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Show posts MenuQuote from: Stef on 04 January 2017, 01:36:37 AMIt's nice that we get a free year of Dominion under your client.Quote from: TwoWhiteBears on 04 January 2017, 12:35:31 AMQuote from: Watno on 03 January 2017, 11:16:00 AMYou guys agreed to make a new client knowing this would be an issue. You don't want to do anything about that.
You payed money to Making Fun, whose license to online Dominion expired at the end of the last year. ShuffleIt can't do anything about that.
I don't understand why you think that. I would love to do something about that. Unfortunately, it involves building a time machine, going back 5 years in time, and warning Donald X. about this company making promises about his game beyond the scope of their licence.
Do you realize we got none of that money you paid? What would you have us do? Don't get me wrong, I do understand your pain. It totally sucks that you were promised something you're not getting. But I can't create it for you out of thin air. I don't think any of the people involved in the creation of this situation were evil or anything. The worst you can accuse them of is being a bit naive. And not just them, also the people paying that $90 and actually believing they could play Dominion Online forever (I was one of them).
Quote from: tufftaeh on 04 January 2017, 01:03:27 AMI'm not arguing that they should or shouldn't. I'm just clarifying that they knew this would be an issue and took on the project anyway. It's a little disingenuous for them to act like they're in this totally unfair position and are completely powerless.Quote from: TwoWhiteBears on 04 January 2017, 12:35:31 AMQuote from: Watno on 03 January 2017, 11:16:00 AMYou guys agreed to make a new client knowing this would be an issue. You don't want to do anything about that.
You payed money to Making Fun, whose license to online Dominion expired at the end of the last year. ShuffleIt can't do anything about that.
Actually, they are doing something about that. Basically, they (and probably Rio Grande Games and Donald X.) donate $40 to everybody who had all sets bought on Goko/MF. Or even more value if you consider that all these users will be able to chose the permanent offline app instead as soon as that is available.
Why should Shuffle iT want to pay money back that someone has given to someone else, expecting to get something for it that was never promised? (If you think it was promised, read the terms of use of MF.) If you are unhappy how Rio Grande Games handled the online Dominion license, complain at Rio Grande Games. I actually think that it was not a good idea to ever allow a company with a non-permanent license to "sell" "permanent" accounts. For online play this should have always been a subscription model. Luckily, this situation cannot happen again because now everybody knows that they are paying for a limited time only.
Quote from: Watno on 03 January 2017, 11:16:00 AMYou guys agreed to make a new client knowing this would be an issue. You don't want to do anything about that.
You payed money to Making Fun, whose license to online Dominion expired at the end of the last year. ShuffleIt can't do anything about that.
Quote from: Seprix on 01 January 2017, 08:22:07 PMA lot of people think it's much worse than MF's though. Why would we have faith that it's going to get better?
People just need to relax. The interface is already way better than Making Fun's, and it's only going to get better moving forward.
Quote from: markus on 01 January 2017, 12:45:44 PMThis was a big problem for me in the last client.
it shouldn't be possible to repeatedly make use of the full 5 minutes after playing each card.
Quote from: Stef on 01 January 2017, 12:21:16 PMDo you actually play online games? Who wants to wait five minutes for the guy who abruptly leaves?
I like 5 minutes as a timeout, but in the not-too-distant-future you'll be able to specify the timeout on your own games. And then people who think you set it too short can simply not join your game.
Quote from: ackmondual on 01 January 2017, 07:23:18 AMI totally disagree. If your Internet cuts out, sucks for you, but don't make your opponent suffer for it. Bust your ass to get back into the room. It definitely should not take five minutes. That is absurd. I can probably restart my computer and get back into a room in under a minute.Quote from: TwoWhiteBears on 01 January 2017, 05:08:08 AMThese appear to be different things... disconnect is when your internet connection gets a "hiccup".Quote from: Stef on 01 January 2017, 12:12:52 AMYo dudeQuote from: macpuddock on 01 January 2017, 12:09:04 AM
Started a 2 player game and after the first turn my opponent left, saying he was just there to see what it looked like. Game was still running with only me at the table, so I resigned as I didn't see any other option. Scoreboard at the end showed simply 3 pts each and me resigning, nothing about the other player ditching. Is that how it's supposed to work?
Yes, it is. Sorry but it's impossible for the system to know if your opponent left on purpose or by accident.
If it's by accident, he gets some time to reconnect.
You could have waited 5 minutes and then you would have gotten the option to resign your opponent.
It's 2017
We shouldn't have to wait 5 minutes for someone to reconnect
Battlenet didn't even give that much time for Starcraft in the 90s
Can you please join us in the future? Make it one minute.
Quitting is when a player deliberately chooses "Quit" from the menu screen.
For the former, if it doesn't reconnect you automatically, then 5 minutes seems to be the right amount of time to have to reload the app and click through a bunch of options.
Quote from: meathead40 on 01 January 2017, 05:33:58 AMI hated MakingFun, and somehow this is 10x worse. It's unplayable.
Wow. Y'all are a tough crowd.
I hated Goko/Makingfun and am glad for this new effort from the new team. It will get better in the future. Looking forward to playing it.
Quote from: Stef on 01 January 2017, 12:12:52 AMYo dudeQuote from: macpuddock on 01 January 2017, 12:09:04 AM
Started a 2 player game and after the first turn my opponent left, saying he was just there to see what it looked like. Game was still running with only me at the table, so I resigned as I didn't see any other option. Scoreboard at the end showed simply 3 pts each and me resigning, nothing about the other player ditching. Is that how it's supposed to work?
Yes, it is. Sorry but it's impossible for the system to know if your opponent left on purpose or by accident.
If it's by accident, he gets some time to reconnect.
You could have waited 5 minutes and then you would have gotten the option to resign your opponent.
Quote from: RoyG on 01 January 2017, 04:53:07 AMExcellent observation.Quote from: Stef on 01 January 2017, 03:12:01 AM
Note that we didn't get any of the money that you paid.
I believe it is clear you are relying on the customers you inherited but who are a burden on you since you didn't get any of our money to be your Beta testers before the 'real' launch at the end of 2017. We get to work for the privilege of playing your little game.
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