Messages

It's now been a year since I left Dominion Online as a paying customer. Have you since reintegrated Pirate Ship, Venture and Goons into the Automatch feature and given them the ability to ban them individually? If so, please let me know (you know my e-mail address) and I would be happy to come back as a paying customer. However, if it remains the case that you can unilaterally change your scope of delivery at any time, it remains the case that a subscription is too unsafe for me.

@ strongpoet: see my complaining in subject "Deprecated Cards".

[Nobody is taking those cards away from you, you can play with, in your own tables, as much as you want.]

You say:

Nobody is taking those cards away from you, you can play with, in your own tables, as much as you want.

I said:

The appeal of the game is the randomness of the sets. (...) The manual selection of individual cards from the outdated pool reduces this randomness and thus the appeal. It is not the same.

You also say:

The option to ban/dislike cards is limited to a few (16)

I did not know that. In that case it would have been a customer-friendly alternative to extend this ban function to those cards Donald doesn't want to see anymore in his game, but I do in mine. You could have marked these cards visually, accomplished with a public recommendation to ban them.

You say, nobody takes us away the cards (which is only the half of the truth, see above).
But you take us away the decision wether we want to have those cards in a randomly set or only in a manually selected one.

A restrictive politics.

I prefer a customer-friendly one.

But even that is your decision.

Whatever. I give up. I couldn't convince you. It's a pity. It doesn't make Donalds game better, it limits it.
For a printed cardgame you may be right to recreate the published boxes time by time. But a digital version has much more opportunities to keep players satisfied with the stuff they like, not necessarily just Donald.

[Some players like not encountering the depreciated cards during automatch, its different for you.]

You wrote:

Some players like not encountering the depreciated cards during automatch, its different for you.

I wrote:

Each player can use the buttons to decide for himself which cards he likes and which he does not. It is not you who decides for him!

Your argument carries no weight.

So I'm afraid I can't understand your point of view. The platform already offers every player the possibility to deselect those cards they do not like. You don't have to do that for them. What right do you have to decide what I like and what I don't like? I can decide that myself, and the platform already offers me the opportunity to make my own decision.

I have never played World of Warcraft. But I'm pretty sure that it has changed over time because new things have always been added. But did the creators also take things away from their customers? Did they reduce their equipment, their credits, their abilities, their options? I don't think so. They made it more and more complicated, but they didn't limit it. You limit it. Now they have released a retro version, you say? Were the players annoyed? If they can do that, why can't you? Give me back my (already paid for) playing cards!

What do you gain by disabling arbitrary cards (that people have already paid en masse to have available in random sets)? What do you gain? You piss off a few players, okay. But what is the advantage of that? I can't see it. Maybe your server can only handle a certain number of cards. That would be a reason, but otherwise I don't see one. By the way, Dominion hasn't changed. The game itself has remained the same. You start your turn with 5 cards, play actions, money and nights, discard your cards and draw new ones. The game itself remained the same. You just add new cards and take away your paying customers' favourite cards in return. That's all. And I don't understand that.

The appeal of the game is the randomness of the sets. Because the strength of individual cards depends on this randomness. Some cards are very strong in one set, in another they don't matter. That is the genius of the game. Weighing the individual cards in a random set and combining them optimally with each other is what makes the game so appealing. But this attraction depends on the randomness of the selection. The manual selection of individual cards from the outdated pool reduces this randomness and thus the appeal. It is not the same.

As I said, I don't understand what you want to gain by arbitrarily deactivating certain cards. You say to spare many players the old playing cards. Again, the platform allows them to decide for themselves which playing cards they no longer want to see. You don't have to decide that for them. I don't understand it. 

Long story short: If I renew my subscription for another 18 months on 15 April, I will get a fixed pool of cards at that time in return, depending on whether I take silver or gold. But you reserve the right to take some of that consideration away from me over the next 18 months without paying any of the money back, right? Without notice. Without justification. Without the right to object. At best, I may demonstrate here in the forum. That is all. But it is of no use. You are the ruler. I see.

You said yourself that Online Dominion is not an independent game, it is attached to the card game. In my boxes there are still the old cards, and they are playable. New expansions are put through their paces before release so they don't clash with the old ones. I have yet to read the sentence in a rulebook, "If you play with this expansion, you may not use the Pirate Ship or Goons." As far as that goes, I guess online Dominion is independent of the card game after all, contrary to your assertion. It has its own laws. And they are quite arbitrary.

Give me back my cards. Who doesn't like them can block them individually. If the creators of World of Warcraft can do that, you can do that as well. Why not?

I wish I could get more support from your other paying customers here ...

[It is not you who decides for him!]

To make that clear:

The last time I renewed my subscription, these cards were still part of the standard collection I was paying for. Several of my top favourites (Pirate Ship, Venture, Goons) are among them. If you now reduce your service during the paid subscription period by removing cards that have already been paid for, this is in my eyes a unilateral violation of the paid agreement between provider and customer. If this practice is to be expected permanently in the future, you are not a serious provider of a paid service.

Each player can use the buttons to decide for himself which cards he likes and which he does not. It is not you who decides for him! The player is the customer.
I need a decision by 15 April whether you will at least re-integrate Pirate Ship, Venture and Goons back into the Standard Collection. I have to renew my subscription on 15 April.

Thank you, but I knew that. But I don't want to block individual places in the set with manually selected cards, I want them to be randomly part of the set from time to time.

Can someone tell me how to get deprecated cards back into the general collection to create a random set? Before I have to renew my subscription on 15 April, I want to know how to play with all the cards I pay for.

Thank you very much. That's fine

Dear Sirs,

I use to play 5 bots to make me some entertainment during the day. But from today on a new version is online, and it allows only playing 4 bots (Message: "Internal error" if you try to play 5 bots). Please could you fix that bug? Thanks.

for 24 hours I had the same problem now. Thx a lot for this working solution

Do I need to worry about my deposit? For weeks now, the server has been shutting down once a day for several hours without the version number going up even once. Is Dominion Online coming to an end?

Hi Stef

1. An offline client, allowing you to play campaigns against bots
Not an important priority on the top. But at any time nice to have in case of an internet shutdown

2. A bot with a setting for different play styles
Yes, that would be nice, because I play a lot against bots (because I'm making some breaks during my work without looking for real opponents for a quick play). Different styles would be really nice.

3. A strong bot.
Also this would be really nice, because the current bots are playing stupid (counterfeid, bandid fort, mascerade or trashing cards) I can imagine how difficult it is to create a bot-mashine that looks for the setting before starting to play, but it would be very nice.


4. Options for timed games
Good idea to avoid slow players

5. Options for undo settings
It's okay as it is

6. Online mini-tournaments; the option to easily create one for you & your friends.
That would be a nice option. Good idea.

7. Option to invite specific players to your table
No need for me

8. More translations (to what language?)
No need

9. Better animations when cards are gained/bought/played/...
No need. It's okay as it is

10. Better visualization of split piles, Archive/Crypt contents, Prince targets, ...
Nice idea, but no need for me

10. Option to hide the log
Maybe good idea for smaller screens, but no need for me

11. Android app (or just improved compatibility?)
No need for me

12. iPhone app (or just improved compatibility?)
No need for me

13. Downloadable game logs
No need for me

14. Improved moderation (dealing with chat abuse, slowplayers, ...)
Maybe an option to force a slow player myself with a time bank to start his next turn, otherwise he resign automatically

15. Tutorial on how to play Dominion
No need

16. Tutorial on how to play dominion online.
No need

Last but not least: I am very happy with the improvement of the online client the last year. Well done.
Best regards
AthosNRW