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Indeed some need to be changed. Others just get banned. In this case it was the latter.

Thanks for the good work.
When you do it I am the first to thank.

IMHO a nickname like superf**ker shouldn't be allowed.

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I very rarely had all the problems that I have on here back in the Isotropic days.  The interface was faster, people were nicer, the server never bogged down, and there was a mute.  It has been running very slow on me at times the past few days. 
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Thanks man. You made my day. I toally forgot the name of the server I played on before this one. Isotropic. I NEVER had problems there. Should be taken as an example.

How do we know you're not still trolling us?

Easy. If I were still a troll I would have no benefits in having my blacklist full. Trolls have fun sticking with the same people.

That said, yep, I started the troll account in order to see how much and how good the "**shol* control system" was by faking to be one.

My time is precious.

I find it hard for both these statements to be true.

Yeah I can get the point that you don't care about the community. I tried whatever to sort things out, from complaining in the forum to embody the people I dislike to see what would have happened. I spent some time doing this but actually that is MY time I dispose of it the way I want and surely I never slowplaied. I just typed stuff in the chat window. If people didn't want to lose time over me, like many did, ignoring has always been an option.

Thanks for allowing me to point out what could be a contradiction to a very inattentive person.

[One other thing: there are people doing something different on a different browser window while you wait their turn for playing. This is mostly annoying. More than anything.]

If I would, I would have removed Fastman (aka DominionTroll, TheAnnoyer, ...) from this forum some time ago, and probably Adam along with him. Both of you say something useful from time to time, but in my personal opinion it just doesn't make up for the negativity you produce along with it. I also can't believe that it is an attitude that helps you more then it hurts you in the rest of your life.

I think that relating a forum username to an account while in this forum as soon as you write "xxxdominionplayer did that" you blank the name, is a very plain crystal clear use of double standards. Users can't do it, you shouldn't do that in first instance.

I have been, and I still am, in charge of many forums and Facebook groups and this over the past 20 years, and believe me when I say that I learnt two things about being an admin.
While 1) you do not allow people questioning what you do because you can put the word "final" everytime everywhere, and that will give you authority 2) you don't do something you forbid other people to, because that will weaken your authoritativeness. And if you want people to populate your forum and game, you will need both Authority AND Authoritativeness, but relying on the first only will have people flee and quit, relying more on the second will have this a more healthy community.

That said, yep, I started the troll account in order to see how much and how good the "**shol* control system" was by faking to be one. Actually I have trolled or annoyed people just a few of times, and zero in the last two months, I don't find it entertaining. If I were able to change the account name to something different I would have.

On the other hand, my blacklist is really full. Problem is not just only people having the tendency to teabag. They really do that. There is aboslutely NO need to teabag your opponent. If I can buy the last curse and that will end the game in victory for me, I don't even start the turn. I end actions buy last curse and greet my opponent.

But that's not just the point, because if it was only teabagging I would have 15/20 people in my blacklist. Not 50.
There are people slowplaying on purpose. People cussing and insulting. People calling you lucky when you aren't or people unable to admit a game ended out of pure luck when it actually did (though I don't blacklist for this reason and I find it pretty negative to call out the luck factor, except when it's totally manifest, which happens.

One other thing: there are people doing something different on a different browser window while you wait their turn for playing. This is mostly annoying. More than anything.
This could be also fixed by changing the timeout to a lower value than 4 minutes if they haven't focus on the Dominion window

My time is precious. If you find out people stealing from you does this enrage you? Surely it does.
Stealing time is even worse. You can work out or win your money back but you will never get your time back.
People robbing you of your time, while you are playing and waiting for them to play, are toxic.

One time can happen, two can happen, but too often it is manifest that people are doing something entirely different while you play against them. This behaviour should be discouraged in some way.

So while you treat me most as a negative person which put only negative thoughts, I actually think I gave you something entirely different to think about. And since you seem to be an intelligent person, you surely have already started.

Cheers.

I agree that reply by jsh was uncalled for and not helping. Demeaning somebody by 'accusing' them of a perceived younger age is a standard 'bad' rethoric method that shouldn't be used in an argument.

One thing that I perceive, both here in the forum and in the game itself, is that abuses are not punished. In another forum this behaviour would have led to at least a public warning.
I feel like moderation here is somewhat passive, like as if mods are simply very afraid of losing paying players, so they have a very special treatment or rules of their own.

OTOH, if you say that you are "sick of the people here" and have "grown a real hate towards these people", you might elicit a response from "the people here" that is also not just rosy.

I can understand your frustrations with some of the behaviour you described. But if you know you are loosing, then having to wait a few more seconds for the opponent to finish in his way doesn't seem much of a problem, as you can resign (and then blacklist).

This is actually what I do. But is it that possible that I play online games since 20 years and this is the first game in which my blacklist hosts more than 40 players?
I mean, I have new additions every single day I play!

Again, I don't want to see anyone leave the game because they see the community generally as broken/toxic. It just happens that my personal experience (which is probably different from those of a non-paying player, and of course also not representative of all paying players) is that the community has the usual outliers, but generally works.

I agree that different people have different perceptions. On the other hand some little consideration that little or no moderation of undesiderable behaviours can lead to a slightly toxic community should be held in account.

In other words, summer's ending and you have to go back to school?

Comments like this one are evidence I am right.

I am really sick of the people here.
With one last province to buy, and having already 8 in hand, this player went on remodelling stuff and the like.
I really have grown a real hate towards these people, and since the game is becoming toxic because of problem people, I think I will be done with this server soon.

Hello,

I did as I was told to. When the player started to slowplay on purpose and insult me in chat, I noticed the game number "#17477767", resigned and blacklist the opponent.

I therefore ask the match not be counted in ranked matches.

THanks.

Happeend AGAIN.

I lose by mere 3 points to a player who keeps playing even if he had the coins to buy the last card.
He buys two cards: the last one and a totally useless no-victory-point-awarding card.

Then I tell him during his last turn that he could end the game and he knows it and I will blacklist him for that.
His reply is "not my fault if you plaid SHIT"

I think this is a double abusive behaviour.
Abuse 1: you keep on playing when you can end the game, leading me to resign to end it quickly.
Abuse 2: use of the word SHIT in chatroom.

I'm sick of this.
I'll be quitting soon if nothing changes.

I think most people would agree there is room for improvement to the reporting system.
But the real question is: Is it worth using limited development time on it?
When the time could be better spent on other features.

My answer is 100% yes.
My gamind experience is frequently ruined.
But I can cope with people having different needs.

I also feel that one of the things that online games have taught us (like Overwatch, cited above) is that if people think there could be immediate consequences for anti-social behaviour they start behaving better in the long run. The blacklist feature has proven itself not to have that deterrent value.

I totally second this.

One very easy-to-implement and successful feature can be this one:

you press the lightning button. A sub menu appears with a radio button.

- Insulting or bad words
- Abusive playing
- Slowing the game on purpose
- Other personal reasons.

So if a player gets too many "blacklist" for the very same reason, it gets to the mods attention.
It's a report button, but, if you press it, you wouldn't be able to play with that player anymore so you cannot abuse the feature.

Then, I read that players are banned with no warnings. This is also wrong.
I strongly enforce correction, not removal.

Warning that some behaviour is seriouslu leading to a banning via a message, will correct the player's behaviour.

Hello

I thought a lot before posting this, but as a long term player of many online games, I see taht this community is either broken or something deeply doesn't work in how it's run bu the admins.

- People insulting in chat for a game.
No option to mute the chat, no "report" button (which is everywhere but here) and when people complain in the forum the best they are told is "blacklist those players". Which is frustrating when one just wants justice dealt.

- Trolls troll and they don't get banned.
People join the forum discussion stating they're a troll and nobody does anything about it.

- Players have nasty behaviours.
A lot of times I got messaegs in the chat like "you're just lucky" or the annoying "GG" ages before the game is over. One time the player kept on saying that for three turns because I was in lead and he thought I was buying the last province. Result? I had bad cards for 3 turns and he managed to overcome me and then buy the last province. How frustrating is that?
Not only, people rarely end the game as soon as possible. They want to get the more points possible, even if it's clear that the game is over and they won.  When this starts, I resign.

- People complaining about the right behaviour.
People here in the forum come even to complain for people resigning when the game is lost. What should a normal person do? Sit and watch someone playing and playing because they don't want to end the game? I've been there, no thanks, but at least do not whine about me resigning.

- Pepole losing time on purpose.
Yes, you probably get banned for that (at least for one reason you do!) but you still have to resign and hope it works. If it doesn't, he trolled you and won the game and you have nothing.

- People minding their own business and doing other stuff white playing.
I do not do other stuff while playing. It's called "RESPECT". Instead, I have a lot of people vanishing during a game and coming back 2 minutes after saying "Sorry, phone call" or "Sorry I'm playing two games in the same time". COME ON! You serious?

I can count on examples all day long, still the fact is that I never encountered such a throng of unpolite and disrespectufl players in an online game.

And since I don't think that Dominion is somewhat a magnet for trolls, I have to think that this community isn't handled properly by its runners, whoever they are.

Too bad, because people PAY for this and they get a really bad service IMHO.

Hope that more people complain and something starts moving because this is actually unbearable, the forum is literally FILLED with complaints and nothing happens.

Cheers