Can replaying an old game please use a new random seed

[kevinb9n]

I had a game where I opened Warehouse/Moneylender (then Silver and some 5-cost terminal). Then this awful thing happened: I had a Warehouse turn where I had only Copper to discard, then I had a Moneylender turn with no Copper! I thought, wow, that is terrible, but what are the chances of that occurring?

I wondered how the game might have gone otherwise, so I replayed it a few times and the same exact thing happens every single time. Clearly the game has chosen a specific random seed already and is using it every time.

Can it not do that?

[josh bornstein]

I don't think the game currently has this (but I can see how it would be a great new feature--to try different combinations to see what works best)

But there might be a workaround.  You still have that game (number) saved, right?  All you have to do is reload that game, write down each card in the kingdom, and then create a new game with those cards.  I am hoping that this will "reset" things so that you have a new game. 

(If Dominion, instead, looks at your kingdom and says to itself, "Hey, that's exactly game 1234567 at Tokyo!", and loads that game, then the workaround will not work, I presume.) 

Please post back here and let us know the results.  There definitely have been games where I say to myself, "I wonder--would I have won if I had gone traditional instead of Duke/Dutchy?" or other strategic decisions like that.

[Cave-O-Sapien]

Note that recreating the kingdom based on the cardlist has some limitations, such as Knight ordering, Bane card, Druid Boons etc.

[kevinb9n]

It seems like this was fixed. Thanks!

[markus]

There hasn't been any change here.

There are some tricks to get around it:
-) if you're not playing the bot, you could pass your first two turns each to sort of start the game with a fresh shuffle.
-) already playing your treasures in a different order or playing more treasures would slightly change the order of cards when they are shuffled the next time.

I think it's nice to be able to replay games with the same seed for endgame puzzles. But there are those situations when you would want a new seed, so it would be a nice advanced option for loading games.

[kevinb9n]

You're right, I was wrong, nothing has been fixed.  What I've discovered is that the exact same configuration of decks is used every game, but what changes is *which* of the two shuffled decks I start with. (Probably one always goes with the start player.)

The way this should work seems very clear to me. When you type "/undo" you can see that you have the choice of going back to *before* both players shuffle their decks, or just after. So, all it needs to do is work just like it says it will work. Then I can choose which behavior I want.

[scout423]

How about adding a command "/random" which changes the random seed if you do it at start of playing an old game?  Similar usage to the "/undo" command, but doesn't clutter the UI with more options.