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Dominion => Feature Requests => Topic started by: davogotland on 03 April 2020, 01:42:25 AM

Title: option for ordering starting deck
Post by: davogotland on 03 April 2020, 01:42:25 AM
more than a few games give unreasonably big advantages to some starting decks, for example 5/2 copper split. on isotropic there used to be an option to force everyone to get 3/4-start, but with "heirlooms" that seems weird.

when i play afk i prefer using this rule. especially when playing with skilled players. it works really well.

(i saw this being requested specifically for solo games about 4 months ago. that thread had 0 replies, and when i clicked "reply" it said "this post is 120 days old, are you sure you want to reply in it and not just start a new thread all together?" so here i am)
Title: Re: option for ordering starting deck
Post by: Ingix on 03 April 2020, 07:42:12 AM
I can't find the exact post, but Donald X., the game's creator, is strongly against taking such equalizing changes. There is luck in the game, undeniably, but that isn't limited to your starting hand. Bottemdecking one of your cards bought before your first shuffle is frustrating as well, which has an even higher likelyhood than a 2/5 opening.

In the end, the luck should even out. Usually it does, but most people are much more prone to remember their bad luck (3/4 when opponent had 2/5 and a Junker at 5 in the Kingdom) that their good luck (the other way around).
Title: Re: option for ordering starting deck
Post by: davogotland on 06 April 2020, 11:43:54 PM
Quote from: Ingix on 03 April 2020, 07:42:12 AM
I can't find the exact post, but Donald X., the game's creator, is strongly against taking such equalizing changes.

that's a bit unexpected i must say, since it was an option on isotropic, and (as i understood it) vaccarino worked closely with the guy who created that implementation.

i'd really like to read that statement you're referring to. i've tried finding it, but without luck.
Title: Re: option for ordering starting deck
Post by: crlundy on 10 April 2020, 12:31:36 AM
Here is his response to a similar feature request, which may have the info you're looking for: http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=1398.msg4467#msg4467
Title: Re: option for ordering starting deck
Post by: davogotland on 18 April 2020, 02:41:53 AM
Quote from: crlundy on 10 April 2020, 12:31:36 AM
Here is his response to a similar feature request, which may have the info you're looking for: http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=1398.msg4467#msg4467

thanks! an interesting read. i guess something about seeing that implementation on isotropic must have really turned him off from it.