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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #90 on: 11 January 2018, 09:31:21 PM »
Hi Stef,

My two cents worth:

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots /
   - if it was combined with a strong bot and was sufficiently standard to be rated that would be good, but not essential.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
   Even better would be a Bot that analysed a human players strategy and modified the bot-tactics as required.

3. A strong bot.
   Stong bot is a good bot!

4. Options for timed games
   Yes two different implementations spring to mind:
    A. Each player gets a total time of x mins (ie. I just want a game that is between x -2x minutes long)
    B. No player can spend more than say 2mins more than the other player throughout the entire game (ie. penalise go-slow players).  This then allows for more complicated decks that do actually take more time per turn.

5. Options for undo settings
    Sounds reasonable (always allow, allow if no cards drawn, never allow etc...)

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

That would be a fun addition.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
   Not of use for me

8. More translations (to what language?)
   Hasn't been a major issue for me as an English speaker...

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
   don't care   

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
    Yes, Archive implementatoin as a priority!

10. Option to hide the log
    only to show something else briefly...

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
    Apple user here
   

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
    Not sure how an iPhone App would work...  iPad - sure :)

13. Downloadable game logs
    not a big one for me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
    I've had a few issues with this but never bothered reporting as it seemed too hard...  So yes!

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
    sure...

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
    Sure...

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #91 on: 11 January 2018, 09:36:18 PM »
Dawn Patrol here. I would love to get a 6 month extension. I bought and played Intrigue, Alchemy, Prosperity, Cornucopia, and Guilds expansions.

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots.
-- Not that interested. The online versions works just fine for me.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles.
3. A strong bot.

-- Yes, some variation in the bots would be nice. I did mostly bot play, which is much faster. Bots AI does some dumb things: buy Mint on first turn, obsess on buying Apothecary cards to the exclusion of anything else, buy Sauna but never the split Avanto cards. So smarter bots would be nice. Or faster people.

4. Options for timed games.
-- That sounds interesting. It would speed up non-bot play, wouldn't it?

5. Options for undo settings.
6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
7. Option to invite specific players to your table.

-- Not interested in 5, 6, 7.

8. More translations (to what language?)
-- Non.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
-- No, just slows down game play.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
-- After the first game play, splits are not a problem.

10. Option to hide the log.
-- How about an improved log with a chart that would show cards purchased by each player/bot? That just summarizes info already available in the log, but who wants to spend 5 minutes figuring out how many City cards the bot bought?

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
13. Downloadable game logs.

-- Nope to these.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
-- Never really had a problem.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

-- Not needed.

Other:
-- Easier way to chat with opposing player would be nice.

Thanks! Look forward to upgrades.

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #92 on: 11 January 2018, 09:36:50 PM »
Username: Rhun

1. An offline client is not a necessity for me. I appreciate much the human intelligence and versatility.

2. Cf 1. I do not believe that a strong bot can really confront human. Maybe with learning algorithms ? What is your IA ?

3. If you think it is possible :) Some IA becomes champion at go.

4. Not really.

5. I do not need as there is no serious reward in the ladder (free subscription for beat player as a sponsoring ?).

6. why not. Could be fun.

7. Naah. I got no friend.

8. Maybe french.

9. I cant see anything on my phone. So...

10. The split card description could be improved.

10. No, let the log ! It contains major informations.

11. Yes ! Yes ! Yes !

12. No ! No ! No ! (Jocking, but still no).

13. I will never DL anything.

14. Maybe a mute button. But its use would be quite rare.

15. 16. No and no. But it will not help gathering new players.

About the price: you should also ask things here. I am definitely sure that there will be some troubles: now I am waiting for game because every one want extention in their game. Few people with high price or a lot of people at low price ?

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #93 on: 11 January 2018, 09:37:17 PM »
Hi Stef,

First I'd like to say it's amazing that you are looking for feedback. I was super upset when the game went from one time purchase to yearly subscription so I'm happy to help in any way as a fan of Dominion.

Most of your questions seem to ask about 'options'. Options are always good and rarely ever a negative. Some questions, such as which languages would be purely based on your clientele and the number of them signed up, of which I cannot intelligently answer.
For offline play, that is a nice option but I like playing people as that is the best setting for 'bots with different play styles' Yes various levels of bots are great.
I would rarely ever play a timed game but again, options are good if they are cost effective.

Tournaments are a great idea. When it comes to friends I can say this. I have a group of friends that would not sign on/up if they didn't have access to all the cards. So if everyone needed to own everything in order to play, that would not get my friends online. However, if we could all play using all the cards that one person owns, that gets them online and from there people would eventually buy their own copies. If you get them online, they are more likely to stay.

I like the graphics currently and I understand how everything plays.

Being smartphone accessible is great either improved compatibility or app.

Having a tutorial is always good for new players.

Hope that helps and isn't too long :)
LTJ

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #94 on: 11 January 2018, 09:40:53 PM »
My username is Oyvind, and I think it was ØyvindSchiøtt at MF. I had to change it because of the Norwegian characters, so now I’m just Oyvind. I’m one of those who had everything that was available at the time on Making Fun. I have a gold subscription currently as well.

OK, here I go:

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, please! I love campaign style games.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Cool, but in no way necessary.

 3. A strong bot
I really do hope for that!

 4. Options for timed games
Nah, it wouldn’t matter to me.

 5. Options for undo settings
Yes, if you by that mean that you can auto-grant if someone hasn’t gleaned new information and auto-deny if someone has.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Sounds great!

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Not for ranked play, but for friendlies, yes please.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not necessary to me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I don’t know about better, but clearer would be swell!

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, please. I forget things like that all the time, and it’s unfortunate having to go through the log to find info like that.

10. Option to hide the log
I’m perfectly fine with the log visible, but if you get to place more info on the screen, like additional cards that would be visible IRL, I’m all for it!

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No such device at the moment, so, no.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
An app would be amazing! I love the idea! And for iPad, even more!

13. Downloadable game logs
Yes, that would be very nice.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I have no problem with that myself.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
If 16 comes to fruition, I don’t see a need for it.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online
I wouldn’t need it myself, but if you want to grow the customer base, this is sorely needed! I’d say that any self-respecting game company should have a tutorial for all their games, physical or digital. A couple of my friends not familiar with Dominion already have tried it, and they just gave up...

That being said, I think you’ve done a fantastic job with this assignment. There’s still a couple of things I’d love to see, though, and that is to be able to play with Possession again, if the opponents haven’t banned it personally. I’d love to be able to play with Stash too, even if it isn’t that good. And finally, and to me more importantly: Have options to search for 4p, 5p or 6p games! Without all the set-up time and quicker turns (compared to IRL playing), I see no reason why multiplayer games wouldn’t work in a digital game. I prefer playing multiplayer games IRL, and that should be easier, not more difficult, to do digitally.

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #95 on: 11 January 2018, 09:45:44 PM »
Stef,

(Name is pizowned in client)

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
While I prefer to play online, good campaigns would also be really fun. However, I DON'T think the previous way of making campaigns was fun (giving the bots Silvers instead of Coppers or Provinces instead of Estates, etc.). Better bots is the solution (see below).

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This would be nice, but not necessary. The best way would be to train the bots on each kingdom and have a competitive bot! Reinforcement learning, likely. This is challenging, but way worth it (it could even make bots better than good Dominion players) if you can get some outside help implementing it. This would allow all sorts of bot difficulties based on how much they were trained on a kingdom.

3. A strong bot.
This would be awesome if you could use Reinforcement Learning (see above) to train bots.

4. Options for timed games
Cool, but I don't know how much I would like it.

5. Options for undo settings
I like the way they are now.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Really cool, I think me and the community would love this.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
The current way is fine, though it can be annoying sometimes to have random players join all the time.

8. More translations (to what language?)
English is fine for me.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
This would help me a bit, but otherwise a better log (i.e. choices on Pawn, Amulet, etc.) which details ALL player selections would be much better.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Yes, very helpful. All of these would be a great improvement.

10. Option to hide the log
Not needed, for me.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not needed.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not needed.

13. Downloadable game logs
This would be really fun to have. Especially to where we can go back and look at previous games we've played and check out the logs.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
As long as the "block" feature works as intended, I don't see a huge need. Slowplayers are the WORST...I hope that when they are found to be slowplaying they are banned for a long time.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not useful for me.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not useful for me.

17. Other
Improved stats would be really nice. Like wins/losses from the last 10 games, stats on card openings, stats on how many times a card is bought when it is in the kingdom, etc.

Thanks Stef! Hopefully you get what you need :)

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #96 on: 11 January 2018, 09:46:36 PM »
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

Not essential, it’d be nice but I probably wouldn’t get full use out if it unless it was a good story in its own right.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Not bothered. I like playing humans.

 3. A strong bot.

Not bothered. I like playing humans.

 4. Options for timed games

Maybe, not essential.

 5. Options for undo settings

Something like “only allow undo if no new info has been revealed” and only one step. I always let people undo but have only used it myself when I’ve accidentally ended my turn without buying or similar. Also move “view trash” away from “undo”, I’ve clicked undo when all I wanted to do was see what was in the bin.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

Something I would quite like to join in with. But without having to have friends.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

Not interested really.

 8. More translations (to what language?)

English is fine by me.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I missed the fancy sparkles on the old app, but wouldn’t especially want them back. I would like the animations to go at the same speed and make sense all the time, sometimes the game seems to end and I haven’t seen the last province bought (and that was how it ended) and the animation when my opponent swaps the teacher/champion set of cards seem opaque to me too.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

The thing I would like most. I don’t see why I can’t see the Settler & the Bustling Village when I click on the pile anyway? I don’t want to see the whole Black Market deck or anything but “which of the tournament prizes are left” would be about right.

10. Option to hide the log

Last year I would have said yes, but now I would prefer it to work better. I’d like to be able to click on the card names and see the cards in question. I’d like to be able to collapse the turns to make it easier to navigate. I’d like to be able to see my opponent’s rating without scrolling right back to the top.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Not for me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

iPad app would be great, but the web app is now pretty decent. I’d prioritize a better interface for everyone on the web over an app to be honest.

13. Downloadable game logs

I wouldn’t want to use them myself particularly, I would like there to be options that enable others to build tools for analysis though, extended versions of what the scavenger site does now.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Not had much problem with either.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Not for me, though I think it would be useful to bring in new subscribers.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Not for me.

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #97 on: 11 January 2018, 09:52:54 PM »
Dav3ywav3y

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Yes, that sounds like it could be interesting. Cos since I lost the expansions, the Bots have just been Council-Room-spamming their way through every game, and it's got really really boring. Might be nice to try something different.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Again, could be interesting, but with only the Base Set to play with, it'd still get old fast. I've had the card version and the previous online version, he's not having my money again for this new version.

3. A strong bot.
Improved AI is long needed. Some of the things they do are just ridiculous.

4. Options for timed games
Not something that interests me.

5. Options for undo settings
Not something that interests me.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not something that interests me.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Sounds like a reasonable feature, and something I might use.

8. More translations (to what language?)
Not something I'd use.

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
I'm satisfied with the current ones.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Would be useful for cards I don't know already, but once learned it wouldn't have much effect. I wouldn't want you to focus on this one at the expense of other features above.

10. Option to hide the log
Not something I'd use.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not something I'd use.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
Not something I'd use.

13. Downloadable game logs
Not something that interests me.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I generally play against Bots or against people I know, so this wouldn't be something that would impact me much. But if I was to play with random players, I'd want to know I'd be backed up if something turned nasty. It's generally the reason I don't play random players!

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
Not something I'd use.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
Not something I'd use, now I've learnt it already. Might have been useful at the start to get the hang of the interface.

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #98 on: 11 January 2018, 09:53:50 PM »
. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
good idea
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
yes
 3. A strong bot.
i think the bots are strong enough
 4. Options for timed games
not for me
 5. Options for undo settings
okay for me
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
i dont want to play tournaments
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
yes please
 8. More translations (to what language?)
there a translation in german thats enough for me
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
no
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
yes please
10. Option to hide the log
no i never hide the log
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
yes please !!!!
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

13. Downloadable game logs
i dont need them
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
no
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
no
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
no

I like dominion

Smutje

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #99 on: 11 January 2018, 09:57:55 PM »
Hi,

my username: Peter

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Would be nice.

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Would be nice.

3. A strong bot.
Would be nice.

4. Options for timed games
I don't care.

5. Options for undo settings
Would be nice.

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
I don't care.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Absolutely necessary!

8. More translations (to what language?)
I don't care.
 
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Would be nice.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Would be nice.

10. Option to hide the log
I don't care.

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't care.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
I don't care.

13. Downloadable game logs
I don't care.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
I don't care.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I don't care.

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I don't care.

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #100 on: 11 January 2018, 09:59:24 PM »
Just losing all the sets I had purchased over time has been frustrating. I preferred how it used to be possible to purchase one set at a time – which meant I spent a small amount at a time plus it helped to get acquainted with the new cards, rather than having to buy for a silver or gold subscription – where my only option is to buy a short subscription if I don’t want wo spend so much.

Comments on your points:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
… would be a good option. On the old platform, I used to play campaigns off and on.
 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
… good idea, but not so vital.
 3. A strong bot.
… good idea, but not so vital.
 4. Options for timed games
Not something I miss
 5. Options for undo settings
Not something I miss
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
Not something I miss
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
Never thought about that
 8. More translations (to what language?)
Not something I need; I never changed to playing in my mother tone.
 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
Not something I miss
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
The one thing I would find helpful it so be able to see the bottom card of a split pile; as I don’t own these I don’t see them that often, so I tend to forget
10. Option to hide the log
Might be handy when playing on my netbook
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
At this point I don’t need it
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
As I don’t own an iPhone…
13. Downloadable game logs
Not something I would need
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
What has been annoying lately (before I lost my purchased cards): people who only want to play basic but don’t resign but just drop
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
I personally have no need for that
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I personally have no need for that

thanks!
dadalu

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #101 on: 11 January 2018, 10:03:33 PM »
I'm glad to help you with this, i f you want to credit my account for the feed back it's: "peetar"

Note: I have not read any of the other replies, and although I've joined the discord a few times, I've been pretty disengaged from the community. 99% of the games I play are either against my wife or friends I'm in the same room with, or during lunch break to kill a few minutes.

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots

I wouldn't use this unless it was on android. If I'm on my computer, I'm online.  Occasionally I still play the un-offical Android app "Androminion" to kill some time because it's quick and easy.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles

Giving the various bots different AI might be interesting. Allowing users to help improve existing AI or write their own would be really exciting! Imagaine a tournament of bots!

 3. A strong bot.

I'd like to see the bot AI improved. Stomping bots is nice and relaxing, but sometimes they make moves so stupid it's frustrating.

 4. Options for timed games

wouldn't use

 5. Options for undo settings

current undo is fine for me, but I don't play competatively

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.

YES, would use this.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table

This makes sense. Sometimes people join my game when I'm waiting for my wife, I feel bad for kicking them

 8. More translations (to what language?)

EN-US here, so I don't care

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...

I have no complaints here. UX is pretty good except for a few clunky interactions with having to click things in the log.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...

There are a couple minor QOL improvements I'm sure you are aware of. Some issues around how boons are displayed. No way to see knights/Black market

10. Option to hide the log

Might help on mobile??

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)

Tried playing on my phone once, terrible experience. Would use a re-vamped UI version on my phone for sure if the UI was extremely simple (text based like isotropic or Androminion)

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

Wife plays exclusivly on i-pad and it works great. She'd occasionally play on iPhone if UI worked

13. Downloadable game logs

Probably wouldn't use, but also seems easy to implment

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)

Never had problems, but I only play casually.

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion

Would not use

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.

Would not use


TO sum up my thoughts on Dominion offline:  I really love Androminion. It's a great way to just kill some time and practice against bots. And it has 1/4th the cards and functionality of dominion.games.  If you could easily leverage the code you've written for the logic/cards of the online version and simplified the UI down to text/minimilistic UI I'd play the heck out of it (and probably buy it from the app store).  I don't feel like I have a right to it because I bought all of the cards on MF.  I absolutely HATED that model. But I hate all game models where you pay for virtual goods. I don't mind paying for a subscrption or service. I don't mind paying for an app.

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #102 on: 11 January 2018, 10:04:09 PM »
my user name is tassilo2008.  Thanks for this option.

This client improved much over the year but subscription option for one year is much too expensive for me. I could imagine to pay this price for a lifetime option but not for just one year.

If there is any relation between the subscription price and how many new features, options and improvements are implemented then I would choose lower price and not any new features.

It seem I'm the most materialistic here but lower subscription price would have the highest priority for me. Then miles nothing ...then the other point:

0. work on /reduce price of  subscription.
 ad said my highest priority otherwise no chance to keep me here (5/5)

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
3. A strong bot.
Do not often play with Bots. Maye I would if there are good campaigns, strong bots and different play styles

4. Options for timed games
sound interesting as I like fast games (4/5)

5. Options for undo settings
it works fine for me as it is. (2/5)

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends
7. Option to invite specific players to your table
not so interesting for my ...I play with everyone who wants to play (2/5)

8. More translations (to what language?)
German and English is enough for me personally (1/5)

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
would be helpful, (4/5)

10. Option to hide the log
I like the log (1/5) but maybe there could be an option to see log an trash at the same time (4/5)

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
not relevant for me (1/5)

13. Downloadable game logs
game log is helpful during the game but why should I download and save ?  (1/5)

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
there was already some improvement with blacklist but still some idiots. If it helps to get rid of them , then yes please (3/5)

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
I play Dominion for years an use the interface since beginning, so not needed (1/5)

Additionally maybe some option to mix and save different card decks would be interesting

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #103 on: 11 January 2018, 10:07:32 PM »
Hi Stef, thank you for this opportunity!

Here are my thoughts on the items you asked about. My username is clb

 1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
I am more interested in the offline play of normal Dominion games against bots (or pass-and-play) than I am campaigns. I likely won't play campaigns, but if there is an offline implementation, I would play that quite a bit.

 2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
This is interesting and useful, and I would enjoy playing against bots that emphasized different play styes.

 3. A strong bot.
But this would be preferred over the variety of bots. Lord Bottington is good to have as an opponent, but I would like to play a bot that beats me often enough to help me improve my play.

 4. Options for timed games
I have no interest or need for this.

 5. Options for undo settings
The current undo is fine. There are occasions where I wish I could undo a little more, but I have never wished I could tailor the undo settings.

 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
sounds fun, but I'd likely not ever use it.

 7. Option to invite specific players to your table
This would be more helpful. I don't think that my family will be buying a subscription, though, so it isn't a high priority for me.

 8. More translations (to what language?)
N/A - English is my first language.

 9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No, thank you.

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
No, the visualizations are sufficient, imo.

10. Option to hide the log
That might be nice (provided the log is not needed to complete actions)

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
Yes, this is like the offline option - I would like to be able to get in a game in line like I did with Androminion or the other apps. Though, honestly, I don't anticipate buying a subscription, so if the app doesn't offer a one-and-done purchase, it isn't for me.

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
N/A

13. Downloadable game logs
I no longer dice into Dominion deeply enough to use logs.

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
N/A

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
N/A

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
N/A

Thank you!

Chris (clb)

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Re: feedback, Dominion Offline & free subscriptions for old MF users
« Reply #104 on: 11 January 2018, 10:21:39 PM »
Hi Stef!

Shuffle IT username: Dan Brooks

New user experience:
1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
 8. More translations (to what language?)


It would be nice to have a process for introducing new users to the game.

For example, maybe a user gets a referral to the site, creates an account, and plays through a tutorial that explains the rules and how the site works.

Although I wouldn't use this personally, it would be nice for introducing friends to the site and growing the player base.


Mobile version:
11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)

The current site is 80% usable on mobile, I play/unrated games on my iphone. With a few tweaks to the layout, I think that the site could be fully useable on mobile. An app release is lower priority for me than some other features.


Moderation:
14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
This has gotten better for me in the past few months, although it would be really satisfying to have a "report player" button for when it does happen.



Tournament/Friend Features:
 4. Options for timed games
 5. Options for undo settings
 6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
 7. Option to invite specific players to your table


Standardized/automated tournament settings would be really cool. I would play in these for sure.


Game Log:
9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
10. Option to hide the log
13. Downloadable game logs


The system as it's currently implemented works, and I don't see much need to change it. I definitely miss downloadable text game logs, and it would be nice to see those come back.


Bots:
2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
 3. A strong bot.


Over half my games are against bots, and I think it would be interesting to have a strong one.

I'm working with a few other grad students to build a competitive dominion AI.

Our initial baseline is a base set big money bot that we built a few years ago that focuses on buying good cards (Witch, Gold, Militia, Laboratory, Market, Festival, Smithy, Silver) and Provinces.

Now, we are putting together a model for playing engines. To begin the description, the basic stats on cards, like +2 action, +2 cards or +2 coins, are labeled. The expected draw of a deck is computed, under the assumption that draw cards are evenly distributed through the deck. The expected payload (coins, buys, gains, attacks) is computed based on the number of cards drawn and the availability of actions.

In the mid-game, the model is looking to maximize payload per turn. Early game, trashing is valued at a rate of 3 coins/card. Late game, points become important, as well as checking for pileouts (based on expected payload).

There are two areas in which we are interested in using learning techniques. The first is making tricky play order/buying decisions, such as deciding what card to remodel. Making the decision a few different ways and playing out a bunch of games is probably the best way to figure out spots like this. The second is for optimizing overall bot parameters, such as greening time, for a particular board or a set of boards.

Anyhow, if you're interested in discussing more, let me know.