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Dominion => Feature Requests => Topic started by: Trumplestiltskin on 27 March 2020, 05:52:02 PM

Title: Not enough Ways?
Post by: Trumplestiltskin on 27 March 2020, 05:52:02 PM
Ways don't appear to be put into kingdoms very often, even with the Menagerie-heavy option.  I'm estimating only seeing a Way in about 1/6 games.

Some ways, like Owl, Frog, and Butterfly, I haven't seen at all despite playing a LOT of games.  Other Ways I have seen several times.

Are all the Ways programmed?  And why are they so seemingly infrequent compared to Events and Landmarks?
Title: Re: Not enough Ways?
Post by: Ingix on 27 March 2020, 06:22:12 PM
All the Ways are programmed. The official recommendation is to have max 1 Way per game, and this recommendation is maintained for all automatch games. So while you can have games with say 2 Events this way, you'll never see 2 Ways from this.

In addition, even if you would get 1 random Way each game, the expected number of games until you've seen them all is almost 72.
Title: Re: Not enough Ways?
Post by: Trumplestiltskin on 27 March 2020, 10:17:09 PM
Thank you for the reply.  In what % of Menagerie-heavy games should we expect to see a Way?
Title: Re: Not enough Ways?
Post by: Ingix on 28 March 2020, 12:37:19 AM
Back of the envelope says 75%.
Title: Re: Not enough Ways?
Post by: Ingix on 28 March 2020, 10:59:17 AM
You were right, Trumplestiltskin!

Owl, Frog, and Butterfly didn't show up randomly on "normal games" (those whithout "Extra Menagerie"). Those were the last 3 implemented, so I guess they were not included in some list that deals with which cards can be chosen.

Stef has corrected this, the change will probably deploy in the near future.
Title: Re: Not enough Ways?
Post by: Trumplestiltskin on 30 March 2020, 02:49:34 AM
I saw Butterfly for the first time- Thank you!!