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Dominion => General Discussion => Topic started by: vic323 on 19 April 2022, 10:49:05 PM

Title: Weird interactions with extra coffers
Post by: vic323 on 19 April 2022, 10:49:05 PM
It's not a bug per se, but now that coffers can be spent more often (I think previously, it was just at the beginning of the buy phase?), there can be a situation where the UI prompts you do something that requires a certain amount of coins, and you don't have that many coins but you do have that many coffers.

For example, let's say I have 6 coins and 2 coffers, and a Wine Merchant on my tavern mat. I buy a gold for 6 coins so now I have 0 coins and 2 coffers. The "discard Wine Merchant from tavern mat" prompt comes up. I click it, so a coffers prompt comes up. If I choose "continue," without paying extra coffers, the turn ends and the Wine Merchant is not discarded (which is correct, since there weren't 2 coins left over).

Another example is if I buy a Doctor, using up all of my coins, but I have any number of coffers. The UI will ask if I want to overpay, so I choose overpay, then it prompts me to spend coffers. If I choose "continue" without paying extra coffers, then the turn ends.

I guess it's just weird where the UI can prompt me to do something, but then the coffers prompt comes up after, when I needed those coffers spent to do the thing in the first prompt. I can spend the coffers and do the thing, so technically everything works correctly, but I think it can be misleading and/or confusing.
Title: Re: Weird interactions with extra coffers
Post by: Ingix on 20 April 2022, 08:32:43 AM
Yes, the new Coffers rule makes things a bit more complicated in some cases. Generally, if you play IRL, you just spend Coffers before discarding your Wine Merchant from the Tavern mat. In a computer game with very strict timing rules like Dominion, it's hard to change the flow of potential actions such that to always allow players these "any time" actions.

So the general idea is to allow them any time it matters, like when you need $ at unusual times, like the Wine Merchant discard or for overpay or just before your Fortune doubles you $.