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#16
I encountered another instance of this bug. #6437249 on oregon, again, the game does not end when i use my last buy to end the game on a 3-pile and again, the last line in the log after reloading the page reads "Reshuffling the black market deck.".

So I am really convinced now that there's a bug where reshuffling the black market at the end of the game freezes it in a weird state. One thing I noticed though that seems strange is why is the black market reshuffled at the end of my turn and not directly after I played the black market that caused the reshuffle/directly before the black market that causes the shuffle? I'm not sure how that mechanism is supposed to work though.

I made a screenshot of the frozen state and also saved the whole log in case it's broken again, though only by copy+paste so it is really ugly formatted right now but that could be fixed.
#17
General Discussion / Re: Deck Tracker App
26 August 2017, 01:12:41 PM
Quote from: meathead40 on 26 August 2017, 02:41:55 AM
Just curious - how would having this data real time really give an opponent a strong edge?  VP counter shows the victory points.  I guess it could be a slight advantage but curious to hear feedback..

Knowing what is in the remainder of your/your opponents deck is important for assessing the strength of your/your opponents upcoming turns, i.e. how much they are able to do or if they're gonna have a dud turn. Of course you could also do that in your mind but using an app is easier and gives you more time to concentrate on other aspects. Especially in the end game you should be able to make more clutch decisions, where knowing that your opponent is likely to have a bad turn upcoming is very valuable information as to what you should buy or how you should play it out.
#18
This might be related to
http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2028.0
where I posted several instances of a similiar bug where the game didn't end. Two of those recorded instances also had black market on the board and in the last game I posted the screenshot I made also shows "Reshuffling black market". Unfortunately I can't remember whether the original game that I opened this thread for had black market in it and if I now try to reload that game it gives me "Internal error", so I don't know if it's just the black market causing this.
#19
General Discussion / Re: Deck Tracker App
24 August 2017, 01:52:03 PM
I have also never seen this, but it shouldn't be too hard to make right? Why was it displayed in the log though? How can that deck-tracker app also manipulate the log at the end of game and why should it do that? That's strange.
#20
Somehow this bug seems to have begun to pursue me, at least in my bot games :D Encountered it in #6221180 on tokyo. Same as last time, reloading the page shows all provinces bought out and the hand of the start of my next turn, while displaying "Waiting for E.Honda", even though it should be the bots turn. Resigning the game worked for me. Maybe the game log is broken again, like last time.

I made a screenshot of the frozen game that I'm gonna attach, in case that helps in any way. Maybe there will be enough data produced from my bot games to pin this bug down eventually ;D
#21
Feature Requests / Re: Option to mute the chat
19 August 2017, 12:23:07 AM
I agree that would be a nice Feature to have. Sometimes players are rude/annoying and then I Blacklist them even though they are not slowplaying me or anything. A mute function would be a nice Option there
#22
I am pretty sure it was this game, I copied the # directly from ingame log and was excited that it was only 0s and 6s so it should be this one :D I also reloaded it and for me it also ends on turn 5 now, but i definitely played that game to the end. Seems like the log is broken I don't know if that's in any way related to the end-of-game bug
#23
I reencountered this bug in a botgame, #6006066 on tokyo. This time emptying the last province didn't end the game, apart from that its the same, with freeze and hand for next turn dealt on reload while province pile sits at 0.

Edit:
Resigning via the ingame "resign" button worked this time though.
#25
In game #5637757 on frankfurt on my turn 21 i bought the last colony and hit "end turn" to end my turn and the game. After hitting the button it disappeared but the game did not end. I was still able to chat with the other player who had the same issue.

I then requested an undo and he could see that, but i cancelled it and when trying to request it again to repeat the last colony buy the undo request did not work anymore.
My opponent then tried to resign but i dont know if that worked for them. For me it didnt, I'm still in the game but they disconnected/reconnected and then left the table. I want to try kicking them via the idle timer but i dont know if it will show up, so far it hasn't.

I also noticed after some page reloads that i had still 2 buys (and $0) left and the little "+" sign on copper indicated i could buy them. I tried that and the game froze, but after reloading i had only 1 buy left and the log showed me having bought a copper. I repeated that for another copper, dropping me down to 0 buys but that also didn't end the game, it just showed a new hand when i reloaded after the second copper freeze (presumably the one i wouldve been dealt next turn)

Edit:
I went off to do something else and stayed logged in in that game for about 45 minutes. When I came back, it didn't show the "make opponent resign" dialog but instead after reloading the page my opponents name had changed to "UNKNOWN_2410". I tried resigning but that didn't get me out of the game either. In the end i kicked myself from the login screen via "kick and resign" and that worked.
#26
Today I encountered another bug, I think this one has not been reported so far as I only found one thread about inheritance using the search function in the bugs section.

In game #5052959 on my turn 14 we encountered a bug. I end my action phase with an inherited estate in hand (inheritance on fortress) and two buys. On my first buy I buy advance to trash the estate into a nobles and return it to my hand due to its fortress ability. I then try to trash it again to my second advance buy and this crashes the game.

The bug is not in the log since we undid and I bought something else with my second buy but to reproduce you can jump to decision #125 which is right after the first advance buy with the estate selected as the target. Select nobles to gain, buy advance again and select the estate again, this crashes the game. If you reconnect at that point it shows a blank (non-inherited) estate in hand and you have no way to make another move.
#27
In game #4953732 (i forgot on which server unfortunately, maybe oregon) we encountered a bug/freeze. My opponent played their bridge troll and gave me the -coin token that way. On my turn 21, i have a hand of Gold, 2x Copper and two dud cards and am 5 in debt, so I can pay off 4 debt discounting the -coin token. I then click the "Pay off 4 debt" button without playing any treasures before and the game freezes. After reloading i was able to reconnect and saw that it had played 1 Gold and 1 Copper and payed off 4 debt that way. That should not be possible since I first have to play all my treasures to generate ($5 - $1) coins and then would be able to pay off 4 debt.
There was also no end turn button for me and i was stuck, but we undid to my opponents turn and the second time i first played all my treasures and then payed off the 4 debt and everything worked as intended.
The bug is not in the log of the game, since we undid, but you should be able to reproduce by starting from my turn 21 and then simply pressing "pay off 4 debt".
#28
In game #1078203 on oregon I bought a card at the end of my turn while having scheme and a kings courted scheme in play. After buying the card, which ended my buy phase, the game froze, so I reloaded the page, intending to reconnect. I didn't try kicking before reconnecting, so when I clicked login, i was presented with the loading screen which said "reconnecting ...". After a few seconds I clicked cancel, because I thought that would bring me back to the login screen to try kicking and then reconnecting, but instead I ended up in the lobby, from where I could see my old game still open in the matching tab, but i was not able to join again. It only had my opponent left in there, and when i tried to click "play" it said "you are not allowed to play".
#29
Quote from: knadles on 02 January 2017, 05:42:31 PM
Regarding the subscription model, save it for those folks who who wish to compete against other humans. Personally, I find online play to be tiresome, especially when another player decides to walk his dog mid-turn. But operating and maintaining the online servers is a legitimate expense and should be paid for accordingly.

There will be a standalone offline version you can purchase with a one time payment i believe.
#30
General Discussion / Re: No Bots?
02 January 2017, 05:18:34 PM
You have to wait for another Player to join your table before you click ready. If you click ready before another Player joins your table everyone at the table is ready so the game is started and empty seats are filled with bots.