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Title: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: themystic111 on 17 June 2018, 08:56:42 AM
I just want to speak on the topic of users resigning from games when they realize they're loosing. It is SO frustrating and disincentives players from improving their ratings. Thoughts?

>:(
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: yed on 17 June 2018, 12:09:49 PM
It is ok to resign 2 player game when you don't have a chance to win.
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: Stef on 17 June 2018, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: themystic111 on 17 June 2018, 08:56:42 AM
I just want to speak on the topic of users resigning from games when they realize they're loosing. It is SO frustrating and disincentives players from improving their ratings. Thoughts?

>:(

I also resign when I think I'm lost. In fact, I consider it an insult to my opponent if I play on in such cases.

Can you explain your point of view?
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: markus on 17 June 2018, 09:15:10 PM
Also to clarify: there's nothing better that can happen to your rating than your opponent reisgning. (With 2 players it counts the same as a normal win. With 3 players it counts roughly as if you'd ended up first.)
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: lsmsrbls on 17 June 2018, 10:45:35 PM
I think it's polite to resign when losing.  It allows another game to start and is considerate of your opponent's time.
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: santamonica811 on 19 June 2018, 03:50:20 AM
My guess is that the OP is a beginning player (beginning re online Dominion, that is).  When I first started playing online, I also did not understand people resigning against me.  Took a few weeks for me to get the point. 

I still believe that it's good manners to spend 10 seconds, typing, "GG.  Another one?" Or 3 seconds typing "GG" if you want to resign and leave/find a new opponent.  But that's a different subject, I guess.
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: blamelewis on 19 June 2018, 12:04:42 PM
I second what Josh says - a quick "you've got this one, gg" or some such in the chat would go a long way to helping players understand why an opponent resigns...

I don't mind when someone resigns - not least as it improves my ratings, although it feels unearned when the game hasn't begun yet! This happens quite often and I reckon it's because players are seeing a lot of unfamiliar cards and don't want to play against them...

Best
Tim
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: LastFootnote on 19 June 2018, 08:43:30 PM
I understand the OP. I play Dominion because I enjoy playing Dominion, not to increase my rank. It can be frustrating when an opponent abruptly resigns. I wanted to see how my deck played out.

I'm not saying resigning shouldn't be an option, just stating my feelings. Talking about resigning, as josh suggests, goes a long way. I wish more people did it.
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: dane on 19 June 2018, 11:00:25 PM
Which all goes to show that some people like opponents to resign while others don't.  A long time ago I suggested that there should be an option "Offer to resign" so that a player who was willing to resign or to play on could do whichever was preferred by the opponent.
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: jonts on 20 June 2018, 12:16:17 AM
The option to continue playing with the bot already exists, which seems to solve many of these issues.
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: VARMENDRION on 12 July 2018, 02:08:02 AM
I believe that it is just fair to resign if you realize you have lost. I handle it like this and believe most should:

If I lose, but the enemy is likely to finish the game within 1 or 2 minutes, I'll give him the satisfaction of ending the game and will just play quickly.

If I lose, but it will take some time (let's say you have 7 curses, while the enemy is done trashing, but there is no extra buy and the game will at least go another 8 rounds) I'll type "gg" and resign and usually am up for the challenge of a rematch.

If I can win quickly, I'll end as fast as possible to not make the enemy suffer through the loss. I mean those situations, where you are certain to win (let's say we had curses and another stack is bought out and I have 16 and instead of getting 2 provinces, I'll just buy out the third stack to sack the win).

If I didn't end this way, I'd totally understand if my enemy resigns and doesn't want a rematch because I'd consider making him suffer as unmannered. The same goes vice versa.
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: DominionTroll on 17 July 2018, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: VARMENDRION on 12 July 2018, 02:08:02 AM
If I lose, but the enemy is likely to finish the game within 1 or 2 minutes, I'll give him the satisfaction of ending the game and will just play quickly.
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If I can win quickly, I'll end as fast as possible to not make the enemy suffer through the loss. I mean those situations, where you are certain to win (let's say we had curses and another stack is bought out and I have 16 and instead of getting 2 provinces, I'll just buy out the third stack to sack the win).

You have no "enemies" in Dominion. Just friends that are your opponents.
Title: Re: Coward Gaming Culture - Resigning When Loosing
Post by: Sqril on 21 July 2018, 06:13:10 PM
I just had this happen - a higher ranked player first said I was playing too slowly and it was boring.  I wasn't playing particularly slowly and told them they could resign.

And then right when I bought the last province and would have won - they resigned. Does this affect my oh-so-important ranking? Hehehe - I don't really care so much - rankings are fun but are not the sole reason I play (I'm barely 40 most days).

And then they blacklisted me.  That's fine - their prerogative.  I did likewise.

But, I think this is super crappy behavior.  It's rude and unsportsmanlike and it's people like this who make this online community not so friendly sometimes. 

Fortunately, most players aren't like this!!