Quote from: Madadri on 30 April 2018, 03:17:17 AM
I came here to report someone. I already blacklisted them, but feel more is needed. Where do I report?
Alas the trend is that bullies are free to behave the way they want.
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I came here to report someone. I already blacklisted them, but feel more is needed. Where do I report?
Quote from: twasa on 24 April 2018, 08:14:58 PM
dextrapunch, your argument almost boils down to: https://xkcd.com/386/.
It looks like AdamH also assumes english is the only language of games like Dominion. No. It has been translated in other languages online and irl. If there were to be a list of bad words, would that include German, French, Norwegian, Dutch etc, and the 13 official languages in my country? I've been insulted in languages other than English, only realising I've been insulted by using google translate.
However imperfect the reporting mechanism is, it is probably the best one can do against the Martin Gee type of trolls. They are determined to ruin your day and delight at escaping any attempt to prevent them.
Blacklist and move on.
Quote from: AdamH on 23 April 2018, 07:59:00 PM
Having a rule that isn't well-defined is, in practice, the same as not having a rule at all. It seems difficult to define what "good behavior" in the chat would be, but I suppose you could do it. Either way, it's not defined right now. You probably need a dirty word list.
Having a rule that isn't enforced is also pretty much the same as not having the rule at all. It's probably tough to enforce this rule without having the client do it for you (censoring the chat when a dirty word is detected, then sending a report after a certain threshold to the moderators, for example) but it certainly isn't being enforced now.
...and having rules that aren't well-defined and aren't enforced is going to lead to unhappy people and unhelpful discussions about it. I would recommend either defining and enforcing the rule or not having it at all.
Realistically, I think the option to choose is the option of not having the rule because that's much easier and this is the internet, but that's just my opinion.
Quote from: Rabid on 23 April 2018, 05:14:54 PM
dextrapunch I find your forum post to be insulting.
Should you be punished?
Quote from: Stef on 23 April 2018, 02:31:14 PMQuote from: dextrapunch on 23 April 2018, 01:55:09 PMQuote from: jsh on 22 April 2018, 11:10:35 PMQuote from: dextrapunch on 22 April 2018, 07:31:28 PM
Ok, that's not his job. But that would be mods' one.
Either mods declare that insulting is allowed, or mods ban all people that do not abide strictly to the rules.
The two cannot exist simultaneously.
I don't have a system or the time to know about every single instance of this. I'm a volunteer. Right now, users can simply blacklist people they don't want to play with. It isn't a perfect system but the system does work. My advice is not to worry about awful people being awful to others when you can put them in your personal blacklist and never see them again.
Well, this actually means you wash your hands of it.
Being paid or not is not a good reason to refuse to bear a responsability.
Or, easier, you are communicating that, yes, users are able to cuss or use bad words, or insult, and they will stay on unbanned, the worst case scenario is they lose the chance to face again that one player.
But if I was to insult someone, not playing against him anymore would be the lesser of my problems. Probably I would blacklist myself that user first, because if I am lead to insult someone, surely I won't like playing again with him.
That said, the villain wins in this scenario. Which I don't like much. Moreover considering people is PAYING ACTUAL MONEY to play this game. And when one pays, one demands.
Please leave jsh alone. He is doing a great job, I'm grateful for whatever he does. He is dealing with plenty of shit already as a mod.
The fact that not everyone violating a rule gets immediately banned or punished in some way does not imply the rules doesn't exist, nor does that make the system invalid. In fact, that is what makes the system work as a whole. There are plenty of examples of countries that tried to enforce every rule on all its citizens. I wouldn't want to live in one.
There is no villain 'winning' in this scenario. People yelling in chat are generally speaking very frustrated individuals with more problems IRL then you are willing to imagine. I don't envy them. Yes there is a line they can cross and then they get banned.
My advice to you, assuming you're one of the nice people that sometimes encounter a frustrated individual, is to try to spend as little time with them as possible. Blacklist & move on works very well for that. Any time you spend on this forum or anywhere else typing up some report is only adding to your own frustration. If they really cross a line you can report and who knows maybe they get banned. But another persons pain or punishment will never make you truly happy. And maybe before you speak about bearing responsibility and people paying actual money you should reevaluate your own situation.
In the end this is the internet and you'll sometimes encounter someone you'd rather not. Speaking from my personal experience, the dominion community is doing way better then the average community out there. Yesterday I played ~30 games against ~20 different opponents without a single incident.
Quote from: jsh on 22 April 2018, 11:10:35 PMQuote from: dextrapunch on 22 April 2018, 07:31:28 PM
Ok, that's not his job. But that would be mods' one.
Either mods declare that insulting is allowed, or mods ban all people that do not abide strictly to the rules.
The two cannot exist simultaneously.
I don't have a system or the time to know about every single instance of this. I'm a volunteer. Right now, users can simply blacklist people they don't want to play with. It isn't a perfect system but the system does work. My advice is not to worry about awful people being awful to others when you can put them in your personal blacklist and never see them again.
QuoteHowever, it seems you have a classic case of selective amnesia. We as humans tend to fixate on the times that screwed us over and become convinced that the universe is aligned against us.
QuoteI've also played thousands of games, I'm usually at around level 58-60 (I've been on the top 20 two or three times). I also feel that luck plays too big of a role when both players more or less know what they're doing
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This has been suggested and discussed many, many times. And the fact is, that this rule change would change a slight first-player advantage into a huge second player advantage. The first player could no longer ever end the game with a win; he would have to always make sure he builds up a big enough lead first, and then end the game; hoping that the second player can't catch up. Whereas the second player can continue to play normal Dominion, and win simply by ending the game while 1 or more points ahead. It would be very unfair to the first player. The object of Dominion is not to get the highest score you can (and then hope that it is higher than your opponent's score). The object is to end the game while you are in the lead.
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I doubt that you made your original post in the midst of anger, so I suspect that it's an issue that you thought about for a while. Which means that your decision to (at least temporarily) leave Dominion will not change . . . at least, for now.