is that the vast majority of people who play are respectful of each other. I don't see much abusive behaviour at all, and many people are really nice, some going so far as to offer tips and strategies to less experienced players.

I absolutely loved the campaigns in the old MF game, so I would really like to see something similar here.

As for the features that I would most like to see:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Cheers,
Josh
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Gluehwuermchen on 14 January 2018, 09:04:00 PM
Hi!

My nickname is LiLa, thank you very much for the offer! Here are my thoughts concerning the various points:

1. An offline client allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I would probably use this, when not having a good internet connection

2. A bot with a setting for different play stiles/
3. A strong bot
I don't play against bots now, guess I would not use that

4. Options for timed games/
5. Options for undo settings
Haven't missed that until now

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends
Could be interesting, maybe I would use that, although I only played against random players until now

7. Options to invite specific players to your table
That would be a good feature, I would appreciate that

8. More translations
Not needed here. I play the English version which I am used to rather than the German version, although I'm German.

9. Better animations
Not required

10. Better visualization of split piles, etc.
That would be great! Maybe it's because I play on the iPad or it's because I'm not so much into technical matters, but I could never see the lower part of split piles, so I would very much appreciate that!

11. Option to hide the log
Why should I want to do this? Could not follow the game then!

12. Android app/
13. iPhone app
Not needed here

14. Downloadable game logs
I would not use that. As soon as the game is over, it's over, I do not analyze that.

15. Improved moderation
Not needed here

16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion/
17. Tutorial on how to play Dominion online
Yes, that would be a good idea! Maybe I could get some friends from real life to playing it then, because I do not play the card game IRL any more, as one short game takes such a lot of preparation time.


Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Ranna156 on 14 January 2018, 09:22:59 PM
Thanks for offering this Stef. My username is the same as on here - Ranna156

Feedback:
I am actually pretty happy with how far you have come. You seem to handle glitches pretty quickly. I haven't tried it yet, but i think i recall you saying that you guys fixed the android issue of not being able to order cards.

I am having trouble thinking of all the things I would like, but here are a few:

One thing that bothers me is when there is a DONATE on the board and you buy the last province or 3rd pile (whatever) and you also hit DONATE it won't allow you to trash cards. I don't see why it wouldn't do that when it should. There are games with curses and also games where that event that gives you +1 VP if you trash a card is on the board. Anyway not sure what DonaldX intended with the DONATE option but I don't see why you can't trash after the last card is bought since it is still your turn...UPDATE: just went back and read the DONATE card and it does specify after your turn...would still be cool to be able to do. I would like to know what the initial intent was and if actually should really be allowed.

MF had an option where you could create your own deck and save it. I really enjoyed that and would make decks all the time (and save them) and try different things. Also then play them at various times. It would be nice if we had that option here (and not in the way you currently can).

Another feedback (and this isn't an issue for me since i get it): I was recently in a game with someone who tried to mint one of those coins that may start in your deck instead of a copper. He got upset when he couldn't do it and i tried to explain that there is not a supply of them so you can't mint them. He said something like 'well the card doesn't say from the supply it just says to gain a copy'. Anyway maybe in the next update of that card add the words 'from the supply'.

I notice sometimes that even though i have rated game checked, when i search it will somehow put me in an unrated game. Glitch? Or is something going on I am not aware of? UPDATE: I am not sure how the whole resigning/adding a bot thing works. Does adding a bot automatically make the game unrated? And what happens to the player who resigned or got made to resign ranking? If it automatically makes the game unrated then that I think this area needs some work and/or options or something.

UPDATE: Another issue i have is when in a 3 player game someone either resigns or gets made to resign so a bot goes in. Great. Then the other person might eventually resign and then it just says you tied the game with the other bot. Anyway this kind of ties in with the above but I think it would be nice if it could stay rated and you just play out the game with the two bots. Only once did it say that I won, but I think that was only because there was absolutely no way anyone else could have. Not sure if it then went to unrated though.

UPDATE: it would be nice to be able to add a note to your blacklist and friend list about the person. I have recently starting banning people who take a lot of time to play (and not necessarily slow rolling the game) or who seem to resign a lot. It would be nice to add a note so that if in the future the way the resigning etc gets fixed I can go back and unblock someone. Also, it would be nice to add notes on friends...for example there is a 'friend' who sometimes gets in my table and will consistently buy up all the cards in a pile or two and then the game ends. I would like to add a note to this person so that I can remember to adjust my playing based on what I figure they are going to do.

Below are my answers:

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - yes i would appreciate especially if i could re-download it if I got a new computer etc. I don't play with bots here online, but i did enjoy the campaigns on MF.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - sure if it could help teach improve my game. I am good at 3 player dominion but totally suck at 2 player.
 3. A strong bot. - yes
 4. Options for timed games - yes
 5. Options for undo settings - yes
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. - never done a tournament but sure
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table - yes, also i think it would be nice to just be able to advertise your game and what the settings are. Also if we could build & save decks that would be nice too (mentioned that above).
 8. More translations (to what language?) - As long as you have English I am good.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... - Don't care
10. Option to hide the log - only if we don't have to use it for anything
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... - sure especially on split piles
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - Mentioned above
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - N/A
13. Downloadable game logs - sure
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - YES although i will say the blocking seems to have worked really well lately. I think most slow players i encounter now actually have comp issues rather than being jerks. Although I still do randomly encounter one. It would be nice if there was a 'report abuse' button.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - N/A for me, but i think it would be nice for newcomers.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - uh sure.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Alex Ich on 14 January 2018, 09:35:46 PM
Hi Stef! Really appreciate this gesture.

I'm happy to provide feedback from the perspective of a casual player over the last few years.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Not too interested in this. I could see myself using on a mobile device while on an airplane or something similar, but that's about it. An offline LAN type of client would be interesting, but probably much more difficult and old-fashioned.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Rarely play bots, but could see it being useful. Likely low priority.

3. A strong bot.

Same feelings as prior answer. Better than a weak bot I suppose!

4. Options for timed games

This would be great. Could see it being really fun! I imagine it could get rather tricky with engine builds though.

5. Options for undo settings

This is definitely a nice-to-have, but rather low priority IMO.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I personally wouldn't use this much, but it sounds really fun.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table

For me, this would be a fantastic feature since I mostly play with the same few people.

8. More translations (to what language?)

English is perfect for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Another nice-to-have. Wouldn't say it's top priority, but can't hurt.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Definitely this as a high priority IMO. Split piles in particular are a pain in the current state.

10. Option to hide the log

This could be nice/fun. I like this feature, but definitely just a nice-to-have.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Doesn't affect me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

This would be nice, but I don't think it is worth a major engineering effort if would be required. Tablets perform better on the mobile side.

13. Downloadable game logs

For me personally, not a big deal. I know more competitive players that would enjoy this, however.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Doesn't affect me, never really had issues.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I think this could be very helpful for new players, and for aiding friends you introduce to the game. The game itself is already quite complex, and, when having to explain the nuances in the UI on top of everything, it can be overwhelming.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Ah, previous answer sort of answers both 15 and 16. Tutorials are definitely welcome though!

Additional thoughts.

A few last things that come to mind:

-A way to easily follow top players or the current "top game" in progress (if they allow spectators of course).

-Music! I miss this about the old client. Something nostalgic about cheesy music playing. Toggle-able of course.

Thanks again for opening up discussion here. My IGN is the same as my forum name here and I currently have all expansions.

Cheers!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: marfik57 on 14 January 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Hi,

Dominion Online hs greatly evolved during last year and now its a real pleasure to play it, so I appreciate a lot your offer as it is much nicer to play with all the extension, and I can't afford myself to buy them on and on each year. My feedback is summarised below. My username is marfik57.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

That would be good, providing that bots are playing really well, at least that what I remember from few years ago, I haven't played with them for a while. It could be also good to have an opportunity to play with friends on a sinle computer.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

It will be fun, espaecially if you have also an option with a random choice, so that you don't know in advance.

 3. A strong bot.

Sure, other way there is no sense  in it :)

 4. Options for timed games

That will be good for online implementing in order not to wait for too long for some of the partners.

 5. Options for undo settings

Simple undo as it is now is enough.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Could be fun.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Could be good for playing with friends.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

From my point of view English is enough, most internet users  nowdays know it...
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

No need, this will just slow the game.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

It is ok now.

10. Option to hide the log

No need.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I have iPhone and it is working fine there, don't know about android.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

For me it works fine

13. Downloadable game logs

no need

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

ok as it is now.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

you have one already. I am playing Dominion for long time, so no specific opinion...

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Could be useful for newcomers.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: marfik57 on 14 January 2018, 10:00:12 PM
Please include me in the list.
Thank you, marfik57 .
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: L0lapup on 14 January 2018, 11:22:28 PM
Hi, L0lapup here. Here are my thoughts on the specific feedback requested, as well as a few other ideas:
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Definitely would use this, I prefer bots to real people, faster and I don't have to worry about being rude if I have to step away for a while
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
That would be nice
 3. A strong bot.
That would be good, is it possible to give feedback on play from a strong bot? advice on better moves to make?
 4. Options for timed games
Not sure I get the point of that
 5. Options for undo settings
Yes definitely, maybe only with bots, undo could get really annoying live
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
personally I wouldn't use this but some would
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
no live people for me
 8. More translations (to what language?)
not necessary for me
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
doesn't matter, faster play is better, don't slow down with animations
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I don't understand this
10. Option to hide the log
options are always good
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
not necessary for me
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
yes definitely would use this, especially if available offline
13. Downloadable game logs
meh
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I don't use chat myself
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
yes please
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
yes please

okay, and here are some additional requests not included in the original list:
I used to really like it when there was a cumulative score kept, I felt like I was working toward something, and I could see if I was getting progressively better. I also liked it when there were rewards and things unlocked when I achieved a certain score, or could buy additional things with points won, etc.
I would really value the ability to buy additional cards/sets with points or coins earned with extended play. I would even be willing to see occasional advertisements (Ideally for other games I could sample free) for the benefit of the ability to buy cards with coins.
That's it, thanks for continuing to work on this. This is the one game I like to play online, other than puzzle type games.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: StoneCamp on 15 January 2018, 12:17:06 AM
Hi Stef,
Thanks for the offer.
Great game, huge fan!
See my reply below:
Stonecamp

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
This would be great, most of what I do is play bots online anyway.  Would be great in a tablet (IOS) app or desktop (Windows) program
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Had this before, and it was great for variety, helps develop against differing styles, and makes it more playable.
 3. A strong bot.
Would love this!!!  A serious challenge, and even the ability to replay the same kingdom to learn and test different approaches
 4. Options for timed games
Great idea online to keep things moving, maybe a little grace up front, an opportunity to review cards before starting though.
 5. Options for undo settings
Indifferent here, shouldn't be needed, but helpful for rookies.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not my thing, but could develop interest if allowed to be self administered (by users who set them up)
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Much missed option, my friends don't play online with me anymore because this is missing :(
 8. More translations (to what language?)
English is the only one I use, but would want to play against the best from other languages.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
As long as it doesn't slow things down, for older clients or not perfect network speed.  Would also not want a delay in starting, to load stuff...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Not high on my priority list, but all such minor improvements are noticed and appreciated!
10. Option to hide the log
As above...
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I am iPhone
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Space is an issue, so it needs to be smartly implemented to make it more usable.  But would be great!
13. Downloadable game logs
Nice to have, not essential.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Timed games / turns should address the speed issue.  I have not experienced an issue with abuse, frustration at time:) but that is somewhat satisfying...
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Just a simple one for newcomers, but campaigns would be more appreciated.  They are a good way to learn new cards etc...
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
As above...
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: lookinglassgirl on 15 January 2018, 12:26:20 AM
Please add me to the list

username: lookinglassgirl

Sets: Prosperity, Alchemy, Promos, Empires, Hinterlands, Seaside, Intrigue, Dark Ages, Cornucopia, Adventures, Guilds

Thanks!

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: stevedish on 15 January 2018, 12:52:32 AM
I'm happy to see this issue is remembered, as it was incredibly disappointing to have purchased the expansions a second time online (after purchasing hard copies of them), only to have those digital versions taken away. I appreciate your efforts to correct this, and think an offline client is the best solution.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Ranna156 on 15 January 2018, 12:53:06 AM
I responded to your feedback page so please add me to the list.
Username: Ranna156

Also for the people interested in better table options I took a shot of an example of what i think is an easy way to create and look for tables. You can create private tables etc or even just create a table and invite others to join. It is easy to view the table options and at a glance see some other options that aren't necessarily a requirement for the game. The screen shot I took of a site that has a lot of card games. It is called Pogo.com and they have all kinds of games. I don't know how difficult it would be to implement something like this but here is a shot of it. The particular game i screen shot was a bridge game which is a 4 player game so there are always 4 seats. In Dominion i guess there could be 2 - 6. Anyway you can tell from the screen shot how easy it is to find out information about the game. The second window is after i clicked on the Information button on table 5 I think. Anyway just wanted to share some food for thought.


Thanks!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Trangor on 15 January 2018, 01:24:22 AM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

1. For an offline app to be playable the AI needs to be much better. Unless you create som neural network and use big data (i.e. a lot of played games) that is not going to happen with the diversity Dominion has come to with the new expansions. However, this is not entirely true, it is possible to create special algorithms for special situations (but then the intelligence is is at the deck creator, not the AI).
2. -
3. -
4. 4 minutes is way too long. Usually if I meet a "dead" player I forfeit and start another match instead. 1 minute should be enough. Naturally the best would be to be able to change the setting yourself as well.
5. The problem with undoing today is that it's not clear at all what you undo. When you are asked if you accept the undo, it should state what undo action you are asked to verify. Also, it would be great if you could have a setting: accept undos (choose types). I would check everyhing except seeing drawn cards.
6. Maybe it would be nice. Leagues could also be an interesting feature.
7. Inviting others should really be possible in any UI built after 1990.
8. Not necessary at all. What is wrong with English?
9. Don't care about animations.
10. Don't really understand what you are looking for. The Prince visualisation is ok as it is. Have never had any problem with that.
10b. No immediate need for hiding the log as long as you play on a computer (which I do).
11. Don't care. I play on a computer.
12. Don't care. I play on a computer.
13. It would be nice to see the point development during the game in a chart after the game has finished.
14. Not really necessary. Everyone can be their own moderator by banning other people. Whenever I meet someone I don't want to play with for any kind of reason I ban the. What you can do is making it super clear that the option to blacklist other players exist. Also, if someone becomes blacklisted by a lot of other players in a short time, you could examine that player's logs and contact him/her to deliver a warning or just dispatch him/her.
15-16. I don't need a tutorial.


Other: The pricing is too high. No way I'm paying 50€/year for dominion. And you can only choose between gold and silver subscriptions. My suggestions are: lower the price and open up for subscribing to single expansions.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: overdew on 15 January 2018, 01:29:13 AM
Here are some guidelines on the kind of feedback I'm looking for:
 1. Try to keep it short & concise
 2. Try to describe your own personal wishes, not what you think is best for others.
 3. Please make actual points in these posts (instead of refering to earlier posts making points)

Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - yes, I was counting on that
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - yes
 3. A strong bot. - yes
 4. Options for timed games - no
 5. Options for undo settings - no
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.- maybe
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table - yes
 8. More translations (to what language?) - no
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... yes, if it's fast
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... yes
10. Option to hide the log - no
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - yes, improve compatibility
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - yes, improve compatibility
13. Downloadable game logs - no
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - no
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - no
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - no

fix broken AI/bot actions:
bots cannot handle lurker
bots cannot handle multiple torcherers played against them (they always discard)

add the ability to exclude specific cards when randomizing table

add an option to see $us cost (if it was there, I did not figure it out)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: OvertAnglerfish on 15 January 2018, 01:31:52 AM
My in-game username is the same as my username here.

 1-3. I have no interest in playing against bots. Perhaps an option to play against yourself would be interesting though for comparing two different strategies. i.e. a two player game where you control both players.
 4. Yes, I'd like an option for timed games. I think something like 60-90 seconds per turn with a 20-30 minute timebank would be good (and options to adjust these values). If your turn takes more than the base number, it starts coming out of your time bank. And once your time-bank is out, you get 10 second warnings before your turn forcibly ends. And for games where you *genuinely* need more time, an option to request more time from your opponent would be nice.
 5. I'd appreciate an easier way to undo multiple steps. I have never really figured out the interface for it.
 6. I probably wouldn't use this feature
 7. Yes, I would like a private table feature in addition to this.
 8. No need
 9. Personally, I know what to expect in the game already so I don't need better animations.
10a. Yes, you should be able to see both cards in a split pile when you right click on the top card.
10b. Yes, I'd like to be able to hide the log. In fact, the game should do this automatically when the screen size is reduced.
11-12. A phone screen is probably too small to comfortably play.
13. I wouldn't use this.
14. I haven't experienced that much of this, but I think an option to mute your opponent(s) is an easy way of dealing with chat abuse that doesn't require more moderators.
15-16. I don't need these.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: bogglingjudy on 15 January 2018, 01:39:59 AM
Here are the things I would like to see improved:
1. More bots to play one on one with that play differently
2. My card variety has gone down to very little, (20?)so some way that I can get that changed up
3. An app for iPhones that work ( I have a 6s plus)
4. I used to play with others online when it was simple to get into a game, but it seems hard to manage now. An easy
   way to get into or start a game would be great.
That's it. Right now I get very little with the cards I'm randomly given. I paid for quite a few sets, but they are definitely gone :(
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: PizzaPi on 15 January 2018, 01:50:11 AM
username: PizzaPi

Hello,
I've greatly enjoyed this new version of online dominion.  The best part of this platform is that it has a very solid foundation that was badly missing from the Making Fun/Goko/Funsockets edition.  The overall speed of card resolution is much better as well.  There was nothing worse than trying to play a Hunting Party stack on the Making Fun version.  I also appreciate that my laptop doesn't turn into a cooktop that drains away my battery.

My biggest criticism of the current implementation would have to be the price.  42 Euros for a one year subscription seems very high to me and was the sole reason I have not renewed since my one free year expired.  I feel like there should be some kind of discount for subscribing a longer time period.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot.
I would like there to be a campaign of some kind but nothing like the Making Fun version.  It's okay to have a few levels of just straight dominion games but there needs to be a lot of levels with a unique twist to keep it interesting.  For example, I once played a dominion implementation which had a campaign level where the goal was to set aside 3 Golds with Islands while facing multiple opponents who started with Pirate Ships in their deck.  Campaigns should also not be limited to cards belonging to single expansions like the Making Fun version.

Originally I thought that I would only be interested in the offline version that was announced but if the price of subscription is decreased then I would strongly consider sticking to the online version.

All of my games on dominion online have been against bots except for maybe a handful.  I would absolutely love if there was a stronger AI to play against.  I don't think differing play styles is really necessary (except maybe for campaigns?).  Various difficulty levels is a good thing to have.

4. Options for timed games
This does not interest me.

5. Options for undo settings
I think some improvements to the undo UI could be improved to make it clearer how far back you would like to undo.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This would be a cool feature but unlikely one that I would use.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This would be a good feature to add.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Doesn't matter to me but a good idea to increase the user base.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
This doesn't matter to me either way

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
It would be nice if when you right clicked a split pile it showed you both cards in the pile.  The other stuff such as durations, reserves, and prince targets I've gotten used to already.

10. Option to hide the log
I would never use this.  I greatly prefer seeing the log.  I originally found having to click buttons in the log as a little awkward but I've adjusted and it no longer bothers me.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

This isn't very important to me.

13. Downloadable game logs
This isn't very important to me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I rarely play against strangers so this does not matter much to me.  Moderating the internet is a nightmare.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

This and adding campaigns are both required in order for me to recommend this platform to my friends.

Thank you for reading my feedback.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: LordOrd on 15 January 2018, 02:50:12 AM
username: LordOrd

I have enjoyed the new version of Dominion Online, but it took some getting used to.
My biggest issue with the new version over the MF version is the many actions that either are taken automatically.  Sometimes cards just seem to disappear without any note of what happened in the log.  For example when a user plays Lookout an all three cards are the same the cards just disappear.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - I don't need this.  I'd rather play humans than bots.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles  - I don't need this.  I'd rather play humans than bots.
 3. A strong bot. - I don't need this.  I'd rather play humans than bots.
 4. Options for timed games - This sounds interesting.  I think there could be a timer per move, but not for the whole game.  You don't know if the game will end in 10 rounds or 20 rounds, so a timer could really bite you in the butt for a slower scoring game.
 5. Options for undo settings - I like this.  Option to give one or two free undos for mistakes.  But too many undos and it seems the person may be trying to cheat the system/game.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. - This sounds fun.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table - I don't need this.  I'll play with anyone.
 8. More translations (to what language?) - I don't need this.  I use English.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... - Animations moving cards from deck to hand, hand to play area, hand to trash, etc. would be nice but should be configurable.  If they get too annoying they should be able to be turned off.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... Yes.  If you are new to split piles, you don't know what the bottom card does until the top cards have been cleared.  Right click over split piles should show both top and bottom card from that kingdom pile.
Prince, duration cards, set aside cards should be displayed better.  You should not have to hover your mouse over your user name to see these. 
10. Option to hide the log - I like to see the log, but may want to toggle it off as well.  Option to hide autoscore would be great.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - I don't need this.  I play on the PC.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - I don't need this.  I play on the PC.
13. Downloadable game logs - I don't need this.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - Yes.  There should be a flag to click for chat abuse and extremely slow players.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - I don't need this.  I've been playing Dominion for years.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - I don't need this.  I've been playing Dominion for years.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Make It So on 15 January 2018, 03:09:34 AM
Hi there.  Long time Dominion subscriber; I owned all subscriptions on the previous digital version.  Username:  Make It So

Here are my thoughts:


 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots - I would absolutely use this frequently.  I actually only play against bots or in-person with the card game.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles - Sure this would help me sharpen my skills for real-life games.
 
3. A strong bot. - Same thoughts as my response to no. 2.

 4. Options for timed games - I would be in favor of a move-clock - like in chess.

 5. Options for undo settings - The undo option is for losers.  Let's get rid of it.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends. - Meh, I only play bots.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table - Same answer as no. 6.

 8. More translations (to what language?) - English is fine for me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... - I prefer simple with a game like this.  So fewer/faster animations are best.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ... - I would prefer of a better/constant visualization of cards in the trash, on an island, played with a prince, or durations (not have to click to view).  I would ditch the chat window default. 

10. Option to hide the log - Yes, this should not be the default view.  It is meaningless if the other visualizations take priority.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?) - This would do nothing for me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?) - I would use this - particularly if offline capabilities were available (for flights).

13. Downloadable game logs - Meaningless to me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...) - Bots play quickly!

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion - I think the game is pretty intuitive, and most people play in-person first, don't they?

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online. - This is definitely intuitive if you already know no. 15.

I would love my subscriptions back, but I understand your thirst for capitalism.

Username:  Make It So

Thanks!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: janigan on 15 January 2018, 03:16:14 AM
Thanks so much for the opportunity to offer Feedback. Here are my most concise responses:

 1) Campaigns against Bots: Yes! Not a day goes by that I don't miss the Campaigns! Please bring them back!
 2) A Bot with a setting for different play styles: Yes, I would find that a plus.
 3) A strong bot: Perhaps a choice for novice to most experienced players? Myself - yes
 4) Timed Games: Not for me personally
 5) Undo Settings option: Yes; I would use & appreciate
 6) Mini-Tournaments: Not for me personally
 7) Invite specific players to a table: Yes!
 8) More translations: Not for me, but would likely increase usage globally
 9) Better animation when cards played: I am currently satisfied, but better animation is always more enticing to players
10) Hide Log option: Not a personal need, but might be appreciated
11) Android App: No; not for me personally
12) iPhone App: No, but iPad would be fantastic!
13) Logs could be downloaded: Yes, but not a priority
14) Improved Moderation: Not a problem for me personally
15) Dominion Tutorial: Definitely for new players! Not needed personally
16) Online tutorial: Definitely for new players! And would be appreciated for new cards / expansions, as in the hard-copy enclosures.

And, THANK YOU for the extended subscription - it's awesome to be appreciated for being a longtime player / subscriber!
Janigan
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Naladina on 15 January 2018, 03:35:14 AM
My user name is Naladina

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
YES I would use this. Its my favorite part 
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles   Yes
 3. A strong bot.  Yes
 4. Options for timed games   No.. but option for turn time limit noting I mostly play bots and they move fast. 
 5. Options for undo settings   Nice but low on my list
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.   Yes  lower priority than 7
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table.  Yes though mostly play bots
 8. More translations (to what language?)  I do not need.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...  no issues with this so long as can see the log
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...  yes along with outstanding duration cards in play
10. Option to hide the log  .. I use the log routinely to see what happened. If can hide would want easily accessible toggle to get it back.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)   yes  would like to see for Kindle too which handles many android apps
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)  I would not use the iPhone app 
13. Downloadable game logs  Not a priority for me.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)   Do not play with real people often enough to have an opinion.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion   low on list.. lots of alternative sources for this
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.  How rules differ if any  and how interface works would be nice.. Be interesting to have access to order of precedence when cards get processed....

I like the options to be able to mix and match cards to set up the games.   

Thank you.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: StarShade on 15 January 2018, 03:37:27 AM
Some background - I mostly play with my parents or friends that I'm on Skype with. I rarely match against strangers online. I play 1-3 times a week. My username is the same as here, StarShade. As requested, I'll answer each in terms of how useful it would be to me specifically.


Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots.
Would not be useful for me.
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Might be interesting but not a priority
3. A strong bot.
Might be interesting but not a priority
4. Options for timed games
No interest
5. Options for undo settings
No interest
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
This could be nice, but probably wouldn't be as nice as some of the other suggestions
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, please! It's confusing and unintuitive trying to help new friends join compared to the previous version.
8. More translations (to what language?)
No interest
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
See next answer
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
In general, visual animations and intuitive layout is an area that I think could use a lot of improvement and polish. When things happen automatically or in response to other cards, my parents get confused. It might be helpful rather than splitting the prompts/choices in the log, buttons that appear to the side, and the cards themselves if it showed the causing card and the choices (with extra information in tooltips or hidden under a more info button) together in the middle of the view. The website also doesn't seem to work very well with varying resolutions. I don't always have it full screen and my dad has a much narrower monitor than most, which can cause things to be cut off. This is the biggest priority for me.

10. Option to hide the log
Not a priority, but could help clean up the UI
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No interest
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
No interest
13. Downloadable game logs
Nice to have but not a priority
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
No interest
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
This could be useful, it's hard to describe stuff without seeing their screen.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Similarly to 15, this is hard to describe over Skype without seeing their screen. This could be helped with a more intuitive interface though.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: stineplaysguitar on 15 January 2018, 04:06:04 AM
My username is Stineplaysguitar

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 -As long as campaign mode is on the online version, I don't need an offline client.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
-This would be really cool but it is not something I need.
 3. A strong bot.
-Not something I need
 4. Options for timed games
-If anything I would like there to be a more strict time limit per turn for players.
 5. Options for undo settings
-Get rid of the undo option.  I think it's to lenient.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
-This would be cool but not something I need.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
-I didn't realize this feature was missing from this version, yes that would be very good to have.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
-Not applicable to me.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
-I'm fine with basic animations, but I think the sound effects are more important when those actions are placed (gained,bought, played)
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
-Improvements could be made but I am not sure how exactly.
10. Option to hide the log
-Yes or make the log prettier.  The bold colors and font are a bit garish.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
-Would love this.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
-Would love this.
13. Downloadable game logs
-Not necessary for me.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
-Slowplayer reporting would be nice but I would be afraid of it being abused with people who just want to flag other accounts.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
-Not applicable to me.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
-Not applicable to me.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: trader joe on 15 January 2018, 04:19:47 AM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

My username is Trader Joe

Thanks for this. I'd really like to see an offline version with some decent bots.

1. Campaigns get boring for me.
2. YEs, different play styles or difficulty settings or search depth for decisions.
3. YEs, strength/ difficulty settings or search depth for decisions.
4. Not important.
5. Why not, should be easy to implement.
6. Sounds intriguing.
7. Not sure if useful but maybe.
8. Not for me.
9. Seems good enough.
10. Not for me.
11. Not for me.
12. Not for me.
13. Not for me.
14. Not sure if useful but maybe.
15. Not sure if useful
16. Maybe better help where selections are being made rather than a separate tutorial. Some options aren't intuitive, so maybe can provide more help/ clarifications for them.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Sir Dfgfdfdfggf on 15 January 2018, 06:04:19 AM
I had the lifetime subscription on making fun as well. I think it worked out to about $100 for a 6 month subscription for me.

Of all the options listed, the only one that stood out for me was some sort of rules for undo - I'm not sure how you could codify and regulate undo settings, but it would be cool to have something there. Maybe automatically permitting undos when no new information has been gained, or an option to filter for or against undo-unfriendly people.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Skyhigh2010 on 15 January 2018, 06:30:05 AM
UserID: skyhigh2010

Most of my use of Dominion Online has been playing against bots.  Though I did originally play through the campaigns.  General comments at end after responding to feature list.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

High priority for me.  Especially an app for iOS (iPad in particular).

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Somewhat interesting idea.

 3. A strong bot.

I assume that is similar to the above.

 4. Options for timed games

No interest.

 5. Options for undo settings

I really appreciate having an undo setting.  I have usually been okay with the assumption that Undo reverts my last action.  However, I would appreciate an option to Undo more than 1 action (e.g., reverting BOTH the selection of the action card & the actual action in 1 step rather than 2 steps).

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

No interest.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

No interest.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

No interest.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

No interest.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Not sure.  Don't think I have enough experience here.

10. Option to hide the log

No interest.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Possible interest.  Though I can't quite imagine how easy it would be to capture on the small screen of a phone.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

iPad app -- yes.  Most of my gameplay is using iPad-mini.  Though sometimes I'll use a PC.

13. Downloadable game logs

No interest.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

No interest.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Hard to comment as I know how.

Other comments:
I sometimes want to study cards while other players are playing but the animation of the other player activity gets in the way.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: filbert66 on 15 January 2018, 08:02:21 AM
Hi Stef, thanks for the offer. I would have appreciated a notice when my (free) subscription ended. I thought something had broken in the game when it stopped giving my any kingdoms but classic.

Among the points you listed, I would like, prioritized in this order:
3. A strong bot. I like fast games, not waiting on random players. And sometimes I have to get up and don't like to make other people wait.
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots. Agreed that need stronger bots before this is worth delivering. I fly a lot and this would be nice.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table -- or at least only my "friends". I feel bad kicking people who join my table.

I've noticed nice improvements made to the game over time. Good work and keep it up. I think that is important given the changing rules and new kingdoms. I understand your desire to have subscriptions to pay for that and will probably pay for more kingdoms soon.

Filbert66
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Polymorph on 15 January 2018, 08:29:45 AM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
The campaigns on MF were interesting; if the kingdom choices are good then a campaign would be fun.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
It would be nice to be able to practice different strategies against a different type of bot to see how strategies compete directly.
 3. A strong bot.
I probably would not play a strong bot because I mostly play vs humans.
 4. Options for timed games
Timed games would depend on time allocated, if a time bank were used this would be fun.
 5. Options for undo settings
 More undo settings would be nice such as only undo something that did not give the player knowledge
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
If you could run multiple tables in a tournament with 1 set of cards I would definitely try them.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This would help me so I do not have to kick people waiting for specific players to join.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 N/A to me
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I don't care much about the animations if its playable.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
You should at least be able to read the effect of the second card in the split piles; I don't care about the rest its generally clear but could be improved.
10. Option to hide the log
N/A
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
N/A
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
iPhone app with the same account would be amazing
13. Downloadable game logs
Linkable logs would be nice
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Could be nice but N/A to me
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Yes this would help get friends into the game
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Same as above would help get friends into the game

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ankheg on 15 January 2018, 09:14:29 AM
I'm ankheg on the client. ;)


 Hi,I'm ankheg on the dominion online.
 I recently played for the first time but it is a wonderful application. I am looking forward to it. Because it is not used to
 English, the expression may be funny part.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 I will play even with quality like the previous goko dominion. Because I prefer offline AI matches.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 It is very interesting, but if the time is going to be late, I am satisfied even at present.

 3. A strong bot.
 I do not need it I think that it is strong enough as it is now.
 
 4. Options for timed games
 I want it. Easy to play without thinking about the opponent when the time is decided.
 
 5. Options for undo settings
 unnecessary. The match-up time gets longer.
 
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 It does not need much. I am mainly playing with solo play.
 
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 I want it. It makes it easier to invite distant friends to the game.
 
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 Because I am Japanese, I am happy to have Japanese.
 
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
 Interesting, but it is not necessary if the behavior slows down.
 
 10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
 I am not familiar with this issue.

 11. Option to hide the log
 I am satisfied with the current situation.
 
 12. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
 I do not need it because it only plays on a personal computer.
 However, since I have android, I may play if I feel like it.
 
 13. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
 Same as 12
 
 14. Downloadable game logs
 Priority is low, but I'm glad
 
 15. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
 I do not think that it is particularly necessary.
 
 16. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
 I do not need it, but it makes it easier to recruit new users.
 
 17. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
 I think that it is unnecessary because I think that I can play intuitively if I know Dominion.
 
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Vali1987 on 15 January 2018, 09:32:06 AM
Hy, here my feedback:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
That would be really great, because I often have no connection to a hotspot.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Its nice, but not really important for me. So it would be great to great other things before.
 3. A strong bot.
The same like 2.
 4. Options for timed games
People here play often fast, and the others I can kick, so its ok, how it is now.
 5. Options for undo settings
I dont like the undo option, because I play a real game we also dont allow it.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Nice, but I like tournaments for not only friends.. like the championship. Would be great if there is a monthly or weekly tournament
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
For me no problem if there is no option. But I dont like it if I go to a table and will be kicked because they wait for a friend.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
For me german and english are ok
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Its ok like it is
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Its ok like it is
10. Option to hide the log
Not my wish ;-)
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
REALLY GREAT
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I dont have Iphone
13. Downloadable game logs
I dont need that
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Would be nice but often the player only leave, then a moderation dont make sense
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Maybe nice for new users
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I didnt need that, it was clear how to play.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Dumbassador on 15 January 2018, 09:54:49 AM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
    Since i am always online i do not really need an offline client.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
    Would be alright, but i would prefer a bot which adapts his play style according to the setup.
 3. A strong bot.
    The stronger, the better.
 4. Options for timed games
    An Option for timed turns would be nice - to prevent from slowplaying. Timed games not so much.
 5. Options for undo settings
    I would like those.
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
    Kinda cool, i don't need that though.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
    Would be nice.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
    Not needed here. English should be enough.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
    Gameplay before optics here. I liked the isotropic implementation - simple but highly functional.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
    Same as 9. Important is that i always know what i am doing to prevent misclicks.
10.1. Option to hide the log
    Not needed.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
    I would use it.
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
    No Apple here.
13. Downloadable game logs
    Not needed.
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
    I use it too marginalyy to need that.
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
    Not for me, but sure nice for newcomers.
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
    Same as above.

Thank you for caring and for this offer,
greets,
Dumbassador
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: Torvatn on 15 January 2018, 10:06:48 AM
Username: Torvatn

English is not my native language, so i apologize for errors. I don't need translation to my language  (Norwegian) though, as i always play the card game in English anyway.

I have already renewed my subscription and payed for it (before I saw this), but anyway, there are two things that I really want, and that is you point nr  9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/... and
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

The thing is, I sometimes don't see what is happening. For instance, I use a lookout, and there are 3 coppers. Then the game automatically trash one, discards one and keeps one. But the point is, i don't see it, except in the log! Even if it is the only logical thing that can be done, I actually want to see it happening! I have to read the log to find out what it was, and that is irritating. same thing with card that are discarded one way or the other, I want to see them!! And yes, I want to always be able to see  archive/crypt content.

Another thing: with Nocturne, I don't know the cards so well, as i havn't play it in a real card game like the others. So when i get an Envious (for instance, it is just an example), I actually want to know what that is, but that is not possible before it is my turn. It is not possible, at least i havn't found a way. It says "You get an envious" but no explanation. I would want one!

Anne

Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: percysnoodle on 15 January 2018, 10:49:21 AM
Username: Percysnoodle

I've really enjoyed this version of Dominion Online.  Thanks for making it!  I especially enjoyed the Nocturne previews - thank you for those.

To answer your specific questions:

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1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.

I'm not so fussed about offline play or play against bots.  I'm more interested in asynchronous play with friends, though I do appreciate that that's a very difficult thing to reconcile with some aspects of Dominion (esp. reactions) and with Undo.

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4. Options for timed games

Not fussed.

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5. Options for undo settings

Not sure what the options would be.  Something like "Automatically grant if no information revealed" might be handy.

One thing I found which isn't directly undo-related, but which causes me to request undo more than I'd like, is that "Autoplay Treasures" plays coppers even when it stops the player from buying Grand Market.  It would be great if it could detect when this would happen and only automatically play your other treasures.

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6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Sounds interesting but I can't see myself using it.

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7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Yes please.

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8. More translations (to what language?)

As a native English speaker I wouldn't be using these, but I'd certainly approve of them happening.

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9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Meh - the existing ones are fine.

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10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

Yes please.

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10. Option to hide the log

No thanks.

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11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Not fussed.

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12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Yes please.  (can you tell what phone I have?  ;) )

In particular, on the iPhone, I find the game almost unplayable in portrait (which I don't mind) but in landscape I find that whenever I try to buy a Province or a Gold I instead end up summoning the browser's toolbar.  So even a wrapper app that just loaded the website without toolbars and disallowed portrait orientations would be an improvement.

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13. Downloadable game logs

I wouldn't use these myself, but I do sometimes see analysis on DSF which might benefit from this feature.

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14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I haven't had a problem here, but definitely one to keep an eye on.

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15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Not fussed.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: rimona on 15 January 2018, 01:21:57 PM
Hi.

My game user name is rimona. Here are my answers:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, I'm playing mainly against bots or specific friends. This would be right for me.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Don't care.

 3. A strong bot.
Yes. Some AI decisions are too obvious. Some victories way too high.

 4. Options for timed games
Useful specifically for online games. They could become more attractive that way.

 5. Options for undo settings
I would disable undo completely.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Yes, as said above: I prefer games against AI and against friends.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, this would go well with 6.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Don't care.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Don't care.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, this is really missing.

10. Option to hide the log
This would be good for playing on a tablet. Now I'm only playing on my PC.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes, that would be great.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't own an iPhone but I'd think it would be just as important as the Android version.

13. Downloadable game logs
It would be nice to analyze what happened after a game is over.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Don't care.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Does not apply to me but maybe could get newbies interested. This should come along with a free or trial version of the game.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Tutorial would be good for either version.

Thanks,
-rimona
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jurassicsnark on 15 January 2018, 01:54:57 PM
username is jurassicsnark.
Thanks for asking, Stef. I have to say that the current incarnation is by far the best one since Isotropic — thank you for that.
As for your question, I will group into 5 priority categories: highest, high, medium, low, none

/ HIGHEST
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots — I travel constantly and would love to be able to play offline when I'm stuck on planes for hours.

/ HIGH
 3. A strong bot. — I guess this depends on your definition of "strong." I'd be happy with a bot who can play the cards right — for instance, currently the bot will buy Banks, but will not play them after other coins, etc...
7. Option to invite specific players to your table — I'd really like to be able to play with my friends.

/ MEDIUM
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

/ LOW
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

/ NONE
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 8. More translations (to what language?)
10. Option to hide the log — I will never hide the log.
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: ROGAVKA on 15 January 2018, 04:31:45 PM
Hi,

thanks for great year of online Dominion, hope many others to come.

Username is ROGAVKA. My thoughts on features with personal priorities.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Really have no interest in this one. Lowest priority for me.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

I guess just a strong bot would be fine. I don't think many play styles may be implemented easily; and I don't think they would be competitive on many boards.
Of course, I see how it's easier to implement than a strong bot. If a strong bot isn't viable option, playstyle bots are better than one weak bot we have now.
Priority low.

 3. A strong bot.

Now and then after being crushed, I like to replay a board, and rectify some mistakes. Of course I'd like the best possible bot here. This is really my only use for bot, so priority medium.

 4. Options for timed games

I don't think it's a solution to slowplay (if intended). I wouldn't play a timed game (i mean, more timed than now), so lowest priority anyway.

 5. Options for undo settings

Fast and easy way to request multiple undos would be very nice - it's not nice to realize that before I send undo request my opponent will be in the middle of their turn. Priority medium.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Don't think I'll ever find a use for this one. Low priority.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

I think that once me and my friend are online it's pretty easy to arrange the game now. While one of us is offline this option won't help obviously. Lowest priority.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Already got Russian, so lowest priority I guess. Must note here, that I've recently accidentally took a look at Russian translation and i believe it can be improved significantly, but I really don't think translating online boardgames to non-english languages is essential.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

Pff, don't care really. Lowest priority.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

I think the full text of every card-shaped thing used in the game should be easily obtained via interface at any time. See split piles, castles+knights (don't remember how right-click on them is implemented now), all boons, all hexes etc. I believe the same is true for every bit of information i can get by rules, including archive/crypt/price etc.
Now I'm not sure all of the following belongs here, but i can't find more suitable paragraph.
I've read of issues, like when it's not clear which card you're working with in clean-up phase. I've never ran into such problems, but I would be frustrated to encounter one. I think these things should be properly visualized.
I really think that all actions via clicking in log (tunnel, urchin etc many of them) should be replaced with something else. It's a matter of clarity, usability and good taste. I also think that one shouldn't mouseover username to get any information about durations, set-aside cards et cetera. It's very unclear that it's the only correct way to do this.

All of these seem the highest priority for me.

10. Option to hide the log

Would never use it, lowest priority.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

An app would be nice. Medium priority.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Despise everything apple-shaped, lowest priority.

13. Downloadable game logs

Easier log parsing may appear useful for me one day, but i've never wished for it so far. Low priority.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Hanging around 56-57 for last months I haven't encountered slowplayers for a while. Abusive language and luck-complaints just make me smile. But anyway, if I ever encounter a slowplayer I want to be 100% sure that a couple of screenshots and report to mod would be enough to ban him. If this is how the system works now, I'm fine, otherwise high priority.

15/16.

You asked only about personal wishes, so I don't need these and priority is lowest. However, I really think that these should be there for new players and it's high priority for the platform itself.

As you may notice, I'm mostly fine with the platform as it is. Good luck!
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: johnwhy on 15 January 2018, 04:33:29 PM
Username is johnwhy

Here are my wishes, from most important to less. I didn't mention the other points : not important or not relevant to me.
 
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
That's my number one wish, since I'm enjoying to play against bot(s) while traveling.
 
2.3. A stronger bot with a setting for different play styles
Actually, a bot able to change play style during a game would be better.

10. Option to hide the log
Would appreciate that option and not to have to click in the log to choose the order of actions when starting a turn (Box in the main window)

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
All piles, reserve, effects or duration card should appear in the main window, between turns, and so on.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Needed. It's always odd to kick a player you don't know while waiting for your regular partners.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
French would be welcomed...

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
My last wish on the list, with the translation in french : could be welcome for newbies, when they are not in front of you around the table !
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: sesame panda on 15 January 2018, 04:42:09 PM
Overall, I like this client a lot. Username is sesame panda.

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Options I would like to see and should be easy to implement:

 4. Options for timed games
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
-- Just the slow players part. Maybe an option to filter for only players that play faster, or a matchmaking system that groups people of similar playing speed together? I don't encounter slow players too often but I find them annoying.

Options I would like to see:

As a collection,
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.
12. iPhone app

I think if all of these were present then I would download the app and play when I'm away from wifi. However, the campaign/offline would only be interesting if the bots are sufficiently challenging. For me (rank score ~50), that will be harder, and it might not be worth the time to implement.

Re: the strong bot, do you guys know about Provincial? This is going to be my most "serious" recommendation:

https://graphics.stanford.edu/~mdfisher/projects.html

I know of the author of this work from college. This AI is fairly strong, but it has to be pretrained on the kingdom. It might be good in a "kingdom of the day" type challenge, or might especially be good for the campaigns. The AI only comes in on the buy priorities, I think its play rules are straightforward, so it's mostly relegated to big money type strategies, which admittedly are weaker these days. It would effectively force you into going for stronger engines. I don't know what the reuse/restrictions/licensing would be like, but the author is obviously a Dominion fan so maybe you can find some common interests.

Might be interesting:

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
13. Downloadable game logs

Not important to me personally:

 5. Options for undo settings
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
 8. More translations (to what language?)
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Option to hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: synitiro on 15 January 2018, 05:07:07 PM
Here are some features we have on our wishlist; please let me know if you would appreciate/use them:
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I would not use

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles


I will probably use it

 3. A strong bot.

I will probably use it

 4. Options for timed games

Use

 5. Options for undo settings

I will probably use it

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

I would not use

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Use

 8. More translations (to what language?)

Certainly Use (to Japanese)


 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...


I will probably use it

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

I will probably use it

10. Option to hide the log

I will probably use it

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

I will probably use it

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

not use

13. Downloadable game logs

Certainly use

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

I will probably use it

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

I will probably use it

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

I will probably use it
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: majiponi on 15 January 2018, 05:28:15 PM
This is the translation of a post in Japanese subthread.

ストーリーモードは作って欲しいです。
スマートフォンで出来るようにして下さい。
分割のカードや城カード等の一番上以外も見れるようにして下さい。
あとBGMや効果音なども付けて欲しいです。
壁画とかを増やしてほしい、きれいな景色とかの壁画が選びたいです。
ドミニオンオンラインのチュートリアルが無いと細かい設定が
分からないので是非作ってください。

1. I wanna play Story Mode.
11.12. Please let me play on Smartphones.
10. Let me check a card other than what is on top of piles.
17. Background musics and more sound effects are welcomed.
18. More background pictures. I want to choose beautiful scenery one.

16. Please make an Online tutorial so that I can switch on/off specific options I cannot understand well.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: SaintO on 15 January 2018, 05:57:52 PM
 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I'm honestly not interested at this point in playing campaigns against bots. I very much like engaging another person.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
See #1

 3. A strong bot.
See #1

 4. Options for timed games
Intriguing. If this was implemented, I'd like the option of a "fast turn" timer rather than a "fast game" timer. Encouraging fast (if perhaps suboptimal) play offers a good challenge in the early game and helps keep things moving/end the game quickly. Smooth, rapid cycling through games is one of the aspects I like most about the current implementation.

 5. Options for undo settings
I'd like to see a "auto undo approval" for non "+ x card" or "look at" abilities as misclicks are often and would be magnified with the above "fast turn" play mode, if enabled.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Sounds interesting. I could see this helping to get some of my friends to play (who don't currently) but only if subscriptions were only necessary for one player at the table. Otherwise I don't see them getting into the online implementation.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Yes, it's very frustrating right now to try and set up tables when two (or more) specific people are trying to get a game together.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
I'm a stupid American who only speaks English fluently, so this wouldn't provide me any real benefit.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I'd most likely end up turning them off.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
I think anything that helps better (faster/easier/clearer) visualize the game state is a worthwhile endeavor. Some of the mixed effects right now that require clicking on a small line in the game log vs. having a pop up to the right side is annoying, more so because of the inconsistency. The pop up buttons (e.g. Courtier) are clear and obvious so if you can implement them across the board for all cards (e.g. duration cards), that would be awesome.

10. Option to hide the log

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I'm an iOS user.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I'd be very interested to see how well this could work on an iPhone 7 screen. I'm concerned it'd be very crowded, but maybe it's doable.

13. Downloadable game logs
I could see me getting interested in this but it's not a huge priority to me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Chat abuse is something I've been lucky enough to not have to deal with very much (<5 times I think in hundreds of games), but that's pretty much an auto-ban for me if someone doesn't have the basic decency to be civil. I will state that it may be worthwhile to have some clearly called out "table etiquette" guidelines as I found out that apparently I'm occasionally making a faux pas without intent. Specifically, at least according to one decently ranked opponent (60+) I played, it's rude to admit almost certain defeat via "gg" but continue to play out the game.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I don't need it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I don't need it.
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: jsh on 15 January 2018, 07:05:45 PM
Username is johnwhy

Here are my wishes, from most important to less. I didn't mention the other points : not important or not relevant to me.
 
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
That's my number one wish, since I'm enjoying to play against bot(s) while traveling.
 
2.3. A stronger bot with a setting for different play styles
Actually, a bot able to change play style during a game would be better.

10. Option to hide the log
Would appreciate that option and not to have to click in the log to choose the order of actions when starting a turn (Box in the main window)

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
All piles, reserve, effects or duration card should appear in the main window, between turns, and so on.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Needed. It's always odd to kick a player you don't know while waiting for your regular partners.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
French would be welcomed...

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
My last wish on the list, with the translation in french : could be welcome for newbies, when they are not in front of you around the table !

French is coming soon. (Also traditional Chinese)
Title: Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
Post by: DemonGenius on 15 January 2018, 07:24:20 PM
Username: DemonGenius
Location: Canada