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#1
Quote from: VARMENDRION on 12 July 2018, 02:08:02 AM
If I lose, but the enemy is likely to finish the game within 1 or 2 minutes, I'll give him the satisfaction of ending the game and will just play quickly.
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If I can win quickly, I'll end as fast as possible to not make the enemy suffer through the loss. I mean those situations, where you are certain to win (let's say we had curses and another stack is bought out and I have 16 and instead of getting 2 provinces, I'll just buy out the third stack to sack the win).

You have no "enemies" in Dominion. Just friends that are your opponents.
#2
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
21 June 2018, 10:45:44 AM
I find the arguments "It's just a game something to chill people out" and "You shouldn't act this because this is as valid as real life" very contradictory.

Either it's a game, or it's a real life behaviour. It can't be both things at the same time.

Most great poker players are irritating and frustrating. It's part of the character who plays that.
There are many psychological strategy to win at poker. For instance, if you act arrogant when having an heavy hand and winning the pot, and you have nothing in hand and you still play arrogant, that will inculcate fear of losing in the opponents so they will be cautious even if you had nothing in hand.

And so on.

I'm not here insulting people. That happened once and I got banned. Fine. I've been insulted here in the forum, called an asshole and I don't see banning here. It's not me being hypocritical. I would have been if I didn't accept my ban peacefully. I did. I lost my account forever. Gone. Perfect, I cope with that. So, if the player that called me an asshole isn't banned, well that's hypocritical and that's a double standard.

I just felt that I went too far when even saying "you're lucky aren't you?" or "Do you acknowledge you have 1 tournament and 1 province over 40 cards and you got them in the same hand while I have 3/3 and still I can't pair them?" and something like that, the person I was playing with was overreacting. There, the fun of winning by using psychological strategies ends.

Other psychological issues may be I make on purpose a totally stupid move (I use this strategy playing Chess more often) so that your opponent begins to underestimate you and relaxes, then when he doesn't expect you lay a very good move one from which he cannot recover. In Dominion this works too.

If you rely only upon having the best cards combination, you play half of the game, imho.

And I honestly think that if people here seems to feel entitled to tell me what to do with my life, or judge me from above for my deeds, well, I feel just that this is odd, because you should say such unconsiderate things only about people you know very well. I'm polite. I'm explaining my reasons. If you like them that's fine because that makes two of us. If you dislike them, try to cope with, for I won't change a bit only because the random internet guy asks me for it.

EDIT:

I will add only one thing. Of course this is just my opinion and I live peacefully when meeting people who disagree with that, but I really think that if you feel the irrepressible urge to report someone just because he said you are a F.M0R0N then I am actually very very amazed. I mean, I didn't know I were in a church or something like that, I thought we were all adults and, really, imho, if you feel ABUSED because of a random guy insulting you on internet, then you have experienced NO problems in life. Probably all of your relatives are alive, you never experienced hunger, you never had to make debts to pay your bills or something like that, really. I don't expect people agreeing with me on that, and this is why I feel OK with being banned. But while I'd feel to report someone who insults women, gay people, black people, dead people, ill people or that BECAUSE of their illness/sex/etc, a random insult is nothing to me and I have been insulted many times and I never reported anyone. :)
#3
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
20 June 2018, 08:49:44 AM
Quote from: kieranmillar on 20 June 2018, 08:37:32 AM
https://medium.com/humane-tech/the-immortal-myths-about-online-abuse-a156e3370aee

QuoteOur communities are defined by the worst things that we permit to happen. What we allow tells the world who we are.

Online Dominion for some bizarre reason seems to have long been plagued by a small number of people who seem to enjoy trolling like crazy, even before this particular site. I don't get it. Anybody who sets out to make other users of the site feel bad or angry during their games by consistently trash talking strangers should be banned. It's not a "strategy", you're just trying to excuse the dopamine rush you get by being an antisocial asshole in the place where what you say has no permanent public record.

No.
It's just strategy, in fact I have apologized after winning many times if I got bad teplies in the chat window and realized that I was hurting somebody's feelings.
One time I even resigned because I felt I pushed too far.
And, since I have been banned for having used the F word, I would expect you being banned for calling me an asshole point blank without me having ever insulted you or something like that.
But I'm confident it won't happen.

Luckily enough I have been called polite by people who simply get things for what they are and don't make movies out of some sentences read on a forum.

EDIT: As for the link you posted, all that bunch of nonsense means you literally read NOTHING I've wrote because I clearly stated that I never trolled people for their gender, sexual orientation, race or something like that, which also can't be determined by a pure nickname (maybe gender, but maybe). For the rest of the link, alas, I say it's a bunch of nonsense victimism.

I must repeat myself (sigh): I only troll as a psychologic strategy to win a game. After the game is over, the trolling ends with that.
#4
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
20 June 2018, 06:54:46 AM
Quote from: Seprix on 20 June 2018, 12:23:27 AM
Man you are the worst "troll" I have ever seen, you're grasping at straws and to boot you're not funny in the slightest

I am ok with not being funny because I have never had such intent.
Au contraire I would be worried if while speaking seriously somebody picked up me as funny.

And exactly where do I grasp at straws? Tell me, I'll be glad to prove you wrong.
#5
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
19 June 2018, 10:44:35 PM
Ok, sorry I didn't know that! :)

I only plaied IRL + at a site, I don't remember the name, but it used other pictures not the original on the cards, and it had very rough graphics, plus it was completely free.

#6
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
19 June 2018, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: Donald X. on 19 June 2018, 07:46:26 PM
Quote from: DominionTroll on 19 June 2018, 07:04:47 PM
Another thing: I personally own various Dominion Expansions IRL. I find it pretty nasty to pay here for things I have already paid IRL.
You'll have to worker harder than that to troll me. Try: "you sure spend a lot of time on Dominion forums," or maybe, "did you guys actually playtest Rebuild?"

I have my Dominion Alchemy Box just here, barcode #8033772893299 and I am ready anytime to post a picture of it in the pose or with any common object on top of that to show that I really own it.

Sorry to disappoint you Donald.
#7
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
19 June 2018, 07:04:47 PM
I think slamming somebody out a tournament (usually you pay for being in) just for some annoying comments here and there is a bit fascist, but ok, that's my POV, your tournaments your rules, probably you live too far from me.

Another thing: I personally own various Dominion Expansions IRL. I find it pretty nasty to pay here for things I have already paid IRL.
#8
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
19 June 2018, 05:10:16 PM
I personally have started the troll account after complaining a lot for being insulted and seeing the players that insulted me were still playing after.

When I asked I was answered:

"Do resign. Report game #. That game won't count on ranking."

And when I said "And the abusive player?"

"We don't ban people for that, blacklist, if he does this everytime, everybody will blacklist him and he won't be able to do it again".

That is what I have been answered. For many that's enough.
I felt it wasn't enough.

So I said to myself "If I lose temper being provoked (or even insulted) is that the case that maybe I can do the same and win some games I wouldn't win anyway else?"

So I dropped my account and started a troll account.
I was HONEST, it was in the username itself. I think they will black it, but it was I_ANNOY_PEOPLE so if you read my username you can simply resign and blacklist me, because I said what I was going to do IN THE VERY BEGINNING.

That said, I think the ban helped me. A lot of people who have blackilsted "I_ANNOY_PEOPLE" haven't blacklisted me with my new account, so I can play again with them one more time. It's nice.

THe ban, to me, helped more than harmed.

Plus, IRL, there is NOTHING in tounnaments at least as much as I know that prevent people from talking during a tournament match. Only Magic the Gathering enforces strict rules on that and you can recevie a yellow card, but I believe that is unfair. My 2 cents.

As I said, I am a troll DURING the games, not outside.
Here, I am here reasoning with you for what is best for the community.
If people think that the best way is muting chats or something like that, I'll revert to my old gamestyle, knowing that if a troll wants to provoke me, I can mute him/her.

Last: I have been trolled many times even when I had the troll account and facing a 39/40 ranked player I didn't use the troll approach because I thought I was winning anyway. They started with "Lucky, huh?" and the same things I say, so I believe I am not the only one doing this, but I am the only one having the guts to admit it.
#9
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
19 June 2018, 01:13:24 PM
What does make you think that I am upset?
I am totally not, I made a new account and I am in queue while typing this message.

I just think, and believe me I do, some things, and I will make a list for shortening

1) I strongly believe that calling someone "moron" or "you have asperger disease" is something on two entirely different levels. You don't. I accept your point of view and I disagree.

2) You think my strategy is "foul". I think it's just another strategy. Everybody has his/her own. I don't find it abusive, so I am pretty surprised to be banned. Not that it changes my day, I now know that you are banned for getting on the moderator nerves, I thought it was something more strict and regulated and not depending on which mood the moderator wakes up with, or wheter he had a bad day or not, so that's ok, now I know, that's it.

3) When you think that I can make some user feeling less "safe" because I say something in chat, probably either you think I have magical powers, or you totally misjudge other people. I am not in any case able to obtain the IP or the whereabouts of anybody, so their safeness is not at risk. I am very very surprised you may think differently.

Oh, my turn, somebody is waiting for me :D
#10
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
19 June 2018, 07:51:00 AM
I strongly enforce the very fact that psychology IS a strategy to win.
So, trolling your opponent with sentences like
"Feeling lucky huh?"
or
"5/2 with no "4-costing" cards? What a lucky start"
or
"I am sorry you cannot defeat me"

and the like, break the opponent's focus on the game and give you an advantage.
I mean, I easily took care of players ranked 54+ who EFFECTIVELY had lucky starts with some simple comments put here and there. I noticed that usually when the player starts bothering replying, he felt into the trap.

99% do not read the forum, so I don't mind spoiling all here.

Muting the chat is removing a component from the game, I would have less interest playing with one of my most successful strategies blocked.

In tournaments there is nothing that denies you your speech freedom.

On the other hand, I find it funny that I have been banned from my later account, just for having lost my temper ONCE and having used the f word, while I read that there are even people making fun of handicapped people. I troll as a strategy, but I'd never insult women, black people, handicapped peole, gay, or any minority. There is still respect, even within trolling. But, as I already said, double standards here are not a novelty.
#11
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
18 June 2018, 08:43:12 PM
If I do pay you can't kick me out.
Luckily enough I never paid and I am already rocking on my new account which is perfectly identical to the previous.
#12
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
18 June 2018, 03:27:10 PM
To complete it: I didn't insult him point blank.

I was trolling him, and he was backtrolling me, because he didn't end the game when he could, just wanted to humiliate me. I can cope with that, I started the troll battle. But, if you are backtrolling, you accept insults. You don't run to the moderators like a crybaby. You are an adult, accepted to troll me and be trolled, and it ends like that.

Of course I have been banned and that player hasn't.

No problem, ranking counts 0 to me, I'll start over with a new account.
#13
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
18 June 2018, 03:12:55 PM
Plus, I have been insulted the very same way, and I met that player again.

This is called double standard.

But that's ok. Not sweat off of my back.
#14
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
18 June 2018, 03:10:22 PM
That wasn't a lot. I called a guy a fuck'n mor'n two times. Period.
Let's say the things as they are.
It would be quite more honourful.
#15
General Discussion / Re: Trolls
18 June 2018, 02:58:51 PM
I have been banned without any warning.

I can understand that saying stuff "You will lose" "You are merely lucky" or something like that isn't a strategy for you and site is yours, so one does conform to YOUR laws, of course, but still you are limiting the free expression and one valid strategy only because you cannot understand it.

That's ok.

Of course it would be easy to mute the chat, but ok, that is your site, these are your rules, and even if this is nothing democratic, that's it.

At least we know.