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#1
Quote from: Donald X. on 04 August 2018, 12:04:12 AM
Quote from: Stef on 03 August 2018, 05:30:51 PM
Yes, I can respond, but I don't have anything new to say.
Development hasn't progressed as I planned lately, but I haven't changed the schedule for this (yet?).
The offline version is useless without real AI - I would not even offer it to people, it would just make us look bad. And real AI is useful without the offline version.

So, I imagine you are doing the real AI first?

Honestly, it is neigh impossible not to look bad and that is not entirely Shuffle iT's fault ...

TBH I'm still pissed about having spent good money on the previous implementation and getting screwed on this version that still doesn't have offline.

I only came back because I was hoping it had gotten better but obviously not.
#2
General Discussion / Re: Pricing and reimbursement
06 January 2017, 02:55:41 AM
Quote from: josh bornstein on 05 January 2017, 12:24:41 PM
Quote from: ThetaSigma12 on 04 January 2017, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Jacob Marley on 04 January 2017, 06:59:04 PM
I bought a car at Michaels Toyota in Fresno, CA years ago.  It broke down.  Now I should be able to go to Stevens Creek Toyota in San Jose and have them give me a new car since I paid for one and it no longer works.

This illustrates the flaw in your argument.  You didn't pay for the right to use Dominion for the rest of your life no matter who is providing it, you paid for the use of Goko/MK's Dominion product. That is now gone (broken down).  You didn't "already" pay for ShuffleIt's product, but they, in the interest of customer service, are giving you free use of their product for a limited time. 

We've all heard this argument before, and it stems from an emotional reaction where you feel that you should own the new product, not the legal reality.
This.

Not a great analogy.  Here is a different one:
You got to your first Fresno Toyota dealership to buy your car.  Instead of paying $25,000 for Model X, you instead pay 37,500 for the same car, for a lifetime of Toyota car use.  All good, for many years.  But then Toyota is bought out by, say Honda (or Rolls Royce, or whatever).  Now, you find out that your original "lifetime" warranty is worthless.  Yes, your fault for not reading the fine print of that contract you signed, where it said it was valid only re Toyota.

The fact that Honda is willing to give you a year's free lease on a replacement car is something, of course.  And maybe something that, strictly speaking, it was not legally required to do.  But you probably are not going to be super-happy with Honda, and since it's the only car dealership still around (Remember that Toyota was bought out), it's Honda that will get the brunt of your wrath.

Of course, it could have been part of the Toyota-Honda buyout agreement that all 'lifetime' warranties would be honored by Honda.  Or Honda could say, "Hey, it wasn't part of the agreement, but we'll grandfather all of you legacy buyers and your old agreements will be honored."  But unless Honda gets a crapload of bad publicity, there really isn't any business reason to turn down all that future renewal money.

I pissed away close to $100 buying (or overbuying, in retrospect) the game and all the expansions under the old ownership.  I am hopeful that, at the end of this year, I'll be given the option of buying future use for a vastly reduced amount.  I'd feel ripped off if I had to pay double, and probably would not elect to renew.  If enough people feel the same way, then I suspect that the new Dom. owners will listen, and will try to work with us.  If it turns out that only a few people are really that exercised about it, then I think that the message to us will be, "Hard cheese.  If you want to pay full price again, great.  If not, then we'll be sorry to lose your business with us.  Don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out."  :-)

Market forces at work.  Alas.

Here is MY analogy.

I Buy a Toyota with all the bells and whistles to go off-road alone I don't want/need anyone with me cause anyone with me it came with a winch (campaign mode) if I get stuck. So I off driving the trails and all of a sudden my truck stops running. I have gas I have spark there is nothing wrong with it. Unbeknownst to me Toyota just sold the rights to the truck line to GM and a kill command was sent to my perfectly GREAT vehicle (at least to me I like it even if others don't). I then find out that in order to continue driving the trails I have to use a DIFFERENT truck does not have all the features that I am used to and really the only ones that matter to me (campaign mode) and to add insult to injury I have to pay ~50% of what I paid originally EVERY YEAR for the privilege.

Oh and as far as the first year free not on my account.
#3
General Discussion / Re: Pricing and reimbursement
04 January 2017, 04:13:08 AM
Quote from: jsh on 04 January 2017, 03:58:43 AM
The base set cards missing is not shuffle it's choice. Those cards were removed in the second edition and aren't meant to appear anymore.

Fair enough I was not aware of that (I have had the physical version for a VERY long time), I liked some of those cards.
#4
General Discussion / Re: Pricing and reimbursement
04 January 2017, 03:54:46 AM
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I realize that Shuffle iT got NO money. However Shuffle iT DID get a customer base, albeit with baggage, and has to be careful of not pissing off. Until feature parity with the previous application has been reached Shuffle iT will not get a penny from me and probably not others either.

Key features for me:
Windows Client (web based does not count)
Campaign Mode
Hide VP Counters
Missing cards (there are several missing from base set alone)

NON SUBSCRIPTION MODE OF PURCHASE, If I wanted ongoing cost I would play MTG


I do not necessarily expect this to be free and would be willing to purchase the game again, at a significant discount relative to previous purchases (this is part of the baggage that Shuffle iT has to deal with IMO).


This being said this is not entirely the fault of Shuffle iT this is partially the fault of Rio Grande Games and Donald X who have set Shuffle iT up for an epic fail, at least in my book. However, Shuffle iT took on the project and now has to deal with it and complaining to us that no money was received for any purchases that we may have made is NOT going to help the situtation.